Columbus "landed" in America in 1492. For 89 years it has been celebrated as a holiday.

I was going to go a Star Wars on you.., but decided Fry would fit nicely.

Is this derailed from the question lll?

Yes. But you're Canadian so you're forgiven

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It looks like I'm under attack....

That would be so cool! :)

Ty. ;)

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I meant that the only place indigenous people exist is in Africa. All the rest is ignorant superiority under the guise of religion and / or greed. No excuses just facts.

And at no point did I claim that indigenous people were Superior to anyone else, the only thing that I say is teach history truthfully from both points of view and we were given treaties and we were put on lands, the most unwanted land but still it was promised to remain to be ours forever and over the years the government keeps taking more and more land away from us, violating our treaties those are contracts that's what we were given for all the land was taken those were deals that the government made with us. So you're saying it's fair to nullify our contracts at this point it's fair to take away everything we have left like the transaction never ever mattered? That is called fraud. We were defrauded then. So whoever sold your house to should buy your logic be able to after a period of Time come back and take that house from you and say that your deal is Null & Void and no you don't get your money back. Those deals were forced on us but we had to take them. And still you want more?

Wait. I'm agreeing with you. What happened when the Europeans invaded ( only way to see it) was horrendous.

I deleted those more argumentative posts. I'm sorry again for jumping to conclusions. Also looks like deleting my posts erased one of yours.

You speak passionately about a subject you believe in

Oh in that case I'm confused, I thought you were saying that we were not indigenous to the area unless we had crawled out of the mire or been created here whichever way you believe and that because of that we didn't have a right to the treaties. Reservations. I've had many people say these things to me before such as we were no better than cows grazing land and deserving of the same rights as those cows. I apologize for misunderstanding what you were saying, and thank you for clarifying it for me.

The most-used word was savages.

I have utmost respect for indigenous peoples. Columbus acted criminally. Indigenous peoples viewed land as belonging to everyone, or in that case, to no one, they traded freely among the tribes before Columbus, what one had and another didn't they exchanged over established trading, they kept the land groomed and parklike so agriculture and husbandry could thrive. Columbus arrived in search of gold and slaves, he wanted to conquer and obtain, Europeans had no understanding of the cultures and thought processes of the peoples they encountered so they called them primitive and barbarian to try to somewhat justify their interactions.

Thank you and I really appreciate your comments. I guess I'm starting to feel really freaked out and sensitive. I can see we are all being worked up into so many divisions because that is how major shifts in structure or moves for Genocide begin. Divided, no one to support eachother. I could talk til I'm blue in the face which by the way I am. On Twitter and FB too. They want those public trust lands and reservations bad to get every last drop of oil & gas. They, Nestles CEO wants to privatize the water, he says we have no right to free water as private citizens he and the crooked officials did that horrible thing to Flint Michigan. They have blocked them from being able to sue for the damages. We, all of American citizens, are so busy fighting with each other we look at it we say, that's so wrong that's so sad but we don't do anything about it.

It is estimsted
still over 100 "lost" tribes in the world that have never had contact with white peoples. Unfortunately they are being forced out of their hidden locations due to illegal logging and drug trade. Google lost people of Amazon

Yes they want that land very badly they made a movie a horror movie about the cannibals there that ate the people that went to protect them and it was very disgusting and it was very scary and it was for a specific purpose to demonize those people and to make people not care about what was going to happen to them.

Of course not. I've read the history. No one has the right to eminent domain, or manifest destiny.

So... we should be celebrating THOSE people for actually finding the continent

Who Columbus looking for India and landing in Central America? Or the People that migrated this way before the Continental Divide? If you mean Columbus, those Natives did. They took their boats out to the ship making many treks to get them and their things to shore. They treated them like honored guests and the only thing that he could do was evaluate if there was a way to salvage his journey to exploit the land and the people to get a return on his investment dismissed he had immediately dismissed them as inferior. Possibly they could make good slaves. Despite the kindness they had shown.

I was talking about celebrating the natives, but whatever floats your boat

Oh I really stuxx my foot in my big mouth all over the place. My apologies to you as well. Please don't hold this against me, I am not always so quick to assume the worst. Just the timezz..

It's fine. I can see why you misunderstood.

You or the wacko attacking me ?

Resistance is futile!

if we give real recognition to Natives then the reality will get exposed, because people will start admiring them instead of forgetting about them. Like in abusive families (and corrupt communities) where any victims are treated like they're stupid and unimportant human beings (gag) .

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Coolermommy I believe that thread was deleted... I think I'll make a meme for those links :) But I couldn't see what you said about Liberal.

Most people do not know that the Chickasaw tribe welcomed settlers and provided food and security for most of the SE section of America.

exactly!