“I’ve noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.”

If right and wrong exist, then they're constant. It doesn't matter that we're technologically "advanced" (bs if you ask me, a 22 year old. People are smarter, but more ignorant than ever. They don't care about what actually matters any more, which is why the world is going to have a major scare at some point in the near future.)

There are exceptions, not gray areas. It's either white or black. Exceptions (not excuses, which people always get confused with exceptions) make it white.

Excuses are gray areas, that still aren't white, and are still wrong. Exceptions are the white in the yin/yang. Just like there are exceptions in the white area that turn black. If a guy runs across the street in front of you, even though you have right of way by law, it's not okay to run him over.

Um, what actually DOES matter? If you're triggered by abortion, which is literally none of your business to begin with and actually helps with population control, there's no reason to get all uppity about it.

Population control? Are you serious!? These are PEOPLE getting killed by their own mothers! Do you have no sense of the inherent value a human life has?

Murders of the unborn in my community is my business, as in not paying for it with government "healthcare". Maybe you should assume a tiny bit of responsibility for your reproductive organs and not let them do your thinking for you?

i'm not gonna make a statement about abortion here (believe it or not, but i'm neutral), but if we were all acting like you suggested in your last sentence, we wouldn't have to deal with this in the first place (which would be awesome)

If it's happening with my tax money, then it's my business. Morality and common decency should be everyone's business regardless.

It isn't happening with your tax money. It's a violation of Federal law to use public funding (i.e. taxes) to pay for elective abortions.

Who's paying for the facilities then? Or the doctors' training? etc.

I love how conservatives do this thing when they create this magical reality for themselves where they are always right and everything that isn't conservative is objectively wrong. Then they say they're just "Telling it like it is" even though their opinion is absurdly subjective, and in this case, none of their business.
You know when most abortions are done? Most abortions happen while the baby is barely the size of a lentil. That thing up there is NOT what a baby looks like when abortions happen.
What a shitlord.

I wonder if liberal means thinking everyone is wrong and that logic has to be the answer for everything because you are to lazy to work for something.

.......did you just
"Logic has to be the answer for everything"
So you're saying logic Isn't reasonable?
So, if logic isn't the answer, I can obviously say there's a giant man in the sky who protects unborn babies; if I roll an orange, it will roll forever because illogically friction doesn't exist; I can jump to the moon because I believe in Jesus
And what exactly are you working for? You're on a meme generator creating sucky "rebuttals" for legitimate arguments.

Look who is talking, you're trying to insult me by saying that logic has to be the answer because of logic and just because I am on a meme site doesn't mean I don't have a valid point.

So apparently we can't read, nor can we form coherent arguments. Take 5th grade English, then we'll talk.
Basically, I'm not insulting you, I'm factually stating that your rebuttals to my arguments are shit and you're making emotional and half-hearted responses while expecting great results.
The thing about your "point" is that you really don't have one. Rather, you have an opinion that you cannot properly justify and are now floundering about with your argument.
Focus. Then come back.

So first you basically say arguing on a meme site is foolish yet you keep trying to trash talk. Maybe you're the one who needs an education.

??? I didn't see anything wrong.

Oh sorry I thought you were mocking me with 'liberal'

Yeah, that's what I figured. I wasn't mocking.

It doesn't matter what size the baby is when it is killed, it's still a baby who got their life cut short because of the bad decisions other people made. That's something to be sad about. Please forgive me if people with actual morals think that it is wrong to kill babies. My "magical reality" is far more logical than yours. Maybe you should reconsider who exactly it is that has created the "magical reality".

The thing is, it's not a baby. It's a fetus. It doesn't even look like anything close to a baby, nor has it developed any actual way to know it's alive.
Also, I actually would like to die, so there's that.

a fetus has a different genetic code than the mother. So technically its a different person, which means that the mother cannot claim it as part of her body. That in turn means that she cannot make the decision to kill it. It should be considered a murder.

Awsome point, bro.

Coming from the guy who doesn't believe in global warming...

I love how liberals think only their opinion matters and that logic is the answer for everything. Oh and I also love how liberals have to call people shit because they are to stupid to think up a better explanation.

Logic is in the eye of the beholder. People almost always miss some of the factors in the equation. Of course, a huge issue is: 'are there absolute values?' Anybody who objectively observes the universe knows that there are. Those who don't are deciding for themselves what is "reality," which might just not be based on what they want to believe.

I am a republican ok, and I will tell you exactly why liberals are wrong about everything. Here we go buckle in because we are going on an adventure. As a conservative and a republican I am following the word of the lord as I try to incorporate the lord's message in to everything I say and do. As a liberal however, what word do you even follow? Science? Common sense? Logic? The easy way out? Your so call 'opinions' have nothing to support them they are just opinions, I however have the lord telling me what is right and wrong. So please try again to submit another pointless opinion.

So essentially, liberals are wrong about everything because your imaginary friend says so. Gotcha.

What makes conservatives wrong then? Also if your trying to make a point, flat out insulting someone isn't the way to go

Not sure if you are responding to me, but I'm commenting anyway. I consider myself a moderate, but I do believe in absolute values--specifically that there is a higher authority known as God (of the Bible, not as we understand him--but truly as he says he is). Without a Foundation, reality seems to be whatever anybody thinks it is & so any opinion is as good as any other. Our limited science, common sense, logic, or feelings do not actually change what is true.

Um, if our feelings do not change what is true, why do we PRAISE JESUS to fill an emotional void? Why do we sympathize with unborn grain-sized parasites who are arguably contributing to excessive population and loss of resources?
Not sure exactly what your argument is other than that. We were on the topic of abortion, weren't we? This seems to have spun out of control.

Remember that at one point, YOU were a parasite. And your inhumane and heartless comments prove that you still are. And we do not praise Jesus to fill a void, we do it because he deserves the praise. Why is it that people like you care more about polar bears than human beings? What kind of twisted logic has corrupted you?

Abortion is based upon tossing out the argument that human life has an absolute value which is not determined by any belief of any person. And you don't "feel" an "emotional need" to justify yourself? The truth came first, before any of our feelings about that truth. At some point, there was no gray area. An example of a gray area, for us, is what to do to try & control population, if anything. How is going back to the basis why we have abortions 'out of control?' You probably are annoyed because it feels bad to you.

Which truth?
What basis?
We don't have abortions out of control.
Why would it feel bad to me?
Can you make a coherent argument?

Yes. I meant that people use "logic" but it's based on what they perceive as true, which may be different from an absolute truth (like the earth is spherical).

Values change for people, truth is absolute

1. Oh, wow, you're actually kinda dumb. Everyone thinks only their opinion matters, as you're now bashing my opinion and trying to hide it. Of course if people have clashing opinions, sparks are gonna fly.
Like, if you're implying that everyone's opinion matters, then that means my opinion matters, too, because from my experience here, I've observed my fair share of inbreds.
2. Too*
3. Are you kidding? I literally just gave you an in-depth explanation of my reasoning. You, on the other hand, did nothing to rebut me. You just said "You only think your opinion matters! You're rude and I don't like it, so you didn't explain anything!"
Like, grow some skin. It's the Internet, people are going to have differing opinions. If he hadn't said "ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE OBJECTIVELY WRONG," then I would have scrolled right past, but instead, he did, and it's essentially the biggest way to be a shitlord.
So, of course people will be against abortion for whatever reason; that I cannot change. However, to say that an entire demographic's opinions are objectively wrong and not expect your opinion to be challenged is just idiotic.
4. THIS IS A MEME GENERATOR. OH MY GOD, STOP DRAGGING POLITICS INTO EVERTHING. MAKE. FUNNY. MEMES. GO BACK TO FACEBOOK TO BITCH ABOUT COLLEGE LIBERALS, PLEASE. STOP. THIS HAS TO STOP.

Funny how you complain that talking about politics are foolish here yet you make your comment as long as the wall of China

Words of wisdom from Ronald Reagan. I love it.