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Perception vs. Reality | I'M A STRAIGHT WHITE MALE I WAS TOLD THERE WOULD BE PRIVILEGE | image tagged in memes,i was told there would be,white privilege,AdviceAnimals | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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10 ups, 8y
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8 ups, 8y,
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I also don't understand why people try to get Christian influences out of everything but they don't care about any other religion being spread around in public
10 ups, 8y,
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My personal belief on that issue is that on some level people are more threatened by the Christian religion because it has more of a ring of truth to them than the others do, and they are troubled by its claims. Nobody is frightened by the claims of the religion they are certain is false.
4 ups, 8y,
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That was actually my theory too
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2 ups, 8y
I believe you are correct. Which is why as an Atheist I do not object to "In God we trust" or any of the other silly crap like trying to ban the 10 Commandments from our courthouses etc. Those who say they object to these things because they are Atheist are closet Christians. Those of us who know Christianity is just another false religion take no offense. Just as no one is offended by the Easter Bunny.
1 up, 8y
I think that's because Christianity is the dominant religious ideal in the west. If you would be an atheist in a muslim country for example you'd be preoccupied about islam much more than christianity.
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0 ups, 6y
That's my stapler.
2 ups, 8y,
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I'm not sure what you're implying. Are you saying if black guys rob banks police will treat them differently to how they will treat white guys who rob banks?
1 up, 8y,
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I was implying on riots that happened through the states because of black people getting shot by white policeman with almost no reason at all. You know what I'm talking about, Baltimore, etc. I did a meme response, so my point can't be that clear I guess, but that's the point. You can't tell me there's no racism towards black and latino community in the States, there is. But of course, it is not literally everywhere and of course, it doesn't mean that if you're white you're gonna be privileged, but you definitely have less chances of being harassed and in the end, being shot down because of your race, than if your latin american or black.
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4 ups, 8y,
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If they get shot, they probably deserved it, 'cause you know, they robbed a bank and all.
1 up, 8y,
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Yeah but if black guy gets shot and the white one not... Or if they go on court and the white guy gets released and the black one not... :)
1 up, 8y,
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Or maybe the black guy pulled a gun on the cops and the white guy surrendered...
0 ups, 8y
Maybe, that's a possibility too, but it happens way to often that white policeman kill unarmed black people, and way more often than it happens to white people, for us to ignore the issue of racism.
2 ups, 8y,
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"Black people getting shot by white policemen with almost no reason at all"? No, I wasn't aware of that. I don't follow local news reports in the U.S. and frankly if I did read a report like that I would be skeptical of it.

But I definitely understand what you mean about the struggle to make things clear in a meme response. Thanks for explaining.
1 up, 8y,
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Google Charleston shooting, and Baltimore riots. You'll see what I mean. You have whole movements of people with 'black lives matter' hashtags. America is pretty racist and that's a fact. Now, I get it that some people will rather believe it's all shines and diamonds, but reality disproves them all the time. It's not a one incident, you had riots all over the States because of the issue.
3 ups, 8y,
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Just because people are rioting over something doesn't mean that it actually happened for the reasons they think. I'll google those things you suggested though.

I'm not denying racism in America. However, I am very skeptical of the construct of "privilege," especially when people try to read things into how police treat criminals from different races. I'm pretty sure police try to stop criminals no matter what race those criminals are.
1 up, 8y,
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Policeman are bastards often enough without implying race. When it comes to race, they tend to be even bigger bastards. I'm not saying all of them are like that, I'm not saying the majority is like that, but obviously enough of them are, otherwise they wouldn't behave they way they behave, luckily now we have cameras so some o those things get recorded. Listen, what would you say about a New York policeman who choked unarmed black guy on the street? If you're not informed and you're interested in the issue read about it, there are plenty of case policeman killing black people with no reason or with a ridiculous reasons, far more then it happens to white people. That means something and it's clear what does it mean. But of course riots do not necessarily mean something is true. But when you do the research, you can conclude for yourself. And privilege is a concept, it's not something that exists in reality like some kind of natural phenomenon. But when you look at the reality, you see that black and latino people are quite often discriminated in predominantly white societies, that's just the way it is.
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I really think you might be connecting dots that aren't necessarily there.

Just because a policeman kills a man who is of a particular race doesn't mean he killed him because of his race.

And just because more black people die by police than white people (I don't know if that's true or not), again that doesn't mean it's because of their skin colour. There other factors that could be coming into play.

I think in general people tend to oversimplify complex issues and prefer "pat" answers, and I don't think that's helpful. People like to see causality in things and think they understand things, but issues are not always clear-cut.
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Ok, that is true. But when a policeman kills a black guy and doesn't get punished for that? Or when a police enters a party because the neighbors called, and puts all blacks and Latinos on the ground and have them cuffed while they just live the white guys alone? It happened, I saw a video, the white guy on the party filmed it. And when a crazy guy in Charleston enters a church and kills seven black people because of their skin? Let's not pretend that nothing can be concluded from individual acts. It's not all, about a one crazy policeman and one crazy guy. There is a pattern here and it's obvious. And it's not surprising, in the end.
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You're right. We shouldn't pretend that nothing can be concluded from individual acts. I'm more talking about oversimplifications, or concepts such as "privilege" which seem (at least in my eyes) to give more information about the worldview of the people discussing the concepts than to reality.
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Yeah, in a country where whites outnumber blacks several times, and based on what statistics?
0 ups, 8y,
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https://news.wsu.edu/2014/09/02/deadly-force-lab-finds-racial-disparities-in-shootings/
0 ups, 8y,
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To create a statistics like that in a country big as the USA is impossible. They can eventually have a well based guess. While, in reality, there are videos of policeman treating blacks and latinos in a discriminative way because of their skin, and I don't really see it happen to whites.
0 ups, 8y
Did you even read the study...
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