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Affordable Health Insurance  | SO OBAMACARE WAS PASSED BECAUSE PEOPLE COULDN'T AFFORD HEALTH INSURANCE... BUT THE IRS HEAVILY FINES PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD HEALTH INSURANC | image tagged in memes,third world skeptical kid | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Third World Grumpy Cat | YOU MEAN TO TELL ME MOST HEALTH PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY A LIFETIME OF EATING CRAP AND YOU STILL EXPECT SOMEONE ELSE TO PAY FOR YOUR MEDICINE? | image tagged in third world grumpy cat | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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7 ups
Thats a good meme bro! Strong message!
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10 ups, 1 reply
TAXED ANOTHER POOR AMERICAN IT WAS A GOOD DAY | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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2 ups, 1 reply
Classic!
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2 ups
Thanks! Although it feels weird commenting cause I'm actually Canadian. I try to avoid politics, but I'm looking at it, and thinking it sounds crazy!
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8 ups, 2 replies
Its true, they caught me between jobs/plans.
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10 ups, 1 reply
Am I The Only One Around Here Meme | THE VA HEALTH CARE.... BAILED ME OUT OF FINES! | image tagged in memes,am i the only one around here | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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6 ups, 1 reply
Too bad we don't get health care from them too
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5 ups, 1 reply
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4 ups
Thanks for your help. :)
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5 ups, 1 reply
Assuming you were covered by a plan at work, might want to check, you likely do not owe any fine as long as you got coverage when employed again:
https://www.healthcare.gov/health-coverage-exemptions/forms-how-to-apply/
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2 ups, 1 reply
The new employer was a small company that stopped offering any plans. This is the trap,
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4 ups
If your employer does not offer plans, you are eligible to use the exchange. If your cost of the lowest silver plan on the exchange is more than about 9.5% of your income, you will not be fined for not having insurance. There are quite a lot of exemptions-- if you show you made an attempt, and were insired at your previous employer, you very likely will not owe a penalty. It has been pretty easy for people to get exemptions, unless they make about two to three times poverty level and do not make a real attempt to get insured.
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3 ups
Like! Worth posting!
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7 ups, 1 reply
Tell me where I'm wrong here, if the fine is $XXX and purchasing a healthcare plan is $XXXX, some people are just saying

"F**k it, I'll pay a fine in the hundreds of dollars instead of purchasing a plan in the thousands of dollars. I'm young and healthy and if I do get sick or hurt I can waltz into clinic and be seen anyhow."

Great business model there, they really thought that one through.

I think that it's a vast left wing conspiracy...f**k up Obamacare so badly that when HRC or the Bern get elected some people will gladly throw away their last shred of dignity for a single payer universal payer plan.
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5 ups, 2 replies
You nailed it! But the IRS gets to decide your fine. ... and can seize it when they want. See the comment above by renegade_sith? Had dental work done that needed to get done,.. then gets screwed on a fine.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Got it, I didn't realize that the fine system was so abusive. BIG SURPRISE!
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5 ups, 1 reply
"We have to pass it to find out whats in it!"
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4 ups, 1 reply
Like opening Pandora's box!

We're from the Government, we're here to help!

You are all too stupid or lazy to take care of yourselves. We know what is best for you!
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6 ups, 2 replies
The reason I prep! Govt has screwed up everything they are in charge of... uses the irs to bail them out. US Post office.. VA,... SSN benefits,.. etc. The only thing I see the govt do well,... increase and run welfare programs.
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5 ups, 1 reply
Yeah, I don't know if you saw it, but I got in a flame war with a libtroll about what the U.S. Government is constitutionally set up to do as opposed to how much BS it is actually doing.

The flame war started with my concise two line comment and I got the 5,000 word essay about how we'd all shit our own pants if nanny government weren't there to wipe our asses. RIDICULOUS!
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3 ups, 2 replies
Was it njrob? He can write essays!
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5 ups, 1 reply
No, it was TylerPhoenix, about 3/4 of the way down on this meme https://imgflip.com/i/yf8rw?nerp=1454731342#com481562

I might submit the one that I made of Kennedy and Reagan there. It's funny if you think about it, those two weren't too far apart, but libtrolls wouldn't admit that. What a difference the 20 years between those two make and the thirty years post-Reagan make.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Oh yeah,... familiar with that user! You're good though! Id want you on my team if I were in the debate club!
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5 ups
And I'd want you on my team if we were in a bar fight!
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2 ups
????
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4 ups, 1 reply
The military is run by the government.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Case in point, we have a deployed military run by politically correct lawyers with rules of engagement dictated by politicians.
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2 ups
If you were a lawyer... id hire you! I have 3 buddies that took early retirement for that very reason.. rules of engagement were so f#kkd up. Under fire.. requesting information to return fire! This is a PC military that puts more soldiers lives at risk than ever before.
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3 ups, 2 replies
PS - Did you see this one? I about fell outa my chair https://imgflip.com/i/yovw3
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4 ups
Bar fights would be easier than flame wars! Ha ha ha!
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3 ups
Brand new user too,... 1st meme per profile. Liked anyway!
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7 ups, 1 reply
Lol, I made a meme about the same thing today but I think it made somebody mad lol. Glad to see yours got through at least! Haha
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4 ups, 1 reply
We're on the same team for sure bro! =)
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5 ups, 2 replies
Yeah man... I got hit with the fine lol. It's such BS... I just had to pay for 3 wisdom teeth to be removed out of pocket, and then I get hit with a fine for something I couldn't afford... It's unamerican. I don't remember obama mentioning any fines when he was pushing obamacare... Such a crook lol.
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4 ups
You should look into the exemptions-- people who can't afford it can get exemptions pretty easily, unless they make 2-3 times the poverty level and did not even try to get insurance. If the lowest silver plan in your state was more than about 9.5% of your income, you are exempt, for example. There are a lot of hardship exemptions-- for example, if your rent/mortgage payment/set bills overall take a larger part of your income than the average person's does.
https://www.healthcare.gov/health-coverage-exemptions/forms-how-to-apply/
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5 ups, 1 reply
Your fine,.... signed up another ISIS inspired refugee on obamacare!
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4 ups
Hahaha yeah probably!
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1 up
Bro... post it.. let me know... so I can comment 1st!
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5 ups, 2 replies
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3 ups
https://www.healthcare.gov/health-coverage-exemptions/forms-how-to-apply/
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4 ups, 1 reply
Your insurance didn't go up 300% unless your employer stopped paying for part, or your coverage changed quite a bit (i.e., you did not really have "insurance" before, just limited catastrophic coverage).. Not a single plan in this nation has gone up anywhere near that much, ever, even over 5 years or more. If you make too much to get Medicaid you still can get subsidies if your employer does not offer plans, unless you make a lot more than the poverty level.
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4 ups
What I'm saying is the price paid to the insurance company did not go up 300% for that or any same as before apples-to-apples plan-- what likely happened is your employer did the douche thing and cut what they paid. That is not a result of the ACA but is employer being a douche and taking advantage. Prices of plans go up an average of 0 to 10% a year. For example, if you were paying $150 a month and it went to $450, most of that $300 increase is money your employer used to pay toward the plan.
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3 ups
As an example, almost every state has a silver plan for which the average single person making $30k or so a year would pay about $80-160 a month after subsidies, 3-6% of income.
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3 ups, 1 reply
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1 up
Perfect!
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2 ups, 1 reply
https://www.facebook.com/Minarchyball/photos/a.888126371285684.1073741828.888121307952857/914064802025174/?type=3&permPage=1
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5 ups, 1 reply
I tried to open,.. and then copy and paste,.. couldnt access it bro.
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9 ups, 1 reply
It works for me.
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3 ups
Roflmfao! "Didnt feel the bush either" ha ha ha!
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That could be a meme worth submitting! Like!
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4 ups, 2 replies
No it taxes those that CAN afford it and choose to be irresponsible and not purchase it.
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7 ups, 1 reply
Which is illegal, despite what the SCOTUS said.
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2 ups
Whaa.
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2 ups, 3 replies
No, it fines those who don't choose to purchase an illegal insurance or those who just don't want a government ran health care service. I'm taking the $695 fine because it's far cheaper for me to pay that than to actually be on it.
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3 ups, 1 reply
So it was not illegal for centuries until these idiots said so? It's a CASH GRAB.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Constitutionly speaking, Obama care is illegal.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Jeez after 50+ repeal attempts you'd think it would be proven.
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3 ups
It is proven. Obama has already shown that he does what he wants. And republicans and the rest of the cronies aren't going to stand in his way cause there's money to be made. But I know the constitution and socialized health care is not constitutional.
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4 ups, 2 replies
Do you have enough money to cover your ass in case you come down with a debilitating disease or accident? Or are you just going to let the taxpayers pay it off for you when you get care at the ER and the hospitals write it off? I hope you're going to be responsible and self sufficient and pay it off with your own money.

Not having insurance is irresponsible....

Didn't you say your wife is blind from diabetes or something? How does she pay all her medical bills?
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3 ups, 2 replies
Not that my personal affairs are any of your business, but yes, she is covered just fine. For me, however, if I were to have something go wrong with me and I had to go to the ER I will be fine.

The tax payers paying for me? Really? What do you think Obama care is all about, anyway? Who do you think is pay for that? A few billionaires hidden away in their mansions? No, the tax payers.

And I never said I didn't have insurance.
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4 ups, 1 reply
If you have insurance you don't pay the fine. Are you clear on what's going on here?

As for taxpayers ...yes I understand taxes subsidize those that can't afford paying the premiums. I'm ok with that because at least they'll be covered. And have actual insurance....taxpayers don't pay the entire bill as they do when hospitals "write off" the losses from uninsured people that rack up monstrous bills.
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2 ups, 1 reply
I suppose I wasn't clear on how I worded my first comment. I meant to say that if I had to choose between paying the fine and paying for the Obama care insurance, I'll pay the fine.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Sure $695 is cheaper than insurance (if you don't qualify for a subsidy) but you DON'T HAVE INSURANCE. If someone opts out and pays the fine and then racks up a huge $100,000+ medical bill....insurance looks a whole lot cheaper.
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4 ups, 2 replies
It isn't about what you'll owe and what you won't. It's about what type of control and how much control the government has on its citizens. The illegal practices and over reaching the government has on its citizens. This is something the left will never understand. Socialized government and socialized insurance DOES NOT WORK. Again, something the left will never understand.
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4 ups
true....and the left still idolizes Obama even after he flat out lied to everyone about the cost.
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4 ups, 2 replies
Tell that to every other successful country in the world
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2 ups, 1 reply
Every successful country? Name one.
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Denmark
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2 ups, 1 reply
Denmark? Wanna know why they're successful? The DPP took over.. they went right... dumped all that leftist ideology. Great example! ;)
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They're socialist and have socialized medicine and education.
How about Germany? Canada? The UK? How about virtually any modern western country?

The statement was "Socialized government and socialized insurance DOES NOT WORK."

That's nonsense. You know it, I know it.
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2 ups, 1 reply
And I'm willing to bet your wife is on some sort of tax funded insurance program but that's another meme.
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2 ups, 2 replies
Why do you support obama.. i mean really? He just a said unemployment is below 5%.. but we have 93M on welfare, assistance etc. How does that math work for you to accept that and argue for this admin. Can you defend obama w/o blaming someone else.. or calling someone a racist. .. and defend his policies on immigration, the debt, foriegn policy, military reductions, border security etc... for his 8 yrs in office. . And say he moved the country forward? Seriously?
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4 ups, 1 reply
I support obama because gop policies do not help working class people. Period. I started the young republicans in my high school over 20 years ago. Since then I have come to the realization the gop is full of shit when it comes to working class people and their well being. Working people (and the wealthy) do better under democrat policies. My 401k bounced back since 2008. Just one example.

Obama is just the latest democrat president. He had a huge mess to clean up and I think given the situation he has done a great job. I know you'll find the numbers sewed or slanted or otherwise NOT true (unless they are painting obama negatively like food stamps) but here they are:

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/01/obamas-numbers-january-2016-update/
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3 ups, 2 replies
Working class seems to be your priority concern. Is national security. . Cutting military.. negotiating w/terrorist, .. allowing immigrants in that the FBI says contains isis fighters in our borders.. the $19T debt alarm you at all? Be honest.. I'm very objective on what I see.. and I'm concerned for the direction of the country. You do agree the US has less respect around the world now and far less influence. I heard two students talking about voting for Bernie.. because they don't like wealthy people.. and want to dump their student loans. That was it. How ignorant and selfish is what I thought. It's about them... no clue about other issues.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Our military budget...even when cut...is huge. We will be fine if the GOP policy of constant war is stopped. We need to take care of the vets thst come home to a failed VA system among other mistreatments. We spent (so far) a trillion dollars on a plane that doesn't fly. Its crony capitalism via military.

The debt is not a huge concern but could be righted with economic policies that put Americans to work with real living wages. Bernie is supportive of that. He's also the ONLY candidate publicly calling for an audit of the Fed. Interesting right?

Our foreign policy has been rather shitty since raegan. But....I think we're seen as a more rational leader on the world stage as opposed to a war hungry imperialist machine under Bush. As far as letting in immigrants....past president let in more and sent less back. But we do need to screen people from hostile areas better. I'll give you that.
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Huge military budget,.. does not mean "adequate" military budgets. New threats require meeting whatever the budget requires to keep the country safe,... developing whatever technology necessary etc. The budget was slashed against advice of those in charge of keeping us safe. . by an imbecile never served a day in the military... and has systematically gotten rid of conservative minded commanders. Google it. I see a pattern of attacks under liberal presidents,... NOT conservative presidents. Got any info to counter that?
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Hey, invicta. Took care of that troll for you. Hes currently in the hospital, suffering from seventh degree burns he sustained during the flame duel between us. Scroll to the bottom if you wanna check it out!
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2 ups, 1 reply
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2 ups
LMAO!!!!! You do too bro,... INFORMED MEMERS!
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3 ups, 1 reply
Except.. that 35.4% includes employed people (see: Walmart workers, ertc.).
That's the problem with the radical right's position on this-- claims of "too many people on welfare" but then 1) against minimum wage (thus making welfare a subsidy program for businesses like Walmart),2) also against safety net (safety net shores up wages from freefall into feudalism) and 3) against the very wealthy paying a fair tax rate (the top 0.1% pay a lower tax rate than those who make 1/10th as much, the top .001% pay half the rate of those who make 1/3000th as much), which would encourage hiring and wage support.

PS-- you are confused if you think this is a "liberal" meme-- it's a factual meme. I am middle of the road, I correct mistakes whether made by the radical right or the radical left... it's just that the radical right has been falsifying more since 2009, whereas the radical left had the lie lead 2001-2008... it usually is the side opposite of whichever is President that lies the most at that time
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3 ups
That's good, that's why I said " if" and not "since"-- you started talking a lot about "lib memes" in that reply, which gave the impression you thought it was.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Also, another factual error I noticed: your source is an article from 2015 using data from... 2012. The usual modus operandi of a propaganda site (examples: right wing version = DailyCaller, left = MotherJones)--starting with a desired end in mind then looks for data to support it.
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3 ups
Except you won't find such stats or data at respectable sources and in full-- that's the difference. You will find cherrypicked propaganda like the Conservative tribune article above.The complete and unbiased data is online for all to see at BLS.gov and Census.gov.

What is going on is the radical right pretending that the unemployment numbers are bad (they are the best they've been in 8years, since Feb. 2008). The radical right propaganda machine cannot stand to give any credit to Obama, whether it is over employment or gas prices (they gave him the blame when they were high), or the now lower safety net expenses. It's the same as the radical left being unwilling to accept that "free college for all" is not an economic possibility-- people get wrapped up in their desires and ignore the reputable facts.

It's not a point for debate-- employment has improved tremendously since 2008-2009, and it is not part-time hires (average hours worked per worker is up, see BLS.gov). So memes like the one inside the meme I made, railing about 94 million people not working, are easily proven ridiculous with the data, all of it, from the unbiased sources.
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2 ups
Ha ha... taxpayers are paying for 93M peeps under this administration.
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3 ups
I'm avoiding fine... covered by VA. We had to seriously adjust our insurance. . To keep payments reasonable. Many may have been helped... more were hurt.
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1 up
Rofl! Yeah... we can trust the IRS!
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2 ups, 1 reply
i feel this pain. being self-employed at the moment, my "affordable care act" premium ended up being 3 times the amount i was paying before ... and that's after endlessly jumping through the hoops of the "marketplace" to get "assistance".
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2 ups, 1 reply
Bro,...! Why are you going through my memes? If you disagree with me politically,.. I don't understand what you are accomplishing here? My profile says I am a conservative,.. so why would you waste your time on memes you do not agree with? There are more liberal users that you would enjoy commenting with... I don't understand. I was humble as a new user,.. I did not look to flame anyone,... or challenge anyone,.. nor leave negative comments,.. nor continue to comment if I made a mistake. What's on your mind... ? If I can help I will,.. but this is strange for a new user to do this.
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uh ... 1) why do i have to explain myself to you, you the imgflip police? 2) why do you assume i'm "liberal", because i happen to actually respect the opinions of others, that aren't inline with my own, instead of bullying them into agreeing with you? 3) you don't know s**t about me, son. Put your hand down youngin', this ain't for you. 4) who cares what you did as a new user, NOT EVERYONE IS YOU, and why do you even care that "this is strange for a new user to do this", again, are you the imgflip police? 5) i'm not your typical man of faith and family, k? I have the ability to create original thoughts, and think critically. 6) most of what i don't agree with your creations isn't your political beliefs ... it's that IMHO, I find it to be unoriginal regurgitations of 30 sec sound bites and they are the emotional/intellectual/spiritual equivalent of standing in a fast-food restaurant contemplating what looks good out of all the crap that is on the "super value" menu.

Though, admittedly, you do make some nice gems from time-to-time. :) Kudos...
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2 ups, 1 reply
What'd you just call my friend? A youngin? Stand back, invicta, the flamin's bout to get real hot..
First of all. I am the imgflip police(i wish)
Second. Saying you respect other peoples opinions is like saying you dont breath. Its a lie, stupid.
Third. we do know something about you. You are a hypocritical, stupid, repost lovin, illogical, troll, who probably is sitting in its mothers basement, trying to ruin peoples lives(and failing at it). We also know that you need to shut the heck up, mister hippo hypocrite.
Fourth. not everyone is invicta? No durr. Not everyone makes as good of memes as him!
Fifth. you have the ability to create original thoughts, and think critcally? Is that all you learned in school? 2 things? Hello, mister myheadissteelthick.
Sixth. you have really bad grammar.
Seventh. If invictas the guy looking at the crap on the menu at restraunts, then youre the 3 ton pedophile hiding behind the trash cans.
Eight. you cant just go all full blown, calling someone stupid, and expect a nice comment ender to make up for it all.
So go find another cave in another meme site, mister troll.
Oh, by the way, your probably going to try to respond witfully.
==>TRY<==
Sincerely, the bat out of hell who just handed you your burnt butt.
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*cheep-cheep-cheep* *cheep-cheep-cheep*

is that a nest of baby birds i hear? their necks all stretched ... mouths wide open ... waiting for the pre-chewed words and phrases to spit into their mouths.

*daw* they so cute.

*cheep-cheep-cheep* *cheep-cheep-cheep*
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1 up, 1 reply
"My friend you're weighed in the balance and found wanting
Your kingdom is divided, it can't stand
You are weighed in the balance and found wanting
Your houses are built upon the sand"
- "Belshazzar" - Johnny Cash
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1 up, 1 reply
Also book of Daniel. I encourage you to read it sometime.
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2 ups
But seriously, whats with the birds?
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0 ups
For a new user.. you sure know how to make friends. I already saw other users making comments about you. Now everyone knows you are a muslim radical. We're you kicked off other meme sites and decided to try this one? You should try being more friendly... radical extremist attitudes don't do well on this site. You sound like you're from croatia.. or bosnia.
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