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3 ups
So true!
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I think the feminist movement WAS useful, but now it's becoming like every other liberal social reform BS; In the pursuit of equality, we have started simply reversing sexism; Now saying anything about a woman can get you fired, or at the very least ruin your reputation.
It's sad too, because I suspect that women who do work hard and have good positions don't like the fact that women who are less "industrious" can jump to the top based on their genitalia.
Men and Women have equal rights now, no doubt about it; Sexism will always exist because there will always be egotistical men who think they are better than women. But the majority of men (Including myself) have no problem with an independent, successful woman striving to do her best.
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Women are upset by that stereotype though. And no woman expects to get paid for taking care of her children; I've known many many mothers with 2, 3, 4, 5+ kids who find great joy in taking care of their families. Feminism tells them that being a stay at home mom is a bad thing that limits them and makes them slaves to men.
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3 ups, 2 replies
But the job is hard work and there's no pay. Society now makes women simultaneously ashamed of being a stay at home mom yet expects women to work full time and do the majority of the domestic duties. And they still get paid less because we live in a patriarchal society.
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2 ups, 1 reply
If we live in a so called patriarchal society how come we cut part of a boys dick off at birth and how come men almost always lose custody battles and how come men when **ped barely receive any help
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0 ups, 1 reply
Why haven't we had a female president yet in the 200 year history of this country? Why were liberated male slaves given the right to vote before rich white women? Why is it okay for women to bare their beasts in public in a sexual manner but not for the feeding of a child? We definitely don't live in a matriarchival society. .. at least not yet :)))
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Weve had millions of female candidates the people just haven't voted and guess which gender votes more, female. Rich woman could vote years before slaves and it is not okay to bare your breasts for sexual reasons in public any where
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjWBXbGVyQU
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2 ups
That they chose to do
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1 up
I agree.
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7 ups
Nailed it
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11 ups, 5 replies
Because men are oppressed...how exactly? It's not like you get paid less for doing the same job as a woman, pretty sure it's the other way around.
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8 ups, 2 replies
It's not like men only have a 20% chance of winning a custody case in family court... It's not like men are the majority of suicides... It's not like men are more likely to die on the job... It's not like men are EXPECTED to feed a family when a mother is perfectly capable of doing it... It's not like men almost never get a say-in during abortions...
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It's not like women get shorter sentences than men for the same crime... It's not like women can ruin a mans reputation by simply stated she was **ped by him... It's not like men don't get any-to-little help when they are **ped...

Side note: If you f**king want equality, be my go***amned guest... But make it TRUE equality and focus on rights that WOMEN HAVE that MEN DON'T. Not just the so-called "Patriarchy."
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The whole 'men are expected to feed the family' thing is rather outdated, don't you think? Women are equally expected to earn a paycheck now and simultaneously take care of the kids. I mean wasnt it men who said that a womans place was in the kitchen to begin with? Plus, the whole term deadbeat dad didn't just arise out of nowhere. As far as abortions go, what if men were the ones who got them? Do you really think women would be able to tell them they couldnt?
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Once you have sex and you/her are pregnant, you lose your individual decision to terminate a child... It is no longer your choice whether you have the child... It's BOTH the parents decisions. That's the argument I'm pointing out, the man/FATHER is never taken into account...
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The wage gap does not account for hours worked or job position it is just the rounded up average of male and female workers pay
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5 ups, 2 replies
Wage gap is a lie in 2016. Besides almost every HRM positions are held by women...
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3 ups, 3 replies
And 90% of all nursing jobs, and 89% of all teaching positions. 71% of all HR positions are held by women btw
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Yeah but men have to be ok since they are the ''oppressors'' !
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0 ups, 2 replies
Who holds the majority of upper level management jobs? Or doctors? In the 60 someone I know looked into being an animator for Disney and was told that wasn't a job for a woman. Schools were teaching the females how to be homemakers but not the males. Are we to belive these things happened because females wanted it that way?
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And who is willing to work 60+ hours/wk for 20-30 years straight? Who makes the decision to apply for medical school knowing the demands that will be placed on them? NO ONE FORCES anyone to apply for medical school ... and if you'll do a little research, you'll find that now, the female/male distribution for those entering medical school has reached parity.

I can't help history but I'm not going to be bound by it either. And by bound, I mean whining and complaining, constantly bringing up outdated statistics from 50+ years ago (today there IS NO gender gap except in Hillary Clinton's campaign), refusal to recognize that some groups work more hours and are willing to forego family commitments, and that some groups naturally trend toward different occupations in general than other groups.
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Your inference that women aren't willing to work 60 hrs for 20 to 30 yes straight was just disproved by your last comment. And if you followed the thread from the start you would see that I was bringing up historical events to prove to the other guy that our society has been a patriarchal one from the start and not much has changed...
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HAHA! If you see it that way, I can't help you. That wasn't an inference, it was a fact. Men work longer hours for more years than women. Over the course of time, it means more pay and more promotions.

But parity is being achieved as more and more women recognize that to get to the top, they can't take 15 years off work to raise the kids and take care of momma/daddy in their old age.
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Oh whatever... I also have a friend who is actually going to college for Digital Illustration and she is being looked at by Pixar (Aka Disney.) It is not a job "for men." Your friend either was overlooked or Disney wasn't interested in het because there were animators better than her and she made up this big ol' sob story on why Disney is sexist.
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And HR set wages, not Finance?
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Personaly I've always negotiated my wages with a HRM (who always happen to be a woman), and never with Finance.
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Personaly I've always negotiated my wages with HRM (always a woman btw) and never with finance.
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And who tells HR where the cap is? Ah, I'm just shoving my two pen'orth in for fun really. I do think it's weird HR and Admin is mostly women, but, I think some women don't aim high enough, just like some men, and they settle for less. I hope you're happy with your wage packet MrNobody and you, and others where you work, get paid fairly for what they do.
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Pay is lost when the worker takes an average of 1 day a month off, and wants to leave as soon as possible from work.
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Be the person male or female, cutting pay for that sounds reasonable.
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2 ups
Here you go, now you can't complain.

http://www.people.com/article/tallywackers-all-male-hooters-dallas
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2 ups, 1 reply
Ok, men aren't oppressed, but men are still supposed to be the "breadwinners" and work long hours, which keeps them away from home. Marriages and families suffer.
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3 ups, 1 reply
They don't have to be the breadwinner, they can be a stay at home dad and let their wives work. Or, how's this for RADICAL, a couple could NOT HAVE KIDS if they doubt their ability to pay for all they will want to provide for them.
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You, sir or madam, have common sense!
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Feminists only want equality between sexes. Just because someone is "pro-women" doesn't mean that they are "anti-men"
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Custody of their children?
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Not a right....and I know guys that got custody over the mother. It's not unheard of.
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5 ups, 1 reply
But not as common... Women have an 80% chance of winning.
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Since you have a source if facts (ha) What percentage of men fight for sole custody?
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3 ups, 1 reply
I get my facts from Census.Gov however I cannot link it since it's a downloaded document... I can tell you however, that only 1 in 6 custodial parents are fathers. (~17.8% which I roughly round to 20%.)
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That means nothing. A number is a number. Maybe the vast majority of fathers don't try to be custodial parents.
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3 ups, 1 reply
A "maybe" is not a guarantee...
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1 up, 1 reply
Exactly....we'll never know....unless there are factual stats. Go ahead and dig em up.
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(We kind of know. Only 4% of custody arrangements actually make it to family court. The rest are either decided by the parents themselves or through mediation, which a third party helps them come to an agreement.

DeathCStalker's stats only tell the percentage of men and women who are custodial parents, not how they came to be that way. So if his numbers are right, and only 20% of fathers are custodial parents, then that means your assumption about the majority of fathers not trying to be custodial parents is correct) LOL
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It happens in Vegas all the time.
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5 ups, 1 reply
That they should be respected as well
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Not a right
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4 ups, 1 reply
The right to not have their foreskins cut off as babies
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Their parents decide that. Just like any other decision that needs to be made. Until they can or are legally able.
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2 ups, 1 reply
those other decisions are stuff like religion or diet REVERSIBLE things not something permanent like circumsison
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Well take that up with parents...
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3 ups, 1 reply
It's the fact that the parents are allowed to do it
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Correct. Men and women decide the fate of a baby. So this is not a "men's rights" issue. Is a "baby's rights" issue. Is this seriously your argument to men's rights vs women's rights? Or are you just a troll?
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The fact that parents can decide to cut of a man's foreskin is a men's rights issue since women arn't allowed to be circumsed until they can make the decision
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Ok....I'll concede. Men...at age zero....have their rights infringed upon them...since they have no cognitive ability to defend it....so their parents....care takers and powers of attorney....decide for them all things...including feedings and changings....also decide to snip some skin off the pee pee.....and this....THIS is your best argument as to how men's rights are infringed....

Ok. That's one.
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Well I also have custody loss and failure to receive breast cancer screening
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We addressed custody and men make up literally 1% of all breast cancer cases. Do you just hate women? Is that it? Because these issues are sad to be b**ching about. For a man I mean.
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First of all why are you assuming automatically that I'm male second of all your arguments against the custody problem seem weak as you accuse others of not having a source when you yourself don't have any citations third of all even if it is one percent people should still be allowed screening when they request it
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I'm not assuming you're a man or woman. And my statement stands.
Also...my number of 1% is a fact of medical science. Out of cases of breSt cancer....1% are men. That's cut and dry. There's no disputing it. There 8 no "why?" ...that's it.

The number of men that win custody may be 20% ...but the question is "why?"...the answers can be "they are bad parents" "they didn't try" "they aren't as good as the mother" among other things.

Most guys I know just don't bother to try for sole custody because they want their kids to see their moms 1/2 the time so they fight for joint. Some are better fit for being the primary parent and did fight and won.

None have had breast cancer.
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PS to quote you a number is just a number so apparently that 1 percent thing don't matter
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Name me one right men have that women don't
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Men have the rights to appear in any public swimming pool with bare chests. Women can't. They HAVE to cover their nipples or nipple area - just because they are female.
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2 ups, 2 replies
Boobs are highly sexualized. That'd be like saying men don't have the right to flaunt their dick out in public
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Breasts ARE not primary sexual organs. I don't think of sex as soon as I see a breast! The point is MEN have sexualized breasts leaving women with no choice to cover up or be seen as sexual. Men have removed women's right to be topless, yet they retain their own. You attempt to make a point about exposing genitals, I'm comfortable with the fact no adult has the right to do that in public, everyone should keep their pants on. Mammaries aren't genitals!
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Are you saying we should stop people from finding boobs sexy
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Yes they arn't genitals but still the male nipple is usually okay because it is not required to feed a baby while the female nipple is. When babies are breastfed oxytocin is created helping the mother and child to bond the most likely explanation is that the baby links the breast to a sort of forbidden primal happiness later on in his or her life and subconsciously sees it as sexual
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If it's only subconsciously sexual, why do breasts have to be covered? Women don't object to other women being topless in the ladies changing room, are you saying they are all getting turned on by each other?
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Because straight woman arn't attracted to woman
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0 ups, 1 reply
It's not like that at all. Women don't have pubes around their boobs.
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1 up, 2 replies
But dicks are just as sexualized as breasts
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1 up, 1 reply
Not true, a flaccid p**is is not particularly sexy to a lot of people. A p**is is a primary sex organ, you can't have conventional penetrative sex without one, you don't need breasts to have sex.
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1 up, 1 reply
I'm not talking about a flaccid p**is
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So, what are you talking about. You said, dicks are just as sexualized as breasts. I disagree. Many people disagree. That's why erect p**ises are not allowed to be shown on TV in many countries and breasts are ok. P**ises ARE more sexual than breasts.
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Why are they sexualized in our society?
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I don`t have anything against letting woman do that ( ?° ?? ?°)
In all seriousness though why is that illegal? seems kind of dumb to me
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2 ups, 2 replies
Women don't have the right to prevent pregnancy - in some places. Men do.
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In some places a male baby can have its foreskin cut off if their parents want it places like ummm the USA
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Keyword: Some
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You ask for one right, I gave you one. The right to drive isn't available to all women. The right not to have their daughter's genitals mutilated isn't available to all women. The right to public toilets isn't available to all women. Why is SOME so specifically? You didn't ask for a right all men have that all woman don't.
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How about not getting burned alive because your parent don't have more dowry money to give? How about not being able to walk around in shorts or risk getting stoned to death? Or not being able to attend school without getting shot in the face for it?
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Wait... Did you just compare rights that women in foreign countries don't have to that of first world feminist "problems"?
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Friendship is Magic!
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Execpt men already have all the rights. Women are the ones being paid less and have to face sexual harassment on a daily basis.
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Funny joke
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1 up, 1 reply
What do you mean?
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5 ups, 2 replies
Women aren't paid less than men, and not every single damn woman is sexually harassed one a daily basis
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So even though it is a known fact that women are paid 79 cents per every dollar a man earns, you're going to ignore it?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2vaBHbpOSg
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One video shaped your opinion? Ask your mom, ask your aunt, or even ask your boss, for that matter. Anywho,
http://www.iwpr.org/initiatives/pay-equity-and-discrimination
http://www.aauw.org/research/the-simple-truth-about-the-gender-pay-gap/
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/research-finds-women-paid-less-than-men-in-90-of-sectors
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https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=debunking+the+wage+gap

More than one video shaped my opinion on the fact that women aren't paid less than men. My mom made the same amount of money as her male coworkers and so does my aunt.
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Solid. My mother was a veterinarian and earned just 80 percent of the pay my father did (he was also a vet working at the same animal hospital). But it looks like both sides have convincing arguments.
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Not every woman is sexually harassed on a daily basis but many women are.
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Define 'many'
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More than men
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Give me numbers
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More than 50 percent of women and nearly 20 percent of men.

(This is where you say my liberal college study skews numbers, right? )
http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2011/study-finds-gender-differences-related-to-sexual-harassment/
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Your study was based on military "harassments" in which only 6,000 participants are screened... There are ~4,220,000 service members in the US military... So that mean a single participant represents over 700 US servicemen. That is not a big enough survey to conclude that women are harassed more... Also, your source does not clarify what sexual "harassment" was classified as... Was it a simple "hello"? Or was it an actual sexual remark? Furthermore, it does not specificy hoe man of each gender were screened.
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This is where I say it only tested 6,000 people and applied those numbers to 158 million people
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And gay men? Or men with HIV? Or men with criminal convictions? Equality people! Rights for ALL, not some for some and some for others, UNLESS, letting some have their right, take rights away from others.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjWBXbGVyQU
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Men's rights? Ugh. We've always been paid better than woman, we are always stereotypically picked to "do the right job", we are not questioned about our emotional stability, and we are not judged by the size of our rack.

Fighting for men's rights. ha. That's like fighting to make Pokemon popular.
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Still allowed on the beach topless - 12 year old girl isn't.
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But as HumanBeingWH said, you can show off those titties just about anywhere, and they won't talk about you on Fox News.
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Actually, Fox News has discussed moobs
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1 up, 1 reply
Haha. If they have, it's only because they are fat-shaming, not because they don't think moobs should be exposed or not.
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0 ups, 1 reply
How would you know?
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1 up, 1 reply
Because it's Fox News.
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I love that you think I'm voting for Bernie Sanders simply off the idea that Fox News is an awful news station (And so are MSNBC and CNN, to be honest). Because a news station is biased and I'm against it doesn't mean I'm automatically for the other biased garbage. Get off your high horse and stop being sheepish.
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Deal with it
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Once again, I love that you think I'm voting for Hillary simply off the idea that Fox News is an awful news station (And again, so are MSNBC and CNN... UGH). I hate BS duel-party politics. They suck hardcore. No one is truly 100% liberal or conservative. NO ONE is truly 100% Republican or Democrat. Most people are moderate, because can't admit that, because their stupid biased parties demand their support of a candidate that they actually don't fully align with.

Republicans are settling for either Cruz (An amazing idiot) or Trump (A royal liar, crook, and the king of narcissism). Democrats are settling for Hillary at this point (A liar of the same degree as Trump and a truly appalling politician).

Do you not realize how stupid all this crap is? Here. Let me spell it out for you in the plainest of words:
F*CK FOX NEWS. F*CK MSNBC. F*CK CNN. F*CK HILLARY. F*CK TRUMP.

There. Do you understand? I'm not a sheep that cheers for one of these morons that pretends they actually care for me. Come this November, no matter who you vote for (Trump or Hillary), you're getting a piece of garbage. And don't give me this crap that so-and-so is the lesser of two evils. NO. EVIL IS F*CKIN' EVIL. Why do we settle for this? It's like deciding to eat shards of glass or shards of metal. In the end, both are going to destroy your insides, and that's exactly the political scenario that you're getting this year. But please, continue to tell me who I support, and for the love of god, stop believing that Trump is the messiah of politics. That asshat has been in the game longer than you've probably been alive.
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I'm absolutely suggesting that Pokemon are too popular. Trying to make them more popular is... obsolete. ;)
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1 up, 1 reply
Why post anonymous?
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1 up, 1 reply
The person might not have had an account on here.
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1 up, 1 reply
Oh that makes sense. I didn't know you could do that.
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Yeah.
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1 up
True Our world is a dark place.
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3 ups, 1 reply
I think it's because women have less right than men... But I understand the meaning of the meme.
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6 ups, 3 replies
Specifically, which rights do women not have?
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4 ups, 1 reply
The right to shut up and obey their wife/gf ;D
Honestly, I don't see any mens groups complaining how men are quite pipularly portrayed as bumbling fools who badically just sweat and take sh*ts all day. In fact, I often see angry feminists making those types of comments about men and the only response she gets is "Amen!".
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Yeah, it's a popular narrative to say that women aren't paid like men for the same job but I can never find specific examples where "all things are equal" in the parameters.
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2 ups
Perhaps not specifically rights, but they are not equal to men. For example, their wages are lower than men's, but women are not included in the draft
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It depends where you live. Woman don't have the right to drive in some countries. All humans should have the right to be treated equally unless they want to take the human rights of others away. A women should be paid the same as a man to do the same job, but less if she wants more parental leave than gets because she's a mother.
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I totally agree (and wish I could do meme comments).
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too smart 4 meh
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Not true. I am a woman and I upvoted because I see truth to the meme. Men should have more rights then they are afforded as far as their children are concerned. Women overwhelmingly win in that area in court decisions. Men have no say if a woman chooses to abort/murder his baby. If a man is accused of **pe, he is generally guilty before being proven innocent. The one wrong/miss spoken word could get him fired for sexual harassment. Men should have equal rights, too.
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I present to you, the common sense of the year award.
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I wouldn't agree with your **pe statement. None of the rapists I've represented have been convicted. Maybe what you say applies to police who file charges, but jurors appear to remain skeptical of **pe claims. Good to know, right?!
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I was speaking more about public opinion. But, there are also areas where what you experienced is not the norm in the courthouse as well.
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Not true :)
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