These days, I would definitely agree, Charles. There is not much remaining that is 'refined' about them. Cultural decay of a devolving society. Let's see how many liberals stop by to defend this disgusting behavior...
It's as if Dem Party voters can't understand that normalizing barbarianism and perversity is equivalent to shoving the working end of a dagger into the kidney of your own nation. Meh . . . so it goes.
It was inevitable, at this defined point... at least according to the great (fictional character) Sheriff Ed Tom Bell from the Cormac McCarthy novel No Country for Old Men.