I've never noticed an actual difference but I'm nonbinary do yall binary folks actually see a difference between how genders act

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there is a difference (or no difference) depending on the person. yes there can be a difference and there usually is because of the personality and emotions of the person but people make that stereotype for some reason cuz i guess people really like segregation so now theyre gonna try to bring it back but instead of black people and white people its women and men. (sorry if what I said at the end of the comment seems a bit unreasonable but I just really hate this stereotype.)

Yeah it has got to be one of the most prevalent modern prejudices

There's literally so many differences between genders, what do you mean

Each time I do notice a difference (which is rare) I realize 5 seconds later that it's not an actual difference in personality and is just a product of gender roles and the patriarchy f**king people over ykwim? maybe I'm wrong tho the title was a genuine question, I'm not the most qualified person to speak on this because of my experiences with gender

People have vast personalities, but there are differences in genders
Like girls care more about fashion, boys are physically stronger, girls talk about smaller things like conversations and food while boys talk about bigger things like crypto and politics

these are all things that I have noticed a little but can be boiled down to the result of a patriarchal society, so I do not actually see them as differences in personality. Girls care more about fashion sometimes... because when society was more oppressive against them it was one of the only things they could express themselves in, and because of pressure put on them by their elders and peers since it is what they see as normal. Boys are physically stronger due to increased testosterone production, but this post was more about personality. For the girls talking about smaller things and boys talking about bigger things, that one is far more obvious and I'm sure you can see how that one relates to gender roles and the patriarchy.

But men have been stronger ever since Adam and Eve, it's historically true
And no one's really forcing what we talk about. It's just what interest them. Small talk is a little more awkward for guys but girls like talking about details. They're really the more detail oriented gender tbh

I never denied men being stronger lol, that's how biology works. And for the no one forcing what we talk about, I really beg to differ. Historically, women were shunned when they tried to talk about things considered "too complex" for them, and men have been shunned for acting too womanly and showing emotion. Societal pressure shapes how we act. And for the small talk thing, this is another effect of gender roles. The patriarchy made it so that it was frowned upon for men to show emotion or seek mental help, resulting in men being emotionally stunted and worse at conversations and forming connections overall, while women are more emotionally aware.

But people can do whatever they want now so we get to talk about whatever we want
Women have equal rights with men to pursue whatever they want
So we have the freedom to talk however, but we still choose to talk the way we do

I believe you underestimate the influence of societal pressure on a person. We are a societal species and have a tendency to do what is considered normal. In modern times this has decreased due to the fight against gender roles, but psychological studies show that it is still very much relevant. Would you like me to link some of the studies I'm referencing?

But what's forcing people to talk about this stuff nowadays
Especially for people who aren't a decade old

Please read the "Occupation" and "Education" sections of this study. I'd like to know what you think. https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/health-and-medicine/gender-roles-and-gender-role-conflicts

The study goes into how gender pressure affects people's interests and more. And as for your "Especially for people who aren't a decade old" statement, what influences you as a younger child influences you throughout your whole life. The tree remembers.

The chemical difference in our bodies plays a natural part in this as well btw. Both men AND women are more likely to do certain things based on their sex, not gender, bc we had evolved to do so when we were monkeys, and "the tree remembers". I'm not denying that societal pressures and stereotyping haven't played a part, but we evolved to fit into certain roles based on our sex, most likely due to that pregnant women would be counterproductive in a hunt, and we're left at the cave to do the more domestic stuff and breastfeed the children. And over time, this lead to the normalisation of women doing domestic stuff, but it wasn't originally sexist because it was born out of logic, not "I don't like women". Its modern day equivalent would be tampons, it's not sexist that a man doesn't wear them because it would be a waste of products (energy, the actual tampon) that make it useless for a man.

nothing is "forcing" people, persay but as previously stated, societal pressure to fit in is one hell of a motivator

No matter how equal in rights women will get, there will still be a difference between the mind of a woman and a man. Your patriarchy is an excuse you give to say that women deserve the same as men. They do, but that's not the right reason.

When you get what you want, and I don't think anyone will be able to stop y'all, all you will end up with is women fighting on the frontlines in war against much stronger war-tuned men. That will not end well for women. The best way to fight a war is to recognise people's differences. You don't tell the ground army to go on a naval battle, that's what the navy's for.

Please show me a study that shows non-hormonal major behavioral differences in the neurology of men and women. All reputable studies I have read show otherwise. Also, please read my comments closer. I was talking about patriarchy-caused societal pressure, not the patriarchy itself. The patriarchy is mostly dead, and I never denied that.

To respond to my message, just respond to one of my much earlier messages or send a new comment and say it’s addressing my comment.

Sir, if only your surroundings and experiences affect your brain, men and women will still have distinct differences. Why? Well, because hormones. Hormones will affect girls and boys in distinct different ways. So, even if, though unlikely, women and men are different in no other way brain-wise, they’ll ALWAYS be distinctly different.

It’s possible to get reputable sources for a lot of things. For example, atheists have reputable sources against God, and Christians, like me, use reputable sources for God, yet only one of us can ever be right.

Here’s my source, since you do ask for it. It’s reputable.
https://stanmed.stanford.edu/how-mens-and-womens-brains-are-different/

Please show me your studies that prove otherwise. I would be very interested to see them.

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This society is no longer a patriarchy you know. Women are considered just as equal in rights as men. So much so that when I heard it's been historically different I was genuinely surprised.

the patriarchy itself is gone (except for lingering phenomena such as the gender wage gap), but its effects are lasting.

Real. The debate is good for the algorithm anyway

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Me watching this comment section turn into a war zone

Not rlly much of a warzone just one debate and not even an uncivil one

your nonbinary? good for you.

If you see a group of men talking, they will almost t always be talking about macrotopics (sports, politics, the stock market, etc). If you see a group of women talking, they will almost always be talking about microtopics (conversations, relationships, what so-and-so was wearing, etc).

Well I don’t like generalizing, but I do see a typical differnece and believe they have different mental anadomy for a reason.

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Just gonna say something: women and men have the same brain when they were born. It is how we treat men and women apart from each other that makes them act differently than each other

Very nice and feminist of you, but the truth is, men and women are distinctly different from each other in thinking.

I live in a good Christian community where both men and women are socially accepted as equals, as they should be, but there's still differences, like how girls are more likely to gossip than boys, and men are more action oriented while women are social oriented.

On top of this, girls develop earlier than boys, and as a result, boys are a little behind on girls, a problem that would best be fixed by having boys start one year earlier than girls.

It's most definitely true that men and women should have similar rights and women or men should not be discriminated upon, but the differences are real and that can't be avoided. it's not all nurture, there's still plenty of nature involved.

While your religion is all fine and dandy, again, the patriarchy ( which is dea/dying ) was heavily involved in that religion, and so its effects are going to seem more like just normal things to those that are raised in, and practice that religion, again, not saying your religion is bad, but some things in its culture, have molded, and were molded by the patriachy when it was still powerful, hence having massive social affects on the vast majority of our society. Please consider my words, and have a great day.

Please note, the fact that I'm a Christian has naught to do with the patriarchy. Yes, I know the words you're saying, I've learned way too much on it to deny that. It's true, people's actions are greatly influenced by the community.

The patriarchy is basically dead in certain areas, but my point is that the different actions of women from men still exist after the patriarchy, which, in my area, has been dead long enough that it should bring up boys and girls who are exact same, yet they're not.

Men and women are biochemically different as well, with certain pros and cons to each. For example, men are more likely to be aggressive and take on the role of protector/provider, due to our evolution while women are more likely to take on the role of "at home" doing the more domestic stuff, again due to our evolution and that pregnant women would be bad at hunting, the reason it became normalised to leave them when on a "hunt".

I’ll second that, except for the evolution part, evolution is debatable, but we defitely are this way for a reason,

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Yes, men and women both the same brain when born, and will continue to have the same (ish) brain until puberty, when hormones cause the genuine changes to brain, not the conditioned changes.

Well, it is clear that girls and boys before puberty will seperate, for example, boys will say "no girls allowed". I mean, where does that even come from? Surely it's gotta be nature and not nurture.

But, more or less I would say you are correct. Young boys and girls are a lot more similar than men and women.

When young boys and girls say "No girls/boys allowed", it's more of a playful thing that just signals that they want some time with people they like, even if they say "no girls allowed", they probably won't let someone they don't like in. It's just they want to be with people they like, who are normally the same gender.

It appears that you haven't disproven the difference. You say the boy just being playful, but explain why they protest so much when a girl does come in. If some random boy came in, they'd be fine with it, but a random girl? Not a chance.

Well it's societal pressure I believe. Boys are pressured/conditioned to make friends with other boys (this goes for girls too btw) and as such behind to believe that girls act one way, and boys another, like it's set in stone. And at that moment in time, like I said, they want to have a good time with people, and as such gravitate towards people of their own gender.

Well, yeah, except for that societal pressure is gone. There's nowhere for that thing to come from.

"they want to have a good time with people, and as such gravitate towards people of their own gender" supports my argument.