Whose side is this guy on?

Funny how the shooting happened in a state with some of the strictest gun control laws that didn't prevent it and yet Obama responds to it by saying we need stricter gun control laws to prevent shootings.

Eleminating guns will only encourage domestic terrorists to build bombs.

And lets not mention who leads the nation in murders and armed robbery... Good ole Chicago.

yep

I know this is probably going in deaf men's ears, but randomly bombing shit isn't going to solve the core problem of terrorrism. Hell, that's been your standard go-to response to everything in the past, and look at how well that's turned out for you. Will you please, for the good of the world, learn from the past for once?
I agree ISIS needs to be stopped and of course lethal force will be necessary for that. But the reactions from Russia and France are doing a lot of harm, maybe even more harm than good. They've rushed into large-scale bombings in an ill-advised attempt to "look strong", no doubt with huge political agendas. (Especially Hollande in France needed to show he's not the "soft weakling" the opposition wants everyone to believe him to be.) The problem is not only that these bombings aren't damaging ISIS as much as you might think, it's that the rush of execution is causing far too much collateral damage, making the people (especially the young people) in the bombed regions traumatized and highly susceptible to anti-Westernism. We already have an image of paternizing assholes out there (arguably rightly so), let's not make it worse. Colonial times are still not that long ago for some of the countries ISIS and their affiliates are active in, and they're making full use of any remnant feelings of resentment towards the West.
Our current meddlings are not helping to turn those feelings around. Imagine if China were to start bombing your country because they don't like the way it's being run? They might be absolutely right (like we might be about democracy being better than dictatorship) but that's not going to change the fact you'll grow to dislike the Chinese because of their "we know better" attitude. Especially if e.g. your loved ones died from a Chinese bomb dropped on the wrong target.

Stop trying to make this into a simple issue, because it's not. And it's definitely not about who has the bigger guns (or balls). That's caveman thinking.

Good thought, but that analogy was bad. China bombing us because they dislike the way we run things is far from the situation with ISIS. If we were executing Chinese, Buddhists, or whatever their biggest religion is, then they would have a good reason to bomb us. If we were executing our citizens on the streets because they dislike the president, or blaspheming against Science, (I would say God, but people worship science now) then i'd say they had rights to bomb us. Although, there are much better ways than bombing.

It's not an analogy for the current situation with ISIS. Our meddling started way before they even came into the picture. One might even say our meddling made room for them in the picture.

We get along great with Japan.

That sound like something Donald Trump would say :)

It's true. Blew them to hell and now they make wacky game shows. They aren't trying to exact revenge on the U.S..

i personal thought we should have blown isis to kingdom kum last year when we had a chance but no now this shit is happining i agree with you

You know it's all just a ploy, right? You don't really believe there isn't something behind-the-scenes? There's something bigger happening... Not simply "oil" but much worse. We bomb ISIS, yes... But, most of our bombs drop in empty desert, and most of our fighter bombers come back with a full payload. It's a cover to make us THINK we are actually trying, but in reality, the puppeteer of both the US and Russia is masterminding a world-changing plan. A plan to keep the Old World Order in power, a plan to enslave us all, a plan to alter our entire world. The Old World Order is a a land of power-hungry people who rule and command the masses. The OWO is a land of famine, self-centeredness, and life-ruining mistakes... The Hidden truth is but another blanket that covers your eyes from reality.

Hey, why not give everyone's guns to the American army and then they will be unstoppable!!!

We bomb isis every day.

No, we gingerly execute "precision strikes" in order to prevent "civilian casualties". Honestly, which would kill more civilians, us bombing ISIS, or ISIS being left alone to kill people as they wish?

LOL...."gingerly" and "bombing" don't go hand-in-hand. I think the powers that be know what they are doing pretty well. http://time.com/4145903/islamic-state-oil-syria/

http://theweek.com/speedreads/445720/pentagon-wants-what-like-bomb-isis

Carpet Bombing would violate Laws of War: http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/14/cnn-military-analyst-carpet-bombing-isis-would-violate-laws-of-war-video/

Retired U.S. Army Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling said Donald Trump’s strategy to “bomb the shit out of” ISIS, is “not only immoral but illegal,” and said it would lead to “mass resignations” across the military.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/13/army-3-star-mass-resignations-if-trump-bombs-the-s-out-of-isis-video/#ixzz3uKARLsqP

By gingerly, I mean not very much.

Hey, if you would rather have us invade and get rid of ISIS, i'm good with both.

No I'd rather let the Saudis and neighboring countries do it and dump the billions we will spend on doing their job for them strengthening our own borders and systems.

Isn't that what we're doing already? And btw, we won't dump billions into strengthening ourselves, all those billions will go to training them. Cause they don't want to fight, (as shown by the billions of dollars of U.S. military equipment they've left behind as they fled from ISIS) they want to run away. Some want to help.

We shouldn't be spending ANY money there in my opinion. We give 4 billion a year (plus military equipment/weapons) to Israel. What does that get us? We spent 6 trillion in Iraq and Afghanistan. For what? How did that help?

The Saudis have trillions of dollars and no debt. Let them, Jordan, Dubai, UAE, Brunei, Kuwait, and Qatar bankroll the effort.

The problem is they don't care.
A few of those countries actually support ISIS.

Not very much.And we've been bombing them every day.
""B-1s have dropped bombs in record numbers." So many we are running out of them
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/politics/air-force-20000-bombs-missiles-isis/

CNN... Communist News Network...there's a creditable source of news, another of Nobama's press corps

I wish all the 1 star and up generals would resign, bunch of no balls motherf**kers who are Nobama's puppets. We need guys in there who have balls that come in dump trucks and enough hair on their ass to weave an Indian blanket. And as far as the Geneva convention goes, ISIS is not a country and therefore the Geneva convention rules should not apply to them.

I've thought about strategies to reduce/eliminate the threat of ISIS without a large ground force, and without formally going to war with them. Try this:

We place an Marine infantry battalion on each side of ISIS territory. We tell ISIS that if they as much as kill 1 person (including dissenting local muslims), we will come into their territory and exact 7 times whatever loss they have caused us, back on them, them leave.

The ground forces are extremely precision and cost effective. There is enough that ISIS would not want to attack the local forces because the counter attack would be devastating. They would inevitably 'test' our resolve a few times, but once we show them we keep our word and exact the losses on them, the people in the area will eventually take it on themselves to clean house and they will lose support and dissolve internally.

Not perfect, but better than anything else I've hear heard so far.

I can tell you exactly what will happen.
ISIS will kill a muslim, but not tell anyone.
Then they will see that we can't know everything.
Even if we do invade like that, I doubt the people there will rise up. They already let ISIS build bases underneath the apartments they live in, and some even join. I bet they will timidly sit around while ISIS rebuilds it's forces, until the end result is the same as the beginning.

Nice try though, it's probably better than what we're doing now.

It's a deadly situation really. If we invade, we probably wont end anything, cause you can't kill and ideology with bullets.
We could seal our borders, preventing anyone from the middle east from entering, but that won't help, they'll find sympathizers from america and use them.

There really isn't anything we can do, short of nuking them, that will produce guaranteed results.

Obama warned ISIS 45 minutes before bpmbing them in order to prevent "civilian casualties."

i just upvoted everyone THANKS

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One word for you pal ..... DRONES. Get your facts straight.

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Hilarious meme! Even if I continue to support Obama...