The hole in the Liberal logic

Majority of all mass shootings have been involving 9mm semiautomatic handguns (which is also the most popular gun to be used for conceal and carry. In gun deaths overall, less than 1/2% of people shot were due to a mass shooting. More than half of all gun related deaths are suicide.

As far as your percentages go, at least 42% of the population own a gun, so there goes your 75% figure. I definitely don't know where you got the figure of 3% owning 50% of the guns.

Here is a fact that I am sure you will ignore. It is becoming more and more possible for people to make their own guns (without having to purchase kits from overseas) in their own home. No matter what laws you create, what guns you decide to ban, or anything else you want to consider, those who make the decision to do these mass shootings or killings of any kind, will find a way to do it. So whether it is to obtain a gun legally, illegally, or get the equipment to make one themselves, they will find a way to do it. And if it isn't with a gun, then with something else. Just a couple common household cleaning chemicals can be used to create a bomb, that when it goes off may not kill people right away, but due to the gas that is released has the potential of killing people.

I find it sickening when people like you use tragic events like Vegas to push your agendas. Many current and former political figures are doing the exact same thing. Even Hillary Clinton, instead of saying something about sending thoughts and prayers to those effected by the Vegas shooting stated that this is an example of needing more gun control laws.

Until you get your facts straight about mass shootings, or even shootings in general, I don't think you should be trying to suggest what we should be doing about anything related to guns.

Amen !

Apparently you are not aware that there are thousands of registered Machine guns in the United States and they have MG shoots all over the Country. Only 1 that I know of was used to commit Murder and it was done by an Ex Law man who killed his Girlfriend. If they were such a problem then why do statistics show otherwise ?
A gun is a tool period. it wont act out without human use of it. Too bad ya can't ban Humans !!! Hitler tried it , So did Stalin, and Isis Is trying it now if you arent one of them.

Need I point out, as others have already done, that murder was never legal? And yet, the man in Vegas did it anyway.

Or Timothy McVeigh. Definitely not legal.

Or the Boston Marathon bombings. Carried out using pressure cookers turned into fragmentation bombs. The pressure cookers and the ball bearings inside them were easily obtainable, and yet they were turned into horrific weapons.

Common theme here: Deranged, evil individuals hell-bent on committing murder.

The type of weapon used is irrelevant, because the person using the weapon will find SOME way to carry out their intent. That's where you're getting hung up - we will NEVER be able to prevent crime. Which means, yes, there's an element of danger every time you step out your door. So, what will you do about it? Try to get rid of the best possible means of defense? Because that's what you're doing.

So laws are irrelevant? Why try to protect the public because people will "find a way?" Why don't you tell the victims and the families of all the mass shootings in this country? And I don't care how many registered machine guns there are if 3% of the population own 50% of them. They're unnecessary for self-defense as of yet. If a handgun can do the job than why do we need anything more? And why lift the restrictions on mentally ill buying guns? Who was that for besides the gun lobby looking out for manufacturers? Why should the mentally ill be allowed to purchase guns? Or will that block a good number of current gun owners in this country from being allowed to keep them?

The piece you mention about the mentally ill is factually innaccurate. I explained how that works in this thread. But i will do it again for the Canadians in the room, Nobody said mentally ill people can have guns or lifted restrictions. "Due process" was added and that's for persons that are on disability with a pay designee. Before the "lift" it was a blanket ban, like my brother who has MS (which is not a mental illness). I am his designee, so he would not be able to have an FID card let alone a CAL under the Obama order. Now he has due process so a judge hears the case and determines if he can have a gun. You should get your info from actual readings and not Chris Cuomo, CNN OR Jimmy Kimmel. Also the NRA has only donated 3.5 million to politicians since 1998! Hardly the amount of money running the country. Compare that with the 35 million that planned parenthood gave politicians in 2016 alone. From opensecrets.org. They track the finances of lobbyists. Look it up yourself. I encourage people to find enlightenment.

The job of the police is NOT to protect each person. Their job is to protect "the public". As a whole, not generally on an individual level. That is the point; you CANNOT prevent crime. However you CAN discourage it from happening by making the consequences so high, no one dares do it. How is it difficult for you to understand that there WILL ALWAYS BE CRIME? That's a simple fact; it is impossible to eliminmate crime, unless human nature is naturally good. Oh wait, look at all the crime in the world. Guess humanity is kinda lousy in that regard, so...crime isn't going away any time soon. However rather than hiding my head under my blankets, I choose to do something about it. Certainly, there might come a time when I may be faced by an armed man with murderous intent. And should that ever happen, I will be prepared to defend myself.

And, as our friend with a wooden leg has so aptly explained, nobody is talking about giving the mentally ill guns. You're the one bringing that up, because that's how you want to make others look bad by painting them as horrible people who want to arm those with mental disorders.

So the prerequisite for owning a gun is that it MUST be for self-defense? Very well; that means no one should be able to buy a Ferrari, because you may only own a car as a means of transport and a Ferrari is overkill. I figure you'll probably discount that argument as ridiculous, but it's the same one; if you can tell a person they may not have a certain type of gun because they don't "need" it, why should we be allowed to purchase anything we don't "need"?

And the fact you are still ignoring is that it doesn't matter if full-auto guns are legal; hop over to Mexico and buy one! Ever head of Prohibition? Didn't work out so well, now, did it? Marijuana is also illegal in many places, as are Cocaine and methamphetemines. Yet they're still used. Hmm. Guess a lot of people obey the law, don't they?

Focus should not be on the tools used to commit a crime; focus should rather be on making the punishment fit the crime.

Barry, I had ACL surgery at the time I created the account. Everyone called me peg leg because of the way I walked with my brace. Lol. I laughed when I read friend with the wooden leg. Haha. Probably should have went with my other choice....

Oh please so a gun is like a Ferrari? That would explain the camouflage military issue Ferrari model they have out.

Machine guns are a tool for violence and war. It's bad enough the world has to be subjected to the ridiculous games men play. But here we are. The average Joe can't buy a tank or a rocket launcher, last I checked. But since someone can create one out of an old Cadillac and a trash can that means there's no point in outlawing them? So we're back to there's no point in passing laws and no point in even having police because they do nothing?

If your argument is that even smaller guns are used in mass shootings then maybe you're making a case for outlawing them altogether.

So why is it worse to commit a crime with something that's illegal rather than something that's legal? Making guns illegal WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING FOR CRIMINALS.