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Liberal Logical | IF I AGREE, IT'S "FREE SPEECH" IF I DISAGREE, IT'S "HATE SPEECH" | image tagged in memes,college liberal,liberal logic | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Works for both sides.
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I see some conservatives do the same thing, though. If they find it offensive, they say it isn't protected by the First Amendment.
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Yeah, I've taken a long break. Free speech is the best speech.
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Really. I've heard various versions of "you're dumb, just shut up" or "you shouldn't speak" but never an outright "it's not protected by the constitution"
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I hear this crazy far left talk more than once a week. Their standard line is "hate speech is not free speech," and they consider most things they disagree with "hate speech."
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I hear crazy far right talk pretty much every single day (I listen to AFR daily). People on the far right are pretty much a mirror image of people on the far left. If it offends them, they try to silence you. Look at the group One Million Moms, which actively tries to get "indecent" TV shows taken off the air because it offends their delicate conservative sensibilities.
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I've heard conservative commentator Bryan Fischer (he's pretty far right, mind you) say that things like profanity and blasphemy aren't protected under the First Amendment. When he says blasphemy, of course he only means blasphemy against the Christian god, because he says things on a regular basis that Muslims would consider blasphemous.
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Actually, Bryan Fischer takes it a step further. He has said on numerous occasions that the First Amendment *only* protects political speech, and *only* when it's verbally spoken out of the mouth. He doesn't believe that any non-spoken speech (like signs, artwork, other forms of written expression) is protected.
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Wow! That's bad. Well obviously I don't listen to his show, but that is not a common conservative position, especially since what is profane and blasphemous varies from person to person, and speech clearly included at least the written word from the very beginning.
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I agree that his position is out of the mainstream, even for conservatives, but the problem is that people listen to him and believe what he says, even when he's completely and utterly wrong.
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But I think the point of the meme is that "certain speech is not protected" is a MAINSTREAM liberal (or rather left) position. And that they often define "hate speech" as loosely as others would define profanity or blasphemy.
For example, objecting to the removal of a statue that could be considered to have historical significance is "hate speech".
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I agree that some (even many) people define hate speech far too broadly, but I don't believe that those people represent the mainstream left. Just like people on the far right don't represent the mainstream right.
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My Facebook feed would indicate otherwise, that that is a mainstream position on the left. And keep in mind I'm a conservative, and you Facebook feed is influenced by who you have as friends, so you wouldn't expect mine to skew left. (And these aren't posts criticizing that point of view, I'm talking about earnest posts from my friends and colleagues on the left).
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Getting political views and anecdotal evidence from Facebook is the first thing I'd take issue with here. I won't even use Facebook because of how terrible people's slants can be, and how they begin to take political views personally, which wasn't even a thing until the advent of social media. Echo chambers do not produce earnest views.
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And if they can't, civil war.
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No, it's only hate speech when it is about hate. It has nothing to do with if we agree to it our not. I don't agree with you, but that doesn't make you a Nazi.
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When trump blasts out all of his stupid ideas in his native language, twitter, we don't make a yuge ruckus about what he says. It may be wrong and we may not agree with it, but it isn't hate speech.
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Calling refugees from a country in South America that Reagan effed up, 'rapists' is just one of many examples of hate speech ---"Punch him in the face I will pay your legal bills".... donny is king of hate
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Put this what usually happens i.imgflip.com/29fgtv.jpg (click to show)
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The truth ? Hate.
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cool, up vote
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Now that is hate speech.
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This is the most accurate one ever done on this template.
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I KNOW!!!
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And if I agree. we will spawn another devil like me
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The sad thing is that people think the Liberals and Conservative on TV speak for every Liberal and Conservative.
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Who is talking about Trump. I never voted for him. Your comment is a non sequitur. Also, you call for violence against an individual, which is an actual use of real hate speech. Thank you for proving my point.
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I disagree with people here, but I never call for violence. That's messed up.
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Excellent, up vote
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Wow, that Love Trumps Hate thing really is a crock isn't it??
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And with your name on it, I'd uess.
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