Thanks for the riots, parents

Thanks for the riots, parents  | Temper tantrums got my way at home, so riots will get my way in the world! | image tagged in memes,temper tantrums,riots,spoiled brats,manipulation,discipline | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Wise King Solomon | HE WHO WITHHOLDS HIS ROD HATES HIS SON, BUT HE WHO LOVES HIM DISCIPLINES HIM DILIGENTLY. | image tagged in wise king solomon | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID. | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
Too many lectures, too little action. A spankkng is worth a thousand words.
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Hear hear
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YOU DIDN'T COUNT TO 10 FIRST! NO FAIR! | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Steve Harvey Meme | COUNT TO 10? I WAS LUCKY IF MY MOMMA MADE IT ALL THE WAY TO 3. WHEN I HEARD "ONE," I STARTED MOVING! | image tagged in memes,steve harvey | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Black woman | OH,  YOU KNOW MY BABIES DONE GOT DAT ASS WHOOPED! | image tagged in black woman | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
mm HMM!
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LOL
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"Abuse your children"
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Equivocation? False equivalence? Appeal to emotion? Anecdotal? Or just another red herring to avoid the real issue?
Discipline can in no way be equivocated as abuse when done properly.
Even if I choose to use corporal punishment, it can be done in a proper and loving way that does not harm the child physically or psychologically. People who use non-corporal means of discipline can harm a child when it is taken to far. If you "send them to their room" for too long a time they can become withdrawn and antisocial. So discipline and abuse are not the same thing.

Don't try to appeal to other's emotions when my argument has the child's, my own, and society's best interest at heart. All normal people hate the instances of children being abused whether they are beaten or left locked in a confined space for extended periods of time.

Or are you just trying to divert attention from the point of the featured meme, that parents who allow their children to throw tantrums their entire lives leads to young adults who throw tantrums in the streets?

Please discipline your children whether by corporal means or otherwise because if you don't the likelihood is greater that you too will raise "a good little domestic terrorists."
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A picture of antifa shouldn't be a warning sign to parents that if they are physically abrasive towards their children, then those children will not end up contributing to society. Oftentimes, a child can end up being more aggressive due to spanking, and be more fearful or even hateful of the parent. This is understandable, because the parent decided to stoop to that level by using violence rather than reason; it is also the parent's fault for having children before they are mature enough to handle taking care of another person.
The context of this verse is not in simply discipline, but rather that which is physical. In that case, especially given our modern and communicative way of life, the verse is outdated and needs better context.
I am appealing to new-fashion methods of wisely waiting on expanded world views and maturity in order to make a parenting decision.
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It seems all you are doing is attempting to justify your mislabeling of a biblical principle as "child abuse" instead of interacting with my criticism but I'll go along. I agree that the way a child turns out is not a parents "report card" on how well they did as parents. However, the way a person is raised can and often does have lifelong impact on that person's attitude, actions, choices, and course of life.

"Oftentimes, a child can end up being more aggressive due to spanking, and be more fearful or even hateful of the parent."

You are correct, especially if the corporal punishment is done wrong. Like I said, there is a way/method that should not lead to anger or discouragement in the child. That method includes talking to the child and letting them know what they did wrong, why it is wrong, and the consequences they are about to face for that wrong doing. Children not facing some kind of consequences for their bad behavior can immunize them from consequences they may face later in life.

I believe that corporal punishment is the biblical method of discipline and that we were designed to use/receive corporal punishment. God gave us an extra thick layer of padding on our backside so that we can endure the "rod."

There is a saying, "Real discipline happens when the rod of correction meets the seat of our understanding." But each individual parent or couple needs to decide that for themselves. If someone wants to use corporal punishment they should apply all the biblical principles of child rearing.

It is an ad hominem to say people who use corporal punishment to discipline their children are immature.
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With the Bible, everything is mislabeled. In fact, nothing in the Bible is labeled to begin with. Considering it's "all up to interpretation," anyone can and will pin any meaning on it that they want. That's why terrorists exist.

Of course we need corporal punishment. That was never part of the question.

I would go as far as to say that there is no right way to spank a child. In fact, if you told your child, "I'm going to hit you and it will hurt because you did something frowned upon," then they probably won't do that again, but what would stop that child from constantly thinking, "I'd better be good so that I don't get hurt again"?

Brute force should be used against people with weapons or that are a harm to others and themselves (technically including antifa), not because your kid broke a vase.

More specifically, I don't think being physical with a child can lead to any good, because humans, like all living things, are intrinsically built to avoid physical pain, and as such, to be so powerful over a child yet to stoop so low as to hurt them physically seems cruel.

Obviously children can't go running around doing whatever they want. We have a police force for a very good reason. I just think it's not healthy to have an approach
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With ultimatums as serious as spankings.

The verse itself says "He who withholds his rod hates his son." If this is a figure of speech, then what else in the Bible is? Was stone the gays a figure of speech? Was thou shalt not kill a figure of speech?
Considering the context of the time period surrounding the Bible, I wouldn't be surprised if real abuse was common, if not encouraged.

If not wanting people to be physically hurt if we can avoid it is an appeal to emotion, then it's a pretty good one if you ask me. Most people have a sense of "do unto others," but I suppose apathy regarding others' perspectives has few, if any, drawbacks.

Enjoy your buzzwords, I suppose. I hope we've learned a lesson in splodey heads today, as a single line of banter somehow evoked...this
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"Freedom" by RATM.

Good band until the lead went mentally liberal.
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It can even be seen on this site
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Great point
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A lot of people think that way. A shame. What's the point in putting in effort if everyone else gets a trophy just for showing up? There has to be winners and losers. That teaches people to put in more effort so they can get achievements. Your meme is spot on about the riots too. Adults acting like temper tantrum throwing brats.
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I know, right? Adult babies throwing temper tantrums and even killing people because a few participation trophies are being taken away.
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It's become an epidemic almost... Not many kids are taught proper manners and things. Parents just don't discipline their kids anymore. Sad.
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Suddenly the Kaiser Chiefs song I Predict a Riot becomes a lot more relevant :D
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I fully support the 1st amendment! Nazis, KKK, and ANTIFA, with their thug tactics are something different. ANTIFA is working to stop free speech by rioting and destroying property when people they disagree with try to give speeches.
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Remember when you point a finger, three fingers point back to you. The Antifa group does use violence, but you do you believe the American Nazis or the KKK will sit down and discuss things rationally over a cup of tea? Your dislike of one group while standing up for other groups that practice the same, or similar, methods, shows you're okay with all groups that practice such.

I mentioned this on another post, if you follow my comments here, and see a warning that billionaires around the country are noticing: while their concerns are about income inequality. One item I mentioned was a Nick Hanauer TED talk, https://www.ted.com/talks/nick_hanauer_beware_fellow_plutocrats_the_pitchforks_are_coming and say income inequality is a basis, but right now we are looking at a mass revolt.

I'll extrapolate it even further, all inequality. Two of the groups you mentioned have ideologies that wish to suppress others based on race, religion, or national origin. Antifa is against those fascist ideologies because they prove to be detrimental to society as a whole. People on the right are surprised that the left is willing to resort to violence. Surprise! Years ago, in my book, I point out the importance of turning the other cheek, but eventually, a man runs out of cheeks and gets his ass kicked. The American Nazi party laid low during the civil rights marches during the 50's and 60's because there were too many men in this country that had fought against them in Germany only a few years earlier. Proclaiming yourself as a Nazi during the peace marches would have meant instant death, not from the marchers, but from average citizens. That war ended over 75 years ago, and any failed to learn from it. Those too young to remember it, or even their parents discussing it, still learned from history. We are on the verge of a revolution that makes the French Revolution look like a cake walk. The suppression of ideas is wrong, but it looks as if history will repeat itself.
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The KKK are are dangerous, evil racists. Nazis are dangerous, evil national socialist. ANTIFA are dangerous, evil postmodernist internationalist socialist. Live with your self-righteous hate.
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Ah come on. It's 2017. Feeling are more important than facts. Sad but true.
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It might be part of a massive conspiracy
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Upvoted.
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That kid would not get his way in Spaaartaaa!
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