The button is clearly labled "create" not copy and paste.

Its not so much whether or not the idea has been had before, that will happen. The issue is when you do an image search and do nothing more than download an image and then upload it here. It's a waste of time and for what? Imgflip points???? That's what facebook is for. I would love to see all my memes copied to facebook.
You don't have to create every part of the meme to have created something. Henry Ford didn't create the wheel, seats or even the gas engine. He did however create something new with the components. Do I soapbox much? Yes, I guess I do :)

Agreed. I think Facebook is for reposting and imgflip should be for creating or being creative.

It comes down to what site do you want to post your original content on. Should we have it do good at other places first and maybe they will repost it here later and we can know we made it??

That would be sad.

Unfortunately it's been sad for me around here for a while lol. The last meme I posted on here I put on reddit first, it's really just a template but still it's my most recent example. Last I checked it had 220 votes with a 98% upvote ratio meaning hardly any downvotes. On here I think it has 7 votes maybe 100 views. I've been asking myself for a while which audience deserves to see it first? I've grown to have accounts in many places but I always posted stuff either not meant for this audience or after I let this audience be the first to view it. Unfortunately that loyalty has never really gone both ways for me. I've never had anything and everything I make do good here. Unlike the fella's above me on the all time leader board I've never been popular enough to not have many many memes go virtually unnoticed. I always told myself it would suck to have everything you make do good because then it would be hard to improve or look for new avenues, the challenge would definitely be taken down some notches.

Honestly I'm sure some of that was jealousy, who doesn't want everything they do to be loved, I've never been opposed to admitting I am far from perfect. I'm sure I have a reposted gif or two among my thousands of original creations so f**king what? With gifs I always assumed everybody knew they are 90% reposted which is why they only recently started doing so well around here, at least to me it's recent for some I know it must have always seemed this way.

The point I'm getting to is that the core audience of imgflip has changed, when I started you never saw anything with a grammar or spelling error do well here. Now it doesn't matter if they misspell something they are reposting, and the right person can post anything and have it do well and it's really got nothing to do with the meme anymore.

If you comment a lot and have some memes do good you get a little attention, if you can manipulate the points or people to give you points long enough to make the 7 day board you can begin a trend now. People noticing your success wish to capitalize on it themselves. They want to comment on your stuff first because they know you are popular and that their comment stands a good chance of getting points on your meme. Suddenly everything you make is doing good not because you made something good or not, but because everybody rushing to get their piece of the action and comment give it views and upvotes. tbc...

This cycle will continue regardless of original content or even entertaining content as long as the majority of people voting on things aren't really voting on the meme at all. So I found myself wondering why bother posting my best work here or first at all? Even if something I make sucks I get people telling me it sucks in great detail at other places. Something that in the process of us wanting to create a positive environment with which to create in, we also created an environment where criticism is called trolling. Some of the most valuable things like gemstones were created under pressure over extended periods of time. Man has learned how to fake these conditions or just fake the end product and these things are excepted by society, yet they are always labeled differently than the real thing so the consumer knows they aren't buying the original but a copy or even fake product instead. It's why some men will even lie to somebody they love about how a stone was created instead of admitting they couldn't get the real thing.

To me somebody pretending they made a repost is like somebody trying to sell me a piece of glass that looks just like a diamond I've seen already for the same price as the real one. They aren't saying buy this piece of glass that looks like a diamond, they want me to believe that piece of glass is not only worth the same as a diamond but that they dug it from the earth themselves as well.

I guess in the end it all boils down to honestly and who wants it. I want to post my creations somewhere that I receive an honest opinion about their worth. I honestly have real original content and around here I believe most people trust me about that. That's obviously not what people are looking for to upvote or comment on anymore around here though. Luckily for me instead of thinking I should change to suit this new audience, I've seen the bigger picture and know about bigger audiences who do value the same things I do and that failing here no longer means that I or my creations have failed at being liked for who or what they are. Creating memes isn't easy and it can be hard for a whole community of people to be good at it like we used to have here. Somehow we allowed people who couldn't create the memes to create a community where what they created wasn't the point anymore. Where opinions on things other than memes matter and criticism of a meme is now an attack on a person who is just "trying to have fun...."

Fortunately I can choose from a huge variety of audiences and no longer let imgflip be the sole opinion on my work that matters to me. Because if I did based on the way my more recent memes have done I would feel like my creations weren't as good as some of the crap people upvote around here now. I would think my template with 7 upvotes here must not have been made that well or something if I didn't know how well it did in other places. In the end it isn't me that these voting decisions are hurting it's the site. I learned most of what I know about all of this on imgflip and I hate to see it change into a place where that won't happen to the next person like me that finds it. I have to keep learning and growing for my enjoyment of this art form. I need challenges with honest results so I can continue to grow because the second I start standing still I get bored.

As long as imgflip chooses to stand still I can't choose to make imgflip the place my creations start out at. I'll still post things here for the like 8 loyal fans and others that are my friends to see. I just don't want the imgflip tag on the bottom of all my work I post elsewhere anymore because the site no longer represents the way I feel about memes. I used to want to spread the word everywhere about imgflip so the world could see what we created here. While I still believe that imgflip helped create some very talented meme makers most of whom have left by now. The main reason being they wanted a site based on their creations like it used to be. Now it creates false pride for those unwilling to work at what they create. It creates people praising things they don't even care about out of selfishness that by doing so they can create praise about their own creation they put no care into creating.

Instead of a brilliant community bouncing ideas between themselves in a way that was so much fun nobody at the time did it with points being part of their motivation. I see a community bouncing points off of each other under the guise of "having fun" who would rather downvote something than have it do better than them.

It makes me sad that being honest means putting down a site I gained so much from. The people make the site though and the people I learned from are mostly gone. Imgflip has one original thing going on that I have not seen anywhere else though. It is the only meme site where the users can become popular on without making memes. Sadly I have to follow a path of different creations..

I get what you are saying. So much is being missed out on. Even comments are reposts by so many. Premade memes that are used over and over instead of making a specific comment on a meme that was enjoyed. Many don't do this and quite a few kept me busy this past week, which gives me hope. You and I have seen the point stalkers come and go through the year once they finally realize it means nothing. It's the views I count.

When you left for a while it impacted me because your creativity inspired my own and I learned from it as well. You are the one responsible to teaching me about transferable backgrounds after all and look what that turned into lol.

The addiction here for me has always been simply joking around with my friends while creating memes that could bring smiles to the faces of many. I've lost a lot of those friends and not that many who have replaced their spot in popularity replaced the fun and inspiration to create as well.

I watched as even the page 9 parties which were supposed to be about new users became just a time and place for people to meet and upvote each others comments. People were even trying to time their memes so they would come out on page 9 at the right time! Then I've watched as the idea of a meme topic day or weekend turned into week long affairs where we promote the user or users who came up with one idea for a week and then everybody with an original idea would get buried under a thousand memes all about one thing.

Then the alts started popping up everywhere forcing even more unworthy memes to the top and the original stuff even further from view. Until now the few people left who haven't bailed after all that are looked at by the majority as out to ruin everybody's damn fun lmao! Assimilate or your memes will never do good here is the message I see.

It just isn't fun for me here like it used to be, I was bored with making memes completely before I started looking at other sites a few months ago. I doubt I will find anything like this place was when I started, but I'd rather be unknown and have a meme do good there. Than bust my butt commenting and kissing ass knowing that if I do my memes will do good I'll just never know for sure if the meme itself is the reason...

Yeah, my stepping away was needed to get some things in my life functioning again. I missed the outlet and the connection though. One of the first things I did after buying this laptop was to login here.

One thing that stands out in my memory is something Invicta said to me long ago. I was new still and unsure if my commenting so often was annoying people lol. Invicta thanked me for my comments and said a comment from me made his memes worth more because they were funny and creative.

Here I was thinking I wasn't worthy of the type of praise you guys received back then. And one of the top people who was always on the front page not only liked my stuff, they shared credit with me for how well their own stuff was doing which I still believe was not the case. Still my confidence grew and with it my ability to become better at this.

I wanted my comments to actually help the meme I put them on. I only commented on memes I liked and hoped that my comment was funny enough to draw more attention to it. That I could repay the laughter they gave me with creating laughter of my own. Never did I think oh I hope this comment gets me some points. To me being excepted as one of the group when the group was so damn funny meant more than anything.

I think I was the first to get a ton of points for commenting a lot and now I regret giving that advice to new people who asked how to do good on here. Or I guess not being more specific about it, I told people to comment a lot, I never told them what to me was obvious. Those comments should be funny and have at least something to do with the meme they are on.

I guess my main malfunction is that my motivation has been about laughs. So I assumed when people asked how to get noticed they also had the same motivation. To me commenting was fun and doing it a lot just meant more fun. Somehow I was getting a lot of points fast so I figured having fun commenting was the best way to get points as well. Somehow that has turned into a competition not about laughs but about points. Into the same comment being spammed all over and the death of comment chains being what people considered the best part of the front page memes. Now I can think up the funniest comment and photoshop a pic for it, and not even get a reply to it no matter how many upvotes it gets. I miss those replies, I wish my favorite part of this place hadn't died, I wish I just told people to be funny when they asked how to have the success I had so early on in the beginning.

My boss ruined a lot of the illusions I had still floating around my head from back then. He didn't see the place I described to him when he first checked this site out so he made me see what he

And can't argue with any of that except the part where you take blame for other user's actions. That's on them.

I get that, guess I just wish I had known how special what we had was back then. That I could have used what influence I had when I had some to make others appreciate it as well.

As gifted with words as I may be compared to some, as capable as I am at creating analogies to explain my thoughts in a way most can understand. I have not the ability to express the amount of fun it was to be involved in that chaos of creativity. Very few things I have been involved with in my life were capable of producing that amount of greatness in a way that felt so effortless to those that were involved in it...

Made me see what he saw in a very douchey way but still he shattered those illusions. I don't possess that ability like he does and I don't think I want to shatter that illusion if anybody else out there is still clinging to it. I thought I could try with this repost stuff but it's pointless when the top meme on the site is a repost more often than not.

If people are having fun posting for points like I did posting for laughs then a big part of me says let them. If they aren't having fun and it feels like work to log on here and repost something then comment the same thing over and over like a factory worker meeting their quota then they don't know how to have fun anyway and why should I let that affect my fun in turn.

I've lost my faith in finding that fun here again brotha. Obviously I feel passionate about it, I write all this hoping to find a way to revive it, to try and explain to everybody what is missing and how great it would be to find it. I just don't think they care. In fact I believe it has turned some against me for saying it.

I'm still searching for that feeling and that's why I have tried so many new things recently. The photoshop contests being the main thing I enjoy anymore because all of the content is original it is impossible to fake it.

I log in here for you and a select group of others whose memes I enjoy and who I believe are like minded with me about the joy of creating laughter in others. Maybe I will find my way back to imgflip someday, right now it just seems like a cheap imitation of a place I once thought of as home...

I'm doing this one time, and then I'll shut up about it. I'll still do what I do and hope people get the chance to see and enjoy it. As I said before, to me it's about the views, not the points.

All of us that were involved back then have said the points don't matter. Nobody ever believed us though, they thought we made thousands of these things for points on a board.

I think Raydog got the last word in on everybody that accused him of motives beyond having fun. He walked away from an account that made front page with every submission, because the fun wasn't there for him anymore.

If somebody is here to make points or they think more points equals more fun they are wrong. That might work for them for a while, but if you aren't making these to get laughs and share laughs with people you are missing the point for the points.

Without the laughter all this would be is a job we don't get paid for. Eventually the most hardcore fan of getting points will see it as a job. Instead of happiness when they log on they will feel burdened with all they have to day to stay on top of the 7 day board. It takes a lot of work to comment that much and keep up with everybody else enough that they feel obligated to upvote everything you make. Unless like when I first realized it they are commenting that much because they enjoy it and the points just happen to come along with that. I feel sorry for them because I would hate to spend that much time doing something I don't enjoy just to get points on any site. I have a job already the only person who truly needs to enjoy my hobbies is me...

I guess I’m a jester a heart - not serious enough on points, leaderboard, etc but like a jester, able to tell the King what no one else can without losing a head. I was the kid who drew my own memes on the chalkboard before class while people waited to see what would appear today. So much easier now! Even my political stuff is spoofy & I enjoy reminding hard core critics of this while debating topics. I laugh at my own memes. The tide pods still crack me up everytime someone posts them. Most of my posts get less than 100 views. But for some twisted people, it might have given smirk in their day. Or a sigh of discontent if of another political view. Its a free creative process in a world that offers little of such for allits hype about its value. For that opportunity, I’m thankful. And for all who meme, I do appreciate you.

"I'm sure I have a reposted gif or two among my thousands of original creations so f**king what? With gifs I always assumed everybody knew they are 90% reposted"
LOL!

Personally I don't care if people repost, and I don't care what people think if I do. I'm here to have fun.

I've seen some users talk the sqauwk about reposts, yet if you look on their profile, they have submitted gifs that they didn't create. Seems a bit hypocritical to me.

Also I know of three users on imgflip that are about as original content as they come, but they get treated like pariahs by most, because their "message" is not "popular".

I think the mod(s) used to frequently pull reposts off the front page with "." or other minor captions set to zero font size. I personally am much happier that lately they are focusing on site improvements instead. I count 60+ site improvements/code changes since late last year.

I will agree when it comes to the gifs, you pretty much have to know what you're doing to edit those and change them to something more original, beyond captioning. I will admit to having posted I think 3 that I didn't make myself, and kind of wish I hadn't. I think adding the gifs (and I thought this when they did it) was a departure from creativity although there were some at least trying to make original gifs. As for what is or isn't appreciated, well that is a part of knowing your audience right? That's also what makes it special when something you worked on gets the votes. lastly I'm not asking the mods to do anything about this, its up to the community what it wants. I respect your opinion on reposts even though I don't agree, and you are right that in the end it is about having fun.

Thanks. With regards to asking the mod(s) what I want imgflip to be, that is exactly what I do using imgflip.com/feedback I don't always hear back, but I have a few times. I'm pretty sure they are interested in hearing constructive suggestions that enhance user creativity. I have to say one of the highlights of my time here was a "thanks for..." from the site owner.

They have for sure made some good changes. If you talked the into it, thanks! I'm glad to hear you heard back from them, I have seen very little interaction on their part.

They are listening and interested.
One correction, I checked my email. What the owner said to me was "Happy to hear your thoughts on..."

Forgive me if I am misinterpreting your words. I just wanted to clarify what you are saying is what I am hearing. Basically to you the improvements the site has made so that people have more ways to be creative on it. Makes you happier than if the site had less ways to be creative and yet the majority of the memes created on it where actually created on it?

So to you what matters is that the options for creativity be more plentiful than on other sites. You do not however feel that actually having created the meme on this site first or at all to matter?

All I can figure from that is you wish to talk about memes on the site that is the best for making them but where a copy from another site will probably do better than one actually made on it. I know to you creating memes isn't your main reason for being here. The amount of creations you have compared to amount of time on here says that I don't have to but will just for reasons of clarity.

I don't think you are stupid for your opinion, in fact I respect you as an intelligent person. I just don't believe your reasons for being here are the same as somebody who enjoys creating something new or better than what went before it. Honestly I don't know what it is you like about this site. I only see you comment in the middle of some drama so maybe that is what you like creating? Isn't really for me to say why you are here or care for that matter. I just find it odd how many people seem to be here for reasons other than creating memes to share along with creating comments and ideas based on what another just created.

Very complicated views you have and they are yours I don't want to change your opinion just understand it. I can't understand being happy about how imgflip has increased the way users can create something new. Then not care if the memes they see on that site are even created by the people on it or posting it for that matter... I guess imgflip did add that cropping option so that when loading a repost you can crop off the other sites tag now. Is that what you mean by your comment? That it makes you happy imgflip has made it easier to appear like an idea was yours?

Sorry if you misunderstood what I said.
I said I'm here to have fun. I'll add that part of that is the laughs.

I said I don't care what people think if I repost. I'll add that's not very often I do that, mostly when I sponsor a "stolen memes week" or "stolen gifs week" event. Raydog and DashHopes, Socrates and alot of other users participated in those theme week events. I'm cool with that, and it's not against the Terms of Use here imgflip.com/terms

"I know to you creating memes isn't your main reason for being here."

Seriously??? You know??? Please tell me why I'm here.

"I only see you comment in the middle of some drama so maybe that is what you like creating?"

What exactly are you talking about?

"That it makes you happy imgflip has made it easier to appear like an idea was yours?"

I'm happy the owner of imgflip is putting time in to improve functions of the site. I've sent some suggestions in on what improvements I want to see using the feedback form, maybe you should do that too.

So far all I know about you is that you have stood up for somebody that admitted they used alts to upvote themselves past other memes. And now you want to stand up for people who wish to take credit for the work of others. An occasional repost is no big deal especially if the person is honest when somebody tells them nice work or something and they say right off they didn't make it. I find it hard to believe that anybody would be cool with somebody reposting one of their memes on say reddit and have it go viral only to claim the credit for it as well.

I just don't get how you can have an account that is the oldest one I know of and have so few submissions in all that time. How repsosts don't bother you when you have put the time in to have seen most of them multiple times I will never understand. I have never liked them but only voiced my opinion after realizing how little respect this site is given by the site ranked first on the entire internet for memes. I'd like it's reputation to improve and for it to become known as the best meme site out there. Right now it failed to even make the top 30 list for best meme sites which makes me sad. I have to upload stuff separately and remove the imgflip watermark if I post something I made here anywhere else or have it hurt how well that meme will do. I've even had mods ask me not to link memes here to use imgur instead which stunned me the first time it happened.

Do you have any idea how much it sucked to find out the site I loved is thought of as a joke by the majority of the internet? So yeah I thought if I warned people about stuff like reposts then others might not have to go through the same experience I did. Even though I've had more success on bigger sites I believed that was because of imgflip not despite it. This site doesn't give a shit if I post here or not, so I am not sure why I still care about what else is posted here. I joined a site for photoshop contests that is listed in the top 15 of the funniest sites on the internet. They have shown me they appreciate my original content by giving me a free month of paid membership privileges both months I have been a member there now. That site has shown more loyalty to me already than this one has in years.

So you win man, this site can keep it's title for the most reposts. I'm done hoping I can improve something for people who don't care what crap they upvote so long as they might get some points out of it. There are around 30,000 to 40,000 viewers

I upvoted your reply even though I don't agree with a lot of it.

"So far all I know about you is that you have stood up for somebody that admitted they used alts to upvote themselves past other memes."

I thought we've been commenting back and forth since 2016. I have my notifications archived and searchable at home, I'll look into that.

I remember defending isayisay and supersayinblueyasir against the accusations they were using alts to upvote themselves. Are those the users you are talking about? Where did either isayisay or ssby admit that they use alts to upvote themselves? I remember hearing accusations from gutless alt trolls that were too lame to use their real account, but never I never heard any proof. Anyways, why are you even bringing that up again, I thought we had a private channel where you said in 2017 you were done talking about it, maybe start that up again there?

"And now you want to stand up for people who wish to take credit for the work of others." Where did I say that exactly that it's ok to take credit for the work of others? When I've reposted something from imgflip, I usually include a link to what I think is an earlier version.

"I find it hard to believe that anybody would be cool with somebody reposting one of their memes on say reddit and have it go viral only to claim the credit for it as well.". Believe that I am cool with anyone copying any of my original imgflip creations on Reddit and have it go viral. Have at it. They're memes, nothing more. I don't copywrite them.

"I just don't get how you can have an account that is the oldest one I know of and have so few submissions in all that time. " I checked that out bro. I've been here about 19 months and average about 2 submissions a day in that time. There are times I've taken a break from imgflip and times I've taken a break from submitting stuff. You and reallyitsjohn have too? I remember when you took a long break I suggested to GOC that he ask goober77 if you were ok and pass along that we were thinking of you. Ask GOC about that if you have his cell number. I do. Do I need to explain my imgflip breaks to you bro?

"So you win man, this site can keep it's title for the most reposts. I'm done hoping I can improve something for people who don't care what crap they upvote so long as they might get some points out of it."

I'm not here to "win" I'm here to have fun. Yes you can haz images. Yes you can empower creativity. Yes you can improve something bro

No I don't want to bring up the alt user again, they are the same person he has admitted to me I thought everybody knew that now my bad. Maybe I am mistaken and it's not something personal you have against me that makes you only pop up in my line of site when I say something you disagree with. I know now for a fact who the main person behind dontbedouchey and publicenema was/is and I regret that my boss knows me well enough to play me like he did on here. He did prove a lot of things to me by doing so but I don't think he ever had the intention of doing it out of any concern for this site or it's users. It bothers him that I have switched from just writing all the time to making memes and photoshopping stuff but he doesn't get to tell me how to express myself creatively unless he is paying me to do so.

I have taken breaks for a few weeks before, maybe you are more active than I think in area's I am not aware of. It really doesn't matter and no I don't wish for any further explanation.

I guess some people don't care if they are plagiarized or if others make a habit out of doing so and some do. While it may not be in the terms anymore it is what the first and longest paragraph is about in the submission guidelines that pop up anytime anybody clicks to submit something. I basically agree with everything that paragraph says I just wish it was enforced if even only rarely.

I am also here for fun, which is lessened when I see good memes passed over for reposts. Why would a new person starting out bother trying to create something when reposts not only do well they are supported by other users. You are right this site could close down due to lack of funds. That's one of the main reasons I have said what I have recently. A site full of stuff that's already on other sites isn't going to grow with new users or viewers. Things have been stagnant here for a long time now and if nothing changes it will only get worse.

That's not my problem though, how well this site does is no longer something that I believe affects my ability to share my creations successfully anymore. If imgflip was deleted tomorrow the only thing I would worry about it is if my friends would still be able to contact me. I have everything backed up on a thumb drive it is simply easier to log on here than plug it in when I want to find something. I know I am most likely coming off as somebody who hates this place but that is not the case. I am just disappointed that it is thought of the way it is

"So far all I know about you is that you have stood up for somebody that admitted they used alts to upvote themselves past other memes."

Sorry I didn't ring a bell with you. I said I would look it up. Here's a refresher.

imgflip.com/i/1bz6j0 .
imgflip.com/i/1fr2s9 .
imgflip.com/i/1ftsnd .
imgflip.com/i/1hjv8o .
imgflip.com/i/28edq3 .
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imgflip.com/i/1psk4f .
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imgflip.com/i/1r0rbo .
imgflip.com/i/1r0xh0 .
imgflip.com/i/1r0fm8 .
imgflip.com/i/1s10pa .
imgflip.com/i/1sj25t .

"Maybe I am mistaken and it's not something personal you have against me that makes you only pop up in my line of site when I say something you disagree with."

Yes, you are mistaken. I have rarely disagreed with you, just twice I think. Sorry about that. I guess in your mind disagreeing with you twice is possibly making it personal against you.

"It really doesn't matter and no I don't wish for any further explanation."

That's great, Jying.

Thank you, I appreciate your perspective and standards on Original Content.

I just don't think the way we talk to each other works very well or something. Most likely it's just me I haven't felt very friendly recently especially on this site for some reason. I'm sure you copy pasted all those links to make a point I just don't have the desire to see what it is at the moment.

If I have been reading your intentions wrong then I apologize. I think tonight is going to be one of the rare ones that I allow myself to dig up the bottle of pain meds I try to ignore most days. Sometimes the only strength a person can show is to allow themselves a moment of weakness.

Apology accepted. My point with the links was to remind you that the majority of our interactions have been what I view as fun, funny and positive.

It seemed to me that what you were saying was all you knew about me was that I stood up for isayisay in 2017. A human at the other end of an internet connection, who was conducting themselves as they saw fit, and from what I saw, was conducting themselves within the terms of service.

I apologize for not joining up with the dontbedouchey cause, I don't have the stomach for it.

For other users that come along and read my comment directly above and don't know what the "dontbedouchey cause" was, dontbedouchey was a user that harassed isayisay on some of his December 2017 creations.

I understand how an alt account could add points but I do not see the creative aspect in it or the fun. I’d rather browse through the net for a pic that can become a meme. I look for pics on themes I wish to develop. After a year I found myself looking at any pic anywhere and thinking whether it is meme worthy. And occasionally, maybe 3 times, a meme made the front page. Oddly they were not the my favorite ones, but I am a sick puppy, so my humor is not universal. I hope Allen this thread can just enjoy creating & posting and tune the rest out.

I always enjoy your stuff but I'm sarcastic as well and it takes one to get one sometimes especially in writing. I know a couple people that have multiple accounts and it doesn't bother me at all because they are creative and even if they do upvote themselves it's not like one or two upvotes is going to make a difference in the long run. It's people with 30 accounts they use to make everything they do hit the front page that honestly disgust me.

I've been unhappy with this place since Ray left and I don't get to meme a bit with him early almost every morning anymore. He has been a good friend to me almost since the day I met him on here and unfortunately he is just one of many that have left. I almost left myself until I had a good comment thread with a Damon knife and remembered there can still be fun found here with creative people I am just starting to get to know.

A lot of stuff seems to have all piled up on me at once about this site and how my memes that get pretty much ignored here will do great on other sites where nobody knows who I am and I'm judged solely for the content I produce.

I would simply enjoy being able to find the good original content on here without having to scroll through all the reposts or just plain shit posts that somehow always float towards the top around here now.

I'm getting over it though, I've never been one to dwell on the negative parts of anything I've just been bombarded with it recently and have yet to break the surface long enough to catch my breath. There are still good people here and I'll just have to focus on them and their work instead of even looking at the hot pages anymore.

I've got my fingers in too many pies now to spend all my time commenting on stuff here hoping to get the attention of the people who only notice memes with points on them already. I've played that game one too many times and I can have stuff do good on other sites that upvote based on content alone.

Anyway I'm pretty damned buzzed and my pillow is calling me. Have a good night bud :)

that visit this site regularly and that hasn't grown since the first day I started here and probably never will. I still have great friends here but the majority of them moved on long before I finally got a clue. While I will always be grateful I found this site when I did and the people who taught me most of what I know hadn't left yet when I did. I have stopped giving the site credit those people deserve because honestly this site does nothing for it's users while they make money off of our memes. They don't even have a forum or help page for new users, I've informed countless people over my time here about the basics of how things work but I'm tired of it all now. My time is appreciated more elsewhere and all I have to do is make original content to receive that appreciation.

Honestly I'd delete my account if not for a few people who still come here and the fact I don't want to lose a lot of the stuff I've made that is saved on here.

I hope you don't delete your account, but the choice is yours. I used to get verclempt when users deleted thier account and I would make tribute memes for the users that I liked who did. I think I stopped doing that after I read forceful's goodbye.

You never know if and when imgflip may close up and shutdown, I don't think the owner makes a lot of money on imgflip and a negative cash flow could be the kiss of death for our happy home here. clinkster has a meme backup utility at mailrival.com maybe you should look into that as a safety net for your creations.

Two people can have the same idea, but when you can see that they didn't even add text, its obvious.

Yes, but at least that showed a little effort with a different template.

Actually I don't think I've ever seen an upvote of a guy stroking an upvote in bed. Not that there's anything right with that :)

I know right lol

In response to your other comment, we appreciate you too. You're always there with a relative comment that usually makes me laugh. You are the type of user I hope to make crack, much the way Conway and Korman went at it.

Jawohl