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That flag you used, that liberals keep mistakenly using, is not a confederate or national flag, it's the battle flag (aka a battle standard) of Tennessee.

Also, those flags were created by, and only flown in /official/ capacity by, democrats. Calling them republican flags is just another example of re-writing history.

The connotation of the battle flag is clear.

We can revive the whole "Democrats used to be the racist party" schtick that people love to throw around, but it's inconsequential to the point I'm making here; let's not even go down that road. Save it for another time when it's relevant.

Very sorry I was unclear; please allow me to explain.

If the point of the initial post is that Democrats make villains into heroes, then we should probably mention that it's Republicans (and only Republicans) who are fighting for Confederate statues to remain standing as monuments to Southern heroes. They're not heroes. They were traitors, insurgents, terrorists.

And that's not counting those executed by firing squads in the regime he helped establish. Yet leftist proudly wave his image and wear his shirts at their "protests".

As for the civil war, whether or not it was treason is arguable. Those state seceding from the Union inherently meant the citizens of those states were no longer US citizens, and thus it couldn't be treason.

The Union never even tried Jefferson Davis, the Confederate president, for treason because the Union wasn't even completely sure their war effort was legal. They weren't 100% certain they could convict him, and if he was acquitted, that would publicly declare that secession was legal, and would mean the Union had broken the law. Then it would basically change the war from a civil war to a war of conquest, and the southern states would just end up seceding fully legally.

That's the main reason those statues were put up, because they were heroes to the Confederate states, who gave their lives patriotically, even when some of them didn't fully believe in the cause those states were fighting for. They weren't fighting to keep slaves, they were just (in their minds) fighting to remain free, and they didn't feel they were citizens of the US any longer.

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how can you say hey weren't fighting for slavery when the confederate government was very upfront with it's number one goal was slavery for ever

Slavery for ever? Even at the time of the civil war slavery was becoming a dated institution that would not have lasted. The invention of the cotton gin and other industrial farm machinery actually made the old slave plantations economically unfeasible in the long run. The confederacy's goal was to not have people who lived in another part of the country past laws ruling over them. Slavery happened to be the trigger because of the nationwide debate over abolition.

The civil war was about states' rights... one of which just so happened to be the right to keep slaves. The US reneged on it's agreement that the states had a right to govern themselves, and started to infringe upon that right.

Yes, a lot of slave owners were unhappy about that, but misguided as it was, it was more a matter of "if they take this right away, what rights will they take away next?". (A problem the US is currently facing again, only this time the rights being threatened are free speech and the right to bear arms.) That's why many of those confederate soldiers actually fought. You don't think most of those soldiers were even remotely wealthy enough to own slaves, do you? The vast majority of them had no dog in that particular fight.

Hell, even the North didn't really care much about slavery until a little later in the war, when Lincoln decided to make it part of his platform in order to hurt the South. And Lincoln himself was a racist, though he didn't like slavery, he just thought black people were inferior and should be sent back to Africa, or at least that whites and blacks should be kept separated.