My parents taught me to respect police.

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YOU'RE A COP. IT'S 3:00 AM. A SCUMBAG POINTS ONE OF THESE AT YOU. YOU ASK YOURSELF, IS IT A BB GUN OR IS IT REAL? TOO LATE, YOU'RE DEAD! | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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DOESN'T PUT HIS HANDS WHERE YOU CAN SEE THEM WHEN ASKED REPEATEDLY IS HE TRYING TO HIDE HIS DRUGS, OR DOES HE HAVE A GUN? | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
No kidding! I'm sick of this sympathy towards criminals and unrealistic demands on cops
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Rakist | THAT IS RAKIST | image tagged in rakist | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Had to look "rakist" up...Urban dictionary has two definitions for it, one's a way to call someone awesome, another is a way to call someone a racist.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Or sitting in a squadcar in Philly...
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9 ups, 2 replies
Yeah, that was some real shit. Prayers for his swift recovery! The powers that be will probably tag it as "workplace violence" rather than "Islamic terror".

Once again, no amount of gun control laws kept a C R I M I N A L* intent on M U R D E R* from obtaining a S T O L E N* gun.

*I typed these words slowly because I know that there are some people out there that aren't too quick.
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5 ups, 1 reply
My cousin was a state trooper in 70s, after a few years he had to quit, the late night traffic stops got to be too much for him. Walking up to another car in that situation not knowing if he would get shot, or have to shoot was too nerve wracking. People do not understand what it takes to do that job day to day and keep a cool head. Yes there are cops that shouldn't be cops and they need to be weeded out. There needs to be more of a culture of support for these guys instead of this culture of tearing them down.
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Spot on!
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3 ups, 1 reply
Gun laws do work, in fact, banning guns works even better. It worked in Australia. I myself think banning guns is over the top, but gun control helps keep gun violence down.
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2 ups, 2 replies
Read my words in caps one more time, a bit more slowly. Criminals don't obey L A W S.
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3 ups, 2 replies
Let me spell it out for you. What we have here is what happens when we make gun laws: gun deaths go down. In Australia in 1996/97, there were 319 homicides, and 104 were from guns. In 2013, there were 216 homicides, and 35 were from guns. Do you see the pattern yet?
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3 ups, 1 reply
You also get crappy beer. Besides, didn't Mad Max have a gun?
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And this is important why? Seriously, unless you can come up with a good counter-argument, this conversation is pretty much over.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Thank God!????
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Nailed it
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1 up, 1 reply
Did Australia not reverse most of those gun laws?
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2 ups, 2 replies
No, I'm pretty sure they're still in effect today. Even if they did repeal the laws, we can still see that they had a profound impact on homicides, reducing them by a big amount.
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3 ups, 1 reply
They are in effect and updating them for 3D printed guns and whatnot. The problem in America is there is roughly 1 gun for every citizen. This means it will be impossible for them to see results like Australia without major restrictions.
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3 ups, 1 reply
That would be a problem... But gun laws are a step forward.
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Yes, but the effect won't be significant enough to convince congress for a very long time.
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Australia and its laws has nothing to do with the U.S. Constitution.
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2 ups, 1 reply
That's not the point. The point here is that gun laws work.
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Ok, well then here.....
http://world.time.com/2012/12/20/the-swiss-difference-a-gun-culture-that-works/
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I would reply to you most recent comment, but we have maxed the chain.
“We will never change our attitude about the responsible use of weapons by law-abiding citizens,” says Hermann Suter. This is what gun control is for: to give law-abiding citizens guns and keep them out of the hands of people who are criminals. "...the country’s existing laws regulating the sale, ownership and licensing of private guns, which includes a ban on carrying concealed weapons..." Switzerland has regulations like the Obama administration wants.
All this was taken from the article. Switzerland works because they have good rules and regulations.
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We already have these rules and regulations. what we don't have is the training and Government support of weapons...I'm up for that :)
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Then why do we have them?
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You're a homeowner. It's 3 AM. Someone bursts through your door with a rifle. Is it a scumbag or is it a cop who got a warrant because he found tea leaves in your trash can and convinced a judge that you're a pot dealer?
If you guess wrong either way, you could easily be dead.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Nice try, stay on topic please.
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It is on topic. If he's a scumbag, you need to point a weapon at him quickly. If he's a cop, doing that will get you killed and written off as a criminal even though all you were doing was reacting to someone waking you up by kicking in your door.
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Look at the original meme and my reply meme as well. Both are about what cops have to deal with, not homeowners.
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And I am responding with an increasingly common reason why a police officer might find a weapon pointed at him. I'm afraid this isn't a simple "thin blue line" world we live in.
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maybe parenting laws would help
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5 ups, 1 reply
This really happened to me as I was leaving work and locking the building up.
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But you were not shot. And had it been a gun you would have. Can you blame them for being on edge? I'm just thankful for the well trained ones. And scared find earth if the ones who have 15 clip full metal jacket ammo and no training ( NYC)
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3 ups
my parents taught me to respect police too, but police taught me about corruption and discrimination
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4 ups
I've said it before. The term is called "Suicide by Cop."
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4 ups, 2 replies
Actually, the object does not have to resemble a weapon, nor does the police officer need to see the object being pointed in their direction to justify shooting their weapon at the suspect. If a police officer gives a command, it is important the individual follows the command. If the command is not being followed, it is taken as a sign of aggression.

If you have a problem with the way you are being treated, it is a wise move to fight it in the courts, not in the street while having a gun being pointed in your direction, with the police officer's finger on the trigger.
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3 ups, 2 replies
Cops are paid to risk their lives; they don't get to just shoot anybody to be safe.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Police officers are paid to enforce the laws of the community and to do the best they can in protecting its citizens from anyone who is willing to break those laws.

And protecting themselves from harm is also their right, just as with anyone of us have that right. If it means having to use their weapon, then that is their right.
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How are those dickheads in Oregon so deftly able avoid being shot? If you knew you were going to have a run-in with a cop today, would you have any preference as to what race you are? I sure as f**k would.
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In most places it certainly does not matter what race I am.

Now I know you didn't just tell me that the only reason the ranchers in Oregon aren't being shot is due to their skin color.
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Yes, I am. They aren't facing any consequences at all so far.
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Any consequences for what, exactly?
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Destruction of government property, theft of government equipment, trespassing, treason, etc. All the things they'd be guilty of were they not white.
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Race had nothing to do with this and it's disturbing to think there are those who interject race into everything like this.
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0 ups, 1 reply
It's disturbing anyone could think race isn't involved, but an essential element of privilege is being unaware of it.
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It has less to do with race and more to do with the amount of money involved or the amount of money someone has.
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0 ups, 1 reply
So you seem to be implying that those in Oregon should be shot.
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1 up, 1 reply
I'm implying they probably would be were they not white.
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0 ups, 1 reply
In Waco and Ruby Ridge, the full wrath of the government was felt by way of full on assault on white people. At wounded knee it was Native Americans. In Baltimore and Ferguson no lives were lost to police action while businesses were looted and burned to the ground.
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2 ups, 3 replies
Waco and Ruby Ridge? Yes, on occasion the authorities get it right. That does not negate the pattern of police killing unarmed minorities while giving heavily armed white folks the benefit of the doubt. Your examples are noteworthy b/c they are rare.
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On occasion they get it right? Are you implying that if white people are burned alive and shot at, the government (FBI) get it right? If white people aren't shot, they get it wrong? That sounds aberrantly racist.
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No. I feel the actions of the government were completely warranted on those occasions without any regard to the race of the criminals.
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Got it right? If you honestly believe those were examples of getting it right, then I guess Ferguson and Baltimore where examples of getting it wrong.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Remember the MOVE bombing? No? Oh.
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Yes I do... yet another example of getting it VERY VERY wrong. I don't want to see a body count anywhere. Even in Oregon.
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Police are human beings with all sorts of human failings. They are paid civil servants not commandos or mercenaries.
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3 ups, 1 reply
I'm slightly hard of hearing. How does that figure in for the trigger happy? Trigger happy seems to be the problem. But the officer also doesnt want to be shot either. It's a matter of good judgement.
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2 ups, 2 replies
Being "trigger happy" is a separate issue. I was referring to someone being shot or being thrown to the ground because the individual(s) refused to comply with the police officer and his(her) command.

The problem is more with our society and it's "thug entitlement" thought process. "I didn't do anything wrong, therefore you have no right to detain me and if you do I will make sure you pay and lose your job."
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We both are responding to two different subjects in this problem. I see and respect what you say. But if I don't immediately react to a command. I didn't hear it. So that does give the officer the right to shoot. Under the way you stated it. That's why I say it's a matter of judgement the officer needs to make
Not just start shooting. Yes it's a scary stessful job. That's why only those who can do a proper job should have the job.
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Your parents are myopic and prejudicial based on their limited experience in life. Or is my sarcasm alarm broken?
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Got it.. Hey that's sexist! ;-)
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4 ups, 1 reply
Police do not carry guns to protect you. Police carry guns to protect themselves
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...Or you from someone else.
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2 ups, 1 reply
They seem unable to shoot white people even knowing they have firearms pointed at them.
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Kelly Thomas was white, but I guess he wasn't shot, either.
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2 ups, 1 reply
One case? Yes, cops shoot white people too, at about 1/3 the rate of black people per capita. These same assholes aimed automatic rifles at federal agents at the Bundy ranch; no deaths, no shootings, no arrests.
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2 ups, 1 reply
preach
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Maybe we're the same people too?
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3 ups, 1 reply
People complain about police randomly attacking people in their cars and stuff, but really police are trying to protect themselves too. Maybe the person was reaching in their pockets or glove box. The police don't want to get shot at.
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2 ups, 2 replies
Maybe better gun laws would help.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Doesn't matter. Half the guns on the street are stolen from legitimate gun owners. If a criminal wants a gun they'll get one.
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2 ups, 2 replies
If you lose a gun like that you're not worthy of owning a gun.
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9 ups, 1 reply
Oh really! So, if someone steals your wallet you are not worthy of owning a wallet! If someone steals your pain meds, you are not worthy of your prescription drugs? So, instead of blaming the thief and making him responsible for his actions, you want to blame the victim and say he isn't worthy....typical liberal thinking!
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If wallets could kill people sure. I blame the irresponsible owner and the "thief"
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8 ups, 1 reply
"irresponsible" gun owner? So, if a gun owner is at work and some thug breaks in his house or car and steals his gun, he is an irresponsible gun owner?
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4 ups, 1 reply
Yeah, you don't lose this argument. I agree with you whole heartedly.
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6 ups, 1 reply
drugs kill people....you skipped over that one :) Let's lock the little old lady up who didn't secure her drugs from a low life criminal.
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2 ups, 2 replies
Except drugs kill by choice of the person taking them. Guns murder people that have no say in the matter.

Face it. You lose. Again.
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6 ups, 1 reply
Oh shucks! I forgot that guns choose to murder people :)
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1 up, 2 replies
Right. Throw pill or wallets and try to kill someone. Not as effective.
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pills kill more people than guns..wallets just get people killed
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0 ups, 1 reply
Pretty sure that when my wife's friend was beaten to death in college, the cocaine that his murderer was on had something to do with it.
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Except cocaine is illegal. And also we can't blame inanimate objects like guns or cocaine for the actions of people.

Pretty sure the cocaine didn't jump off the table and up the killers nose.
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Ok...so do guns.
We are on the same page.

Good talk.
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Here's the twist- I mostly favor drug legalization.
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Drugs can contribute to harming others, is the point
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3 ups, 1 reply
This is called "blaming the victim."
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2 ups, 2 replies
No, blaming the person that gets shot with a gun st o length by an irresponsible gun owner would be laing the victim.

If a gun owner habitually "loses" guns or if a gun owner can't get proper storage for their gun(s) and they get stolen....then they are not fit to own guns.
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5 ups, 2 replies
If a person has his property stolen from him, he is a victim of theft. Period.
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4 ups, 2 replies
If you leave your kid in an unlocked car while you shop and the get kidnapped you're an unfit parent.
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3 ups, 1 reply
There's a qualitative difference between a child and a chattel.
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2 ups, 7 replies
I think there's a qualitative difference between a television and a implement of death. So we're on the same page.

Good talk.
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No. It's not. People dont deserve to be **ped, shot, drugged....they dont have a choice in the matter. Not that anyone "deserves" to get robbed but if you dont keep your gun locked up (by choice) and it gets stolen your a bad gun owner and shouldn't have guns ESPECIALLY if that gun(s) winds up as a weapon in a crime.

People choose to be irresponsible gun owners. You're deflecting who is the actual "victim" in gun crimes. You know it. Everyone reading this knows it. But you can't bring yourself to agree with my points because it doesn't fit your narrative.
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Why don't gun shops keep guns loose on racks like clothes or electronics at a department store?

Because they're not.
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So say a provocatively dressed woman accepts a drink from "Bob Crosby," whatever happens next is her fault?
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No, that's blaming the victim, silly.

Now if bob Crosby stole a gun from John smith because john smith leaves his gun on a table loaded in plain sight and bob Crosby shoots someone with said gun then I'd say john smith should be held responsible in some capacity for the death of the victim
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The logic is the same. Either the victim of a crime bears some responsibility for it, or she does not.
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Who says there has to be only one victim? A thief stole the gun, creating a victim - the owner. Then someone used the gun to hurt another person, creating more victims - the person he attacked and those who care about him.
The gun owner could have secured his property better - there is, after all, always something more you can do to secure an item - and the murder victim could have been more aware of his surroundings, reinforced his door, not gone to a bad area, etc.
I've often maintained that a woman has the moral right to walk unmolested naked down a dark alley. Just so, I have the moral right to keep my attractive property even if I leave it in plain view in my front yard. In both cases, a different moral agent made the choice to do something wrong to a person who was doing what was within his or her rights.
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I expect it is a combination of things:
1) They are exercising a good amount of prudence because they acknowledge bad people are out there, and
2) The law, in a fit of victim blaming because guns are scary, requires them to.
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oh, so now only if your house or car is unlocked are you an irresponsible gun owner? I wonder how many murders are committed by guns taken from unlocked houses and unlocked cars. I am sure there are some...but, I think that number would be rather low. Those people would still be victims of theft because the law still recognizes that items inside your car or inside your house are yours and not free for the taking.
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If me or someone I cared about go shot I'm 100% blaming the one who did the shooting. I don't care if it was stolen from someone who left it in the driver's seat in the middle of an unlocked car in the worst neighborhood in Detroit, the person who did the shooting is to blame.
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I see this time you inserted 'habitually "loses" ' . A phrase not used in your first statement and a phrase that does change the context. A victim of a B&E is not a "habitual gun loser." Someone that "loses" guns on multiple occasions would be a black market dealer.
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Or murder laws? Or **pe laws? That argument should really be scrapped. That cannot be the best you've got.
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Ok them too. But I was replying to a comment about guns:
"People complain about police randomly attacking people in their cars and stuff, but really police are trying to protect themselves too. Maybe the person was reaching in their pockets or glove box. The police don't want to get shot at."

Better **pe and murder laws may not help keep guns out of criminals hands.
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I thought you were being sarcastic. My bad. Carry on! :)
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Little Girl. Put your weapon down or you will be shot. Oh....too late. She's dead.
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The cop feared for his life. She was running AWAY from him with SOMETHING in her hand.
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Mozzarella sticks and Samuel Jackson.. They go good together
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*Imma
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Yeah, I wouldn't advise that. It won't only be the warrior cops that shoot you but the others as well.
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