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I am pretty sure someone on the left must of come up with this idea at some point and most of us never saw it coming. in politics
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Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly. Fascism is a left-wing ideology, it's just right of socialism and communism. But make no mistake it is an extreme left-wing ideology.

It is not now nor has ever been on the right-wing side of the political spectrum. Not even close.

This country was founded on several ideas, one of which set the individual above the government and not the other way around. All of the left-wing ideologies put the government above the individual.

The individual under the Constitution has the right to determine how and what they will do with their own life. This is not true under socialism, communism, fascism or Nazism. None of those political and economic ideologies, inspired by Marx, believe in individual rights. The few rights they might have are given by government.

The American right has absolutely nothing to do with any of those ideologies, not now, not ever. That is not always true when talking about Republicans. Not all Republican are conservatives and not all conservatives are Republicans.

All of the Democrats follow one of those left-wing 4 ideologies, either knowingly or unknowingly.

Fascism has nothing to do with homosexuality. Hitler may have killed homosexuals but only the ones he didn't know. Those in his administration he loved. Mussolini most likely did even think anything about homosexuals.

No one thought favorably about homosexuals back then. It was considered a mental illness by the entire world. It's been that way since the beginning of mankind, up until the last 40 years.

I have no idea where you get the idea that fascism is not an economic system when it is entirely centered on controlling the means of production.

Nationalism is irrelevant. Nationalism is synonymous with patriotism. National socialism is, however, a serious problem. That's what the Nazis were/are. Globalists are trying to scare people with that word.

Nome of your definitions of communism and socialism are correct. Socialism is the gateway drug to communism. They are essentially identical.

They tell you that the collective owns everything but the collective is always controlled by the government. The people own nothing.

Private ownership is essential for freedom. There is no freedom with out it. If the collective owns everything then they own your life. It is the central planners who determine what you can do and if you even are valuable enough to be kept alive.
I am pretty sure someone on the left must of come up with this idea at some point and most of us never saw it coming. in politics
0 ups, 14h
I don't remember the name of the dude who thought up the idea of fascism but he was Italian and he was either friends with or just heavily influenced Benito Mussolini.

Modern definitions of fascism are mostly wrong. Fascism stems from socialism and 20th century socialism has been heavily influenced by Marx.

Modern definitions put fascism and Nazism as extreme right wing ideologies. That is 100% bull crap. They are authoritarian ideologies that have far too much in common with socialism and communism. You can say they are at the extreme right of the authoritarian scale but none of those ideologies allow for the individual to have any political power, rights or freedom.

The extreme right of the political scale is total and complete anarchy. No government whatsoever.

Mussolini, however, was a socialist first, as was Hitler. Both fascism and Nazism were not 180° the opposite of was the used to be. In fact Mussolini thought fascism was the fix to some of the problems he saw in socialism. Hitler was just a jerk, a power hungry control freak. Socialism and then Nazism were just tools he used to gain control of Germany.

Fascism is still about the government controlling the means of production, it's still about shared, not individual, responsibility. It is still about equality of outcome. The difference is that rather than taking ownership of everything, they just took control. Mussolini saw how Lenin almost starved the USSR to death by taking ownership of food production and putting "experts" in charge. Mussolini thought that he should let those who already know how their industry work keep doing their job. However unions were to control production, not management.

Modern 21st century fascism is a little different in that the heads of business work directly with the government to accomplish the goals of the government. In the U.S. businesses can accomplish, for the government, what the Constitution prohibits the government from doing.

That type of fascism started a little bit with Obama but really didn't get a foothold until just before Trump was elected. The system worked against Trump, not for him. The system works for Biden.

This is how conservatives are censored.

These controls on businesses aren't by regulation, they're by mutual cooperation to achieve the same goals.

To regulate (or more accurately, to legislate) would require Congress and they can't get that kind of support from Congress.
I am pretty sure someone on the left must of come up with this idea at some point and most of us never saw it coming. in politics
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Except that is not what we are seeing. Businesses are shutting down or scaling back all over the country. Not every business can move production overseas. Many of them rely entirely on local economies.

Capitalism is not what drives businesses out of the country. It is adverse working conditions. If a business cannot make ends meet because of excessive regulations and/or taxes then in order to continue produce a product they have to move. This is exactly what is happening in California right now.

Capitalism is a term that was coined by Karl Marx. What it was called prior to Marx is the free market. the free market is based on buying and selling goods and/or services. The means of exchange can be a barter or it can be money. But the entire transaction happens without a 3rd party (aka the government). Once the government gets their greedy hands on that transaction the market ceases to be free and so do the people.

Because Marx thought his moronic idea of treating everyone like ants in an ant colony was superior to people acting in their own self-interest he fabricated all sorts of stuff about what capitalism is supposed to be.

And somehow generations later there are people who actually believe businesses control our lives and the government is our savior. I can stand outside of a McDonalds all day long and no one will force me to buy a hamburger. I can actually walk past any store and not buy a single thing.

The only businesses who have any type of control over people are exclusively the ones who march in lockstep with the government. Both Facebook and ImgFlip will punish you if you say something they don't like. YouTube will remove your video and if you have a channel where you have entered into a partnership with YouTube, they will demonetize your channel if you step out of line.

That is NOT capitalism or the free market, that is fascism and fascism was inspired by Marx.
Historians will look back at these times and cry! in politics
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"So, what are some of those changes? the droughts we're going through. The lack of snowfall in the mountains, (which in turn means less water flowing down the mountains because the snow melts)."

So then I didn't wake up this morning with 3" of snow on the ground? IN MAY!!!! I'm not making this up. It started snowing yesterday and it snowed all night long. It was a wet slushy snow but it was still snow and it was in MAY!

I live in Utah. Utah is one of the states that is very drought prone. I can tell you for a fact that this last winter and the previous winter we got more snow in our mountains than what we have gotten in long time. It still wasn't enough to pull us out of the drought that we are in but it did make things better. The Great Salt Lake is still getting smaller but after last spring run off, the depth increased by something like 3 inches (which is a massive amount of water).

"For example, the Colorado river no longer flows to the ocean. All the water is consumed before it gets there. Here's some actual science on it:"

Yes, I know that. We have siphoned off so much water that it stopped reaching the oceans decades ago. California is the cause. They pull millions and millions of gallons of water from the Colorado river for agriculture and to supply Los Angeles with some of it's drinking water. Mexico is pretty pissed at us for that.

Evaporation is not the cause of it no longer reaching the ocean. In case you didn't know this, from Colorado to the Gulf of Mexico has always been a desert. It has always been hot in the summer and by hot I mean 100+ degrees or more. Evaporation has always happened but still the river used to flow to the ocean.

In addition to that the underground water table in Arizona is shrinking. It is NOT evaporating, it is being pulled out because of all of the people that have moved there.

"While it is true that Cambridge was hacked, and their emails released, they were not making numbers up."

They weren't hacked. At least they weren't hacked when those emails got released. It was people on the inside who apparently had a conscience. But oh my goodness. They were just making up numbers. I read some of the emails. And then maybe about a year later more emails were leaked and they were still just making up numbers.

The fact that they were making up numbers is not in question. It actually happened. It happened in the mid to late 2000's, not 1999. It had nothing to do with tree-ring data.
Historians will look back at these times and cry! in politics
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"When has science had to answer to skeptics? Always. It's literally the point of science. You have to prove what you claim. And that proof has to stand up to intense inspection and criticism. That's the peer review process. If any flaw, any flaw, is found in your work, it's tossed out."

Yes, I essentially said that. That's not what I was talking about. Of course scientists always have to address skepticism from other scientists. That is normal. No other science has websites dedicated to trying to convince the skeptical public. No other science attack skeptics by calling them "science deniers". There aren't politicians trying to figure out how to punish people for not believing in the science.

I mean, flat earthers are treated better than those who can see that climate change is just an excuse to dominate mankind. And you gotta be nuts to think the earth is flat.

"There are big bang deniers."

Are they under the same kind of scrutiny as those who wonder what changes in the climate do we need to fear?

"While 1.3 C doesn't sound that much, translate that in to the units your familiar with. That's 34.34 Fahrenheit."

Um... I think you need to rethink your math. That is a 1.3C INCREASE, it is not the global temperature of the earth. That is NOT a 34° F increase, it's about a 2° F increase. If the increase was 34° F do you think we would be having this conversation? NO!!!! No one would be denying a change that massive.

Plus you never answered the question of when that increase took place. What is the starting point? To say the temperature just randomly increase by 1.3° is not telling me anything. At the same time I could just throw out the statement that the earth decreased in global temps by 5°C. It depends on what period of time I am speaking about.

Is that the increase from 500 years ago or 5 minutes ago?

"Because it's hotter, there will be less water for us to drink and water the crops & livestock."

Do you mean we've never experienced droughts before?

How would there be less water? Aren't the polar ice caps supposed to disappear? That means more water. If it evaporates into the atmosphere it eventually accumulates into drops that fall from the sky which would mean more rain. Even if it just mean more humidity, plants can still use that water. That is exactly why the East coast is green and the West coast is a desert.