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I've been thinking....... | I AM STARTING TO THINK PEOPLE ARE UPVOTING THE USER NOT THE ACTUAL MEME..... | image tagged in memes,futurama fry | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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UPVOTES THE USER NEVER READ THE MEME! | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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10 Guy Meme | I'M A USER AND UPVOTED YOU | image tagged in memes,10 guy | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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WHY THANK YOU MY GOOD SIR. | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
Ty
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YOU'RE WELCOME | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Dead End Kids | YOUR MAMA! | image tagged in dead end kids | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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OH NO ! DON'T SAY IT MY MAMMA SLEPT WITH ALL OF YOU | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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One Does Not Simply Meme | ALL OF US AT THE SAME TIME | image tagged in memes,one does not simply | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
You forgot to upvote before you commented. Remember the imgflip 'Rules Of Courtesy'
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A lot of people think that on imgflip.

I don't think it's true, though.

If people were upvoting users, rather than the meme, then memes by popular users would tend to all have the same amount of upvotes (because their fans would come and upvote all their memes regardless of content). But they don't.

Also, if people were upvoting users, rather than the meme, new users would not be able to quickly rise and become popular. And yet they do. DashHopes is an example of someone who went from being unknown, to smashing the weekly leaderboard, very quickly - mostly from interacting with lots of other people with meme comments in a friendly way.

I think it looks like people upvote popular users rather than the meme, since popular users tend to on the front page more often than unknown users do. I think this happens (in part) because of the number of people who visit our profiles directly. Unknown users don't have that advantage, so it's harder for them to get a meme up the stream high enough where the imgflip community can get it to the front page (since nobody can upvote what they don't see). Unfortunately, a lot of good memes are overlooked on the site.

So yes, I can definitely see why you'd be thinking that. It's understandable. And being a popular user definitely has its advantages, but I don't think it's realistic that people's votes come from just one factor (e.g. popularity), without the content of the meme being a factor also.

Hope you don't mind the long comment.
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6 ups, 1 reply
I guess the trick to a good meme is something people can relate to
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Yes. People often upvote memes they can relate to. I think that might be the reason that memes about upvotes and the front page often do well.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Hey socrates. How do you make a string of memes like your hate Star Wars 7 page?
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It's called a memestream. If you go to your profile, and look on your left, there's an option called "My Streams." It'll give you the ability to make one.

I didn't make the DisneyKilledStarWars stream, by the way. I like posting in it because I find it hilarious that people are pretending SW7 was a decent movie.
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Thank you!!!
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mr sock crates, sry to crush ur soul, but ur ARROGANT
i like SW7 and i dont pretend to like it. you say im pretending because ur brain is too small to figur out some peeople like stuff that you dont
sry to condradict ur opinion and destroy ur childhood or whatevs but this is teh interwebz, so deal with it
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https://i.imgflip.com/17ok8u.gif LOL
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Lol thanks for putting me in my place :D
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But no, my claim wasn't arrogant, just informed opinion.

Star Wars 7 was, objectively speaking, a poorly done movie.

If you like it, that's up to you. A lot of people like bad movies. I didn't say, "I find it hilarious that people are pretending to like it." I said, "I find it hilarious that people are pretending SW7 was a decent movie."
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I think Elongated_Monk could've been an exception to what you were saying.
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Yeah, I saw his memes and they were pretty funny. His first three memes he submitted were front pagers. I had never seen that before. The only user I've seen when they first started get a lot of upvotes was Entertainer28. If you'll notice his comments, there's only about 300-something and he has over one million points. That's just unheard of in this site. Everyone else, including me, with over a million points have well over 5,000 comments each.
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2 ups, 1 reply
How do you mean?
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His first two or three memes made it to the front page.
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Oh, I see. Yeah. I still think it's harder in general for less-known users, but you're right, there are exceptions to that.
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I've been here for a while. I comment on the front page, and none of my memes have made it.

What about XenusianSoldier? He made funny memes. He's been here longer than anyone else. When he left he was 18th I think. How is that?
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3 ups, 1 reply
I've actually been here a little longer than him, but I deleted my original account. I was actually here when the mods were still making memes.
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This site has mods??

Lol
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I actually thought the same when I first started. Now I think differently. I feel like it seems like it's the top (regular) users because it is the top users who remain involved and comment on other memes. And the top &/or regular users here are a much smaller percentage of the visitors to this site. The question I now ask is why so many people bother to view a meme and not upvote or comment. Right now this meme has 13,792 views and 162 upvotes. It seems like a lot of upvotes but the upvotes are only 1.1% of the views. Yesterday I checked the percentages of upvotes of the total number of views for the front page memes and the highest percent was 1.4. Thank goodness Imgflip assigns more points to the upvotes. It's the laughs that keep me here as stated in my meme comment way at the bottom of this page.
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I've had 2 replies to my comments in this thread but zero upvotes. There ought to be a law! I just upvoted your comment. That's only fair.
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It got 195 upvotes...so im thinking alot of people think that. You posted number memes and the first few got to the front page. Id say thats proof upvoting the user
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8 ups, 1 reply
I see what you mean, I've seen some random, unfunny stuff getting a lot of upvotes. They happen to be created by top users as well
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There IS auto votes for popular users, but it's about 15-20. Enough to get them to the front 2 or 3 on the hot page. Then it just takes off from there.

Only the mods know who is upvoting the memes... or maybe they don't and the votes become"anonymous" in the database. I wouldn't think so though.

But if it were like Facebook, where you can See the names of everyone that liked a post, then we'd see the trend for each user.

I still believe to just be creative, but submit at morning, noon, or evening (EST) is best.

I just don't understand the page 9 submits that kill a meme before it can ever have a real chance.
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8 ups, 3 replies
We made it to the front page thank you guys so much! I never expected it but it happened, and I couldn't have done it without you guys.
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Not only that, but the top of the front page.
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Awesome. Running a similar experiment on this link.

imgflip.com/i/17kkow
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3 ups, 1 reply
I went ahead and upvoted that for you bud
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https://i.imgflip.com/glboz.jpg
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So true.
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6 ups, 1 reply
I used to think that too. However some of my memes have 3-5 votes each, and I am a top user. It really does have a lot to do with feature time. The only time I really upvote just for kicks is when someone is getting ready to hit a million or I see a new user who is funny but maybe not getting noticed by others. Anyone can make the front page and get a lot of upvotes but you have to interact. I submit 2-3 memes a day, and when I was on the weekly leader board all the time I was commenting constantly. Sounds crazy but it takes a lot if time and work to keep an ImgFlip account going.
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Please clap.
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5 ups, 1 reply
Are you making that statement because you haven't got many points? Coz, if you want more points, maybe, you should make more memes?
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I don't care about points, and I have lots of ideas for memes. I am trying to submit one everyday.
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It's 2016, noone upvotes horse f**ker memes anymore.
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3 ups, 1 reply
More unique users would make the front pages, if the latest pages were ranked on likes and not time.
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5 ups, 1 reply
But seriously, I thought I was funny, but I rarely get more than 2 up votes. I guess people don't like me.
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3 ups, 1 reply
You've been here for two months and only made 48 comments...I'd say that it is not that people don't like you, it's that nobody knows who you are.
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Ah, more comments needed. Gotcha, thanks
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Comments are a big deal here...if you look at any top user, you'll see that we all have comments in the thousands.
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3 ups, 1 reply
not true. i have no friends on imgflip.
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i dont have many real friends either. i dont really care either. at least most upvotes go to people who deserve them. MOST OF THEM.
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Yes this is the mean girls' table at lunch if the girls were sweaty old guys and instead of the cafeteria it's a boys bathroom during a fart sniffing contest. But yeah just like that.
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Status and popularity do give certain users more upvotes. You can't say that a user rather than their memes is what gets the upvotes while also saying that those same users get more visitors to their profile because of their status. That really is a contradiction. Besides status though, there are a few other factors for what gets upvoted. Contraversal memes get more attention, but once again that is also determined by who created, what time it features, and how many like that are being featured at the same time. A more popular user can get more upvotes for posting the exact same thing as someone else, so that would suggest the user and not the meme is getting voted on. Another factor in determining the popularity of the meme is the time it was featured, and honestly what page it starts getting featured on. People got on me about this in the past, but they also refused to listen. Most users who check out the latest memes might take time to only look at the first few pages. For some reason imgflip changed things with custom templates where they all get featured at the same time a couple times a day. This does happen to all users, however because popular users already get more attention by having more visitors visit their page, when and where a meme gets featured at does not effect them, which is why they didn't care about the issue when I first brought it up.

In short, popularity and status of a user does factor into the majority of what memes get votes. With new users that seem to get their first few memes on the front page, this can be due to if they are linking their memes on multiple other sites which can draw traffic to their meme. But you shouldn't take my word for it, you should just look for the patterns that take place.
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Sure I was excited about it (and I'm sure I'll get the itch for another). But for the past few days I haven't submitted any new memes and I'm having a blast commenting on other people's memes and seeing their replies. It's the laughs that keep me involved. I upvote and comment on a lot of memes that are not made by the top users. And I see the top users doing the same. If you frequently visit the latest pages you will see proof of this. I actually felt the same way you did when I first started. I started a little over a month ago on June 12. Happy memeing. :)
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5 ups, 1 reply
I agree with you. Imgflip is clearly all about sycophantic popularity. :{
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And i return the balance by down voting the user
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cough raydog cough
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HISSSSS
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It's time...

https://imgflip.com/i/17mm13
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I figured this out a while back. Don't let the popular memers sway your opinion. I create memes that I think the majority conservative community on this site can relate to, yet they never gain traction.
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No.
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NOT ME....... MEME ONLY
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really not been here very long. still can't figure it out despite trying to do so.
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