Confused Gandalf

Yeah, pretty much.

The world needs more people like you.

1. You can't explain where the matter came from.
2. You can't explain where the energy came from.
3. You can't explain where the force to compress the aforementioned matter came from.
4. You can't explain how matter that got thrown in every direction eventually started sticking to other close by matter to form heavenly bodies.
5. Evolution has not been observed: You can only study the present, not the past. No species has been documented over time to record its evolution.
6. A sound theory should be able to make predictions. Evolutionists cannot predict what humans will supposedly evolve into.
Believing in the Big Bang and Evolution requires as much faith as believing in God and in the account of Divine Creation. You didn't see the Big Bang. I can't see God. Neither Creationism nor Evolutionism are scientifically sound. They're both impossible according to science. Both you and I have faith, but our faith differs. Just because you don't believe in God, that doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Dude your awesome!

God is made up. Satan created everything.

I did not know of the string (theory) of responses since this post, so forgive me for being late to the party. But, I had to retort here.
1. Science is looking into that. You are right, it's currently unknown.
2.Energy is somewhat like gravity. You cannot touch it, but you can feel it and experience it. Energy is a bio(mechanical) process - rub your hands together, you just created heat (energy). Yes, it's just converting one form of energy to another. Perhaps energy has always been. I do not know a definitive answer.
3. Gravity? Magnetism? Gravity is proportional to volume AND proximity. Ions are charged particles that produce magnetism. The energy to create this explosion probably came from the incredible force of "cramming" so much into such a tiny area.
4. Again, gravity and polarity?
5. False, evolution has been observed MANY times. Dogs are evolution, granted they are unnatural selection created by humanity. Dogs and wolves can mate because they are the same species, but one is directly descended from the other; that is evolution. Wolves still exist because dogs are "unnatural" variants of them. Viruses and bacteria are similar. Because their life cycle is so much shorter than ours, we can see change in genetic structure within short periods of time. Certain strains develop an immunity to antibiotics/antivirals and they reproduce. This creates a lineage of resistant pathogens.
6. We actually do know what is most likely next for humans - bionic humans and designer humans created by genetic and mechanical engineering. It is actually a very interesting topic conversed upon by many leading scientists from many disciplines. "Natural humans" will be obsolete if we continue on this path. Additionally, if humans continually prosper as we are now, there is no need for much evolutionary change. Change will occur, however, as mutations are inevitable. That's why it's very hard to predict what is next. There are certainly theories, but it's hard to predict what will happen both genetically and environmentally over time. Remember, evolution has no goal or timeline, it's just the result of unpredictable mutations in an unpredictable environment.
And I don't know how both "Creationism" and "Evolutionism" are impossible according to science. Science supports evolution because it has been observed in the past and the present. Creationism isn't impossible under science either. No real scientist claims they have definitive proof either way.

1. Reply not necessary.
2. Energy cannot be eternal, otherwise eternal entropy would have made energy unusable by now. (Technically a reply to #3.)
3. Energy for the explosion came from the force of compression? Where did that force come from? Is gravity and/or magnetism eternal?
4. How could matter start sticking to other matter if each tiny piece got propelled by the force of the explosion of the universe (making it go retardedly fast)? Matter's gravity is based on its mass. Two small pieces of matter going thousands (more likely, millions) of miles per hour at the difference of 0.00001 degrees would end up miles apart in a very short period of time. They'd be too small and too far away to pull on each other.
5. Evolution? Nope, species development I suppose you could call it. I believe Noah's two dogs were ancestors of every canid living since. I believe those two doggish animals had the DNA for every currently existing canid, and that dogs born with similar parts (for lack of a better word) of that DNA mated, causing species to show up. That's only my theory, but it has just as much merit as believing every organism came from rocks.
6. A genetically engineered human wouldn't be evolved: he would merely be altered. Outside forces, and not himself, would change his body. Evolution is "The process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth." This says nothing about outside forces causing those changes.

Grammar error: "Neither Creationism nor Evolutionism *is* scientifically sound."

Hahahahahahaha

What if I told you that, that its quite obvious that we have a structured design and that a single cell is more complicated than the space shuttle that took NASA to the moon. And also that the likely hood of this being all possible by pure chance is about 1 in 100000000000000000000000000000000000

The chance of winning the lottery is one in 14 million yet people still win it all the time.
I am just giving to use the monkey typewriter theory thingymabob that basically says if a monkey hits random keys on a typewriter then it will eventually write Shakespeare.
The chance of getting hit by lightning is 1 in 2 million.
The chance of getting hit by lightning 7 times in your life (like Roy sulivan did) is 1 in 128000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 But that happened.

Who in the name of pants generates these numbers about how many chances there are of something happening? I'd like to see his/her math. :|
1 in 14 million? And how many people win each lottery? 1.
The chance of God existing? 50% chance. Either He does, or He doesn't. Chance of Big Bang, evolution etc.? 50%. Either it happened, or it didn't. We're all in the same boat. Either we're right, or we're wrong. 50% chance works for me. ;)

Ok, chance of me dying. I either live or i die. 50%.
This is how it's calculated:
In a typical 6/49 game, six numbers are drawn from a range of 49 and if the six numbers on a ticket match the numbers drawn, the ticket holder is a jackpot winner—this is true no matter in which order the numbers appear. The probability of this happening is 1 in 13,983,816.

This small chance of winning can be demonstrated as follows:

Starting with a bag of 49 differently-numbered lottery balls, there are 49 different but equally likely ways of choosing the number of the first ball selected from the bag, and so there is a 1 in 49 chance of predicting the number correctly. When the draw comes to the second number, there are now only 48 balls left in the bag (because the balls already drawn are not returned to the bag) so there is now a 1 in 48 chance of predicting this number.

Thus for each of the 49 ways of choosing the first number there are 48 different ways of choosing the second. This means that the probability of correctly predicting 2 numbers drawn from 49 in the correct order is calculated as 1 in 49 × 48. On drawing the third number there are only 47 ways of choosing the number; but of course we could have arrived at this point in any of 49 × 48 ways, so the chances of correctly predicting 3 numbers drawn from 49, again in the correct order, is 1 in 49 × 48 × 47. This continues until the sixth number has been drawn, giving the final calculation, 49 × 48 × 47 × 46 × 45 × 44, which can also be written as . This works out to a very large number, 10,068,347,520, which is much bigger than the 14 million stated above.

The last step is to understand that the order of the 6 numbers is not significant. That is, if a ticket has the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6, it wins as long as all the numbers 1 through 6 are drawn, no matter what order they come out in. Accordingly, given any set of 6 numbers, there are 6 × 5 × 4 × 3 × 2 × 1 = 6! or 720 orders in which they could be drawn. Dividing 10,068,347,520 by 720 gives 13,983,816.

Tl:dr- there are 7 billion people in the world and a lot of them are stupid enough to play the lottery.

Chance of you dying: 100%. :D

But i either die or live :p

Yeah. I'm talkin' 'bout in the long run.

Ok, let me out it a different way.
If i flip a coin, it either lands on heads or tails (or on it's side)
So that's a 50:50 chance, could be heads, could be tails.
But if i roll a dice, it either lands on a 6 or 5, 4, 3, 2 or 1
It's either 6 or it's not, 1 in 6.
You can't expect two events to have a completely equal chance.

Yeah, I know. I hope it hasn't seemed like I've been arguing.

No, not at all. I like learning about other religions and stuff. You see, i like all the good stuff like love thy neighbor and all that stuff but the gays should be killed bits are what annoys me.

My beliefs on gays: they're sinning, but everyone else is a sinner as well. I don't see homosexuality as a "special" or "worse" sin.
Jesus didn't condemn the woman caught in adultery (and that's basically how the Bible portrays homosexuality), he said don't sin anymore. I think gay people shouldn't be gay (I believe it CAN be helped), but I'm not going to throw the stone at them.

I was talking about the chances of getting struck by lightning 7 times and the chances of evolution being possible. :|

2M*2M*2M*2M*2M*2M*2M=128000000000000000000.............

I don't get how they (grammatically incorrect, but work with me here) come up with 1:2000000 chances that you'll get struck by lightning.

They take the amount of people in America (i think, it could be other countries) and divide it by the amount of people struck by lightning.

I figured that was how.
BTW, just 'cause something that close to impossible has happened, it doesn't mean the Big Bang and such happened. I don't claim to have PROOF of what I believe, but I gotta say it's annoying when evolutionists claim to have proof that they're correct (I'm not saying that's what you're doing, BTW).

Yep, it's just sort of my rebuttal to the "the chances of everything being made randomly is 1 in (high number)."

Yeah that's pretty much it in a nutshell.

Sorry. :P

I believe in the string theory, in which the universe will eventually collapse in upon itself and create a point of matter with an infinite density, and then create another big bang.

Eventually all energy would "run out" and the universe would cease to... operate.

How would it run out? Energy can never be destroyed.

Energy can become unusable. After an eternity, all energy would be unusable.

Um, the dinosaurs didn't evolve into humans. They died.
And yeah, this doesn't make a lot of sense, but think: Where did God come from? At least the theory you're confused about shows that life (and therefore intelligence) slowly came about. If God did exist, then he came suddenly and with a full intelligence, as well as a knowledge on how to create stuff. I highly doubt that. Things need to be learned. That's why the more scientific perspective makes more sense to a lot of people.

#howtostartaflamewar :P

I could say the same to you, where did you come from, matter can not be destroyed or created, so where did the matter which forms your being come from? God has always been there and always will be, everything must come from an eternal source which has always been there. God is that source, and through his infinite existence comes our finite existance . And think about it knowlage is power I'm sure we can both agree on that one, so if your all knowing you are therefore all powerful as god is described in the bible. Also he created time so we think of everything as there must be a starting place cuz time is a part of how we understand the world around us. But in the demention god lives in there is no time, time is a measurement of change and god is never changing. In a way everything has already happened but we are trapped by the laws of time which he created. Also I had a dream he came to me in which was my main point in believing in him. But go ahead, and say it was my minds perception of who I preceive god to be. Just being in his presence I felt so much love, and like I was at home from a long journey. He loves you and maybe this is a building block to your salvation :)

But what made god

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Can you explain that in laments terms, i have no idea what you mean.

Sure! God is saying He is the first and the last, Who has always been and always will be.

I don't understand, the earth needs a creator but god doesn't. Who's to say if god was created by a super god or something.

Don't try to get it. You'll hurt your brain. :|

Us trying to understand everything about God is more impossible than an ant trying to understand calculus.

There's a book that takes several years to read all about this stuff why don't people know the answer?

The Bible just says He has always been. Psalms 93:2- "Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting." I think it's hard to imagine something (or someOne) without a beginning because everything we've ever experienced has had a beginning.

Nobody made god he has always been there, and If you disagree what made matter which forms the material world? Again I'll explain time is a measurement of change, and God is never changing. Since we are under his law of time, we think everything must have a begening and an end because that's how we understand the world. And if (note I say if) you believe in the big bang what made the big bang?

What if i said the Big Bang has always been there

We'd be in the same boat. Neither one of us could possibly prove what we believe.

Yep, as long as people don't try to convert others then that's fine by me.
Cos it's technically brainwashing.

I gotta say, though, trying to "convert" someone to Evolution makes no sense to me. If Christians are right, evolutionists are in danger of Hell because of their skepticism. If evolutionists are right, we're all in the same boat.
BTW, I capitalize "Christian" because it's capitalized in the Bible. :P

But what if Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jews, Muslims or pastafarians are right?

Pastafarians? I bet they have a really weird belief system. XD

They believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Their heaven has a beer volcano and a stripper factory
Their hell is the same but the beer is stale and all the strippers have std's
They believe climate change was caused by the decline in pirates (if you think about it, pirates have gone down and global warming has gone up)
Their religious headwear is the colander, pasta strainer and similar stuff allowing them to legally wear it in driving licence photos
My favourite thing is at the end of preying they say "ramen" instead of "amen"
That's about it really

I agree with XenusianSoldier, if atheists are right then no problem, but if Christians are right then many are in danger of hell.