Picard Wtf

That's not how analogies work. They are meant to illustrate a main point (sometimes one or two). But since they do that by comparing one situation to another, obviously not all the details of both situations are going to match, and expecting them to do so is unreasonable. This is just by definition of what an analogy is.

To press every detail of an analogy is an effective way to miss the point of why the analogy was used in the first place.

That's what i was going to say.

Not rude brother... ! Sometimes it's hard to express an idea on a meme and keep it limited to a statement or two.. w/o writing a paragraph. What I truly enjoy, on all memes, are the comments where the expressions usually are more clear. But even in comments.. I see it often takes an exchange of comments for ones meaning to become more clear to the other person. I always enjoy reading your comments, & you are always polite. Happy veterans day also sir!

You never. . Disappoint! Damn.. that's a statement!

Tekbarrier... no matter how we disagree on religion, I have to upvote your comments because you're never a hater. Always the scientific approach. . And it's always respectful. ;)

You set a good example for me early.. and new users see it too.. i hope! There's too much hate slinging on some of these memes. It's an opinion... it's OK!

Lmao... ! My daughter listens to Christian radio / music all the time and I don't like it! I'm a christian.. any don't like any evangelical TV!

Y u DISSING Christians?

But that doesn't mean we don't have religious boundaries. <3

On a public forum like this,.. you will run into a variety of opinions.. to include those for.. and against. It's not always "dissing",.. for someone to have a difference of opinion. There should be boundaries.. not everyone respects that on both sides. Keep a cool head and don't get rattled by different opinions. ;)

Exactly. That's why I don't understand why people ridicule Christianity while shouting from the rooftops that the universe was created by a "big bang". It takes about the same amount of faith in scientists that their theories are correct as it does to believe in God.

If you are arguing logic you probably shouldnt go after atheism

Good point.

LMBO It's like they don't even see it.

I don't understand what logic atheism has. Believing God exists is about the same as blindly thinking that through millions of minuscule chances over a long period of time, we got lucky and existed.

Except for you know, the fact that the chances have been decided to be viable by anyone who has a strong understanding of physics and chemistry

Chances... Equals physics and chemistry? Mmkay...
"have been decided" Sorry to tell ya this bro, but people decide things that are wrong all the time. Just because some scientist tells you his calculations are viable doesn't mean you should slap on that blindfold and listen to everything he says.

Ironic that you say that i am blindly following somebody when you are basing your beliefs off a book passed verbally for 4000 years and translated for 2000, and you do realize that they weren't "chances", the conclusions were based off things we know about science.

How can you know something when it happened millions of years ago? I'm not saying people don't blindly follow religion, but as attested to by the existence of yourself, most people don't blindly follow it, they read it and look it over first, before rejecting or following it. Seems however atheists such as yourself hear the words "a scientist said" and instantly go "well, he must be right". And how can you say they weren't chances? you must not understand what i'm saying. I mean the chances of life being able to evolve without dying out first are astronomically small. First, they would have to successfully evolve lungs and legs, then spread that onto their offspring, without dying of natural causes, since they are accustomed to the sea, and so on... Not to mention dinosaurs evolving into birds. How many dinosaurs died jumping off cliffs before the errant gene made them shrink, get hollow bones and grow feathers and wings?

Well of course there were chances, why do you think we are the only planet with life, that of course is not to say that there is not life anywhere else, as we would not be able to see microscopic life unless we could reach a planets surface, of which we have only reached the surface of 1 other planet.

Anyhow, most atheist dont blindly follow, we read papers on this topic from different people, we look into how it works, we learn about what it is about, and once we understand it, we decide that it is something that we can see as true.

The way we know of things happening from such a long time ago is because of carbon dating, its very complicated but atoms of carbon-14 decay, and it is estimated that every 5700yrs 1/2 of the amount of C-14 atoms in something decay, and we can look at how many C-14 atoms are in something to estimate the age.

And that isnt how evolution works, it is a mutation in the Dna of an animal which passes it on to its children, animals werent trying to mutate things, the mutations just happened when things changed. The idea that animals were trying to evolve wings by jumping of cliffs is crazy. and its also not immediate, animals do not suddenly grow wings after being born, they slowly develop after many generations and eventually, a species gets full developed wings and can fly.

The problem with what your thinking is that you think it is all happening directly, which it is not, it all takes very long for something like this to occur

Apologists will say carbon dating is a hoax. You can't win.

Well, that raises the question, why? If an animal evolves due to imminent danger, they don't have enough time, and if there is no imminent danger, why do they evolve? Just because?
And if they do, why is there no evidence? Why are there no half-dino-bird fossils, barring the archaeopteryx, which I highly doubt was the middle of the chain.

And honestly, don't even get me started on carbon dating. What people don't realize is that carbon dating is ridiculously inaccurate. In order for carbon dating to work, we have to know, without a doubt, what the environment was like for the carbon. We have to, in order to get accurate dates, know that in no way has the carbon been altered in a way, through the environment ect, to lose C-14 faster or slower.

As well as the fact that you need a standard object to date after, and if you don't have one, you can't, and if you do, same problem as above applies.

These are the facts as I understand them, I may be wrong, I watched a video on it a pretty long time ago. However, here's this link.
https://carm.org/carbon-dating

Carbon dating isnt really that inaccurate, after a creature stops living, it can no longer acquire more of the radioactive carbon. If you count the number of carbon atoms that decay for 250 minutes, you can estimate within a range of ± 80 years, so its not really that bad, on the timescale of the universe, that is.

I never said that evolution was caused because of imminent danger, its because of changes around them, all animals are born different, strengths and weaknesses vary, so that would mean that different animals would have a better chance to survive in different situations. For example, many animals in arid climate have less hair, this could be because animals with a bit more hair than other overheated and died out, while the less hairy ones reproduced and produced offspring with their same traits, less hair, until eventually, the genes mutated to the point of no hair at all. The same can be said for wings, an animals could randomly mutate flatter arms, smaller bones, hollow bones, each of these helping the creature more and more until the ones without these mutations died out, the arms then developed into gliding wings and eventually flying wings.

We are missing fossils, yes, but it is estimated that 99% of species on earth are extinct, we have found 25000 different species in fossils, and there is estimated to be 8.7M on earth today. So, obviously there will be missing links, we dont even know if what we have is 100% accurate, but with what we do know about it, this is our best bet.

I'm not talking about acquiring more carbon, i'm talking about loosing carbon at a faster/slower rate, and the fact you have to have a sample from which you know without a doubt how old it is, in order to range the date.
That's called microevolution, which is very real, and is a far cry from a monkey turning into a human. Good argument though, I can't really counter it. Guess i'll do some more reasearch, and we'll find out in the end. At any rate, I'd rather be a child of God than the child of a monkey. Guess that's just me. :)

Redstone! Are you arguing with that science stuff again? ;) As always.. i upvote all your comments because you're respectful... ! We'll have to settle this at a BBQ someday!

Oh I know. Just think of how many universes have been created with one solitary sweet spot in them to create human life, and subsequently imgflip, in the writing of those scientific papers that prove the big bang theory. Mind boggling.

So, which science? Saying "God did it" is just as vague and unscientific as saying "we think that there wasn't actually nothing, there was a tiny speck comprised of the entire universe which decided to explode and create everything." The only difference being one has intelligence and the other doesn't.

Mightydragon... thanks. You kept a cool head! Don't be rattled by these guys.. you did good! Tekbarrier and Redstone don't share our beliefs.. but they don't get ugly.. and are good guys! I've seen some atheist and agnostics sling hate at religion, and these guys dont. There's hope for them yet! ;) thanks for comments brother!

I try :) I used to be pretty angry, but then I decided it would be a better example if I was nice.

Mightydragon.. I agree with you bro! Redstone and I disagree on religion, but he is a decent guy! Don't take offense from Redstone.. just keep believing! ;)

The big bang holds no water for me. Nothing.. from nothing.. caused something.. and that's how we evolved? I'm sticking with the book version.. after all the bible has been on the best seller list for decades. ;)

Well, big bang dudes would just say, "Your God came from nothing!"

But I think the reason so many of them dislike christians is because we're so assured of our future. While they fret and worry about death and global warming, we're just like "I'm going to heaven, it's cool bro, I know how stuff started and how it'll end." And that calmness freaks them out.

"What if they're right? I have to disprove God's existence to justify my nonbelief."

It's essentially creating a "false God". . So they can't be judged. Many Self proclaimed Christians do it as well.. when they say "well,.. i don't God Is Gonna Punish me for XYZ... " or "God don't care about this minor sin".. they are creating the God they want to justify their lifestyle. IMHO... ;)

Since you're new,.. allow me to offer advice. If you noticed.. there was an exchange of comments between atheist. . & Christians. Did you notice they were respectful and Got upvoted? I never voted on your comment because I either Upvote or ignore. But others noticed your negative comments and did downvote them. In the future if you just make respectful comments You will find that they will be upvoted and more people will upvote your memes as well. anytime you make a comment or a mean on a public forum there may be differing opinions.. We can expect that. But It in no way means we should be disrespectful to other opinions. anyway, I hope this is helpful for you in the future. keep going and good luck.

Well.. after I made this comment he deleted his nasty meme.. maybe he thought about it.

Incidentally, I didn't actually mention science whatsoever. Philosophical thought has a lot if issues with it all too.

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not omnipotent. Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?" -Epicurus

I see you're new.. because u downvote all comments that don't agree with yours. That reputation will follow you.. i made a good faith effort to explain this to you. You will find it a lot more enjoyable to acknowledge that not all opinions will agree with yours,.. and you will make alliances by being nice and not acting immature with downvotes.

LOGIC IS OVERRATED!!! Jesus lives. Period. Gods not dead. I don't understand how people can be so stupid. It's simple. Jesus loves you. He died on a cross for you. We as Christians have the responsibility to tell others that. God made you, and he loves you. (Even if you're a jerk)

nice comment! As long as we're nice I think Our agnostic and atheist friends understand that Christians aren't nutjobs ;)