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Armed Citizens are a necessity for a free society. | RESOURCES NECESSARY TO ARREST ONE ARMED MAN; RESOURCES NECESSARY TO ARREST HUNDREDS OF UNARMED MEN | image tagged in 2a,armed,citizens,tyranny,second amendment | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
2,895 views 42 upvotes Made by Stavka100 6 years ago in politics
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2 ups, 6y,
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The problem with memes like these is they imply it’s all or nothing, You can have reasonable gun control without taking everyone’s arms away.
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3 ups, 6y
We don't need any more gun control. There's too much gun control already.
3 ups, 6y,
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Memes don't imply much - they are not a complete thought, I use them to bring up points and start discussions. On the rare occasion, it will be with an intelligent person like yourself.

The term "reasonable" is not actionable. The isn't an intelligent person in the world that doesn't support "reasonable" anything. I can write any law, call it "reasonable gun control" and no matter the context of that law, it will pass in California, Illinois, and DC by at least two-thirds.

I think it would be more reasonable to mimic the laws in counties with least amount of crime, instead most want to copy the laws from counties with most crime, they call those laws "reasonable", and objections to them unreasonable.
1 up, 6y,
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There is such a thing as reasonable gun control. You’re right just because it’s called reasonable doesn’t mean it is. And you can’t cite problem places and cities who’ve tried to implement gun control because it’s a national problem. Guns which can’t as easily be accessed within certain cities can just be obtained elsewhere. But if your interested I could list a half dozen things that would drastically reduce gun related deaths if instituted on the national level. It should however be noted we don’t simply have a gun control problem but also a drug problem which is related back to the fact we also have a money problem.
1 up, 6y,
1 reply
Of course I can site places. For instance they blame gun problems in Chicago on lax laws in Indiana. However they haven't been able to trace a single confiscated firearm to a legal purchase in Indiana (or a legal purchase anywhere in US for that matter).

I don't know how people can have complete understanding of criminals being able to buy and sell narcotics that have been illegal for almost a century, but somehow they'll pass "reasonable" gun control and all of a sudden criminals will be left without tools of the trade.
1 up, 6y,
1 reply
Again proper gun laws have to be national not simply delegated to cities for them to be effective. I don’t know where every illegal gun in Chicago came from, but I do know less of them would make a huge difference. Among other things I believe in a buy back program. Basically the more guns out there the more gun related deaths there will be.
3 ups, 6y,
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Buy back programs have never worked. Not even once. It has no mechanism for working.

More guns in the hands of citizens have actually reduced violent crime, this is consistent and explains why we have pockets of crime where citizens are disarmed. Show me safest cities in the US and I will show you a high level of firearm ownership.
1 up, 6y,
1 reply
You got to ask yourself, who would most likely be selling their guns back.
1 up, 6y,
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I don't have to ask myself that. There is quantitative data, I've seen officer reports on this. Majority of people turning in their guns are widows and the elderly. In cases where the buybacks were very generous, a number of FFLs simply "sold" the all their inventory that was below the offer price. Who never turns in their guns, are thugs, drug dealers, and felons.
1 up, 6y,
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I don’t know a jonsing drug addict would love the cash. Besides again we’d have to see a massive nation wide buy back to truly see the results
1 up, 6y,
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That has no way of happening, which is why in hundreds of buybacks it HASN'T happened. Considering that most buy backs are for Target and similar gift cards instead of cash, those don't work. Those that are for cash pay a lot less than street value.

Also, who are these junkies that have guns? It is either their tool for crime, and that would be the last thing they would give up, or it is stolen, in which case they are most likely selling it to the same sources where they sell all their stolen goods.

I bet you work for the government. Only a government worker could see something fail time and time again and claim that it will work if the same failure was done on a larger scale.
1 up, 6y
You claim to understand this subject accurately yet your discernment of who you are corresponding is way off. I do not work for the government in any way shape or form. It is the government for the most part that is corrupted, corrupted by large monetary interests, including but not limited to the gun lobby.
1 up, 6y,
1 reply
I think the second guy would need a machine gun, as 100 men could rush him and beat him to a pulp.

The top picture is a sad indictment of violent American society.
2 ups, 6y
Don't say what the second guy needs, the numbers are factual, not theoretical. Millions of Soviets were arrested by a small NKVD force without a single shot being fired.
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1 up, 6y,
1 reply
Agreed, although the bottom would probably say 6 instead of hundreds lol
2 ups, 6y,
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Not at all BillyV, because it says "arrest" and not kill. Millions of Soviets were gathered by the NKVD without a single shot fired.
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1 up, 6y
Fair point, but it also says "men". Those don't sound like real men to me hahah
0 ups, 6y
We need more than just an armed citizenry, we need privatized militias to replace the army
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