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Chad approaching npc | "How can you have sympathy for someone like Homelander from The Boys!?"; "You mean like the way you guys have sympathy for Dracula, the WICKED Witch of the West, Loki, Magneto, Darth Vader, Stalin and even Satan himself?" | image tagged in chad approaching npc,memes,double standards,the boys | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
142 views 8 upvotes Made by SnappyCenter7 3 weeks ago in politics
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3 ups, 3w,
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Nice! Though I will say at least Darth Vader had some good in him, and repented in the very end. That is why people show sympathy.

What he did during that time was inexcusable tho
1 up, 3w,
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A lot of characters in fiction who are the villains also do some good things. If they didn't, you would just have a character who is evil all the time and that would make them boring and one dimensional.
1 up, 3w
"characters in fiction who are the villains also do some good things" also includes Homelander.
1 up, 3w
1 up, 3w,
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Partial credit for that bit about Vader. In Return of the Jedi, Luke surrendered to the Empire on Endor to get close to Vader so he could try and talk Vader into redemption - that's how Luke ended up on the second Death Star where he later cut off Vader's hand.

Now what about;

*The Wicked Witch of the West (who spawned the book/play/movie/franchise "Wicked").
* Dracula, who had at least 2 movies whitewashing him (the 1992 movie and the 2014 movie)
* Loki (anything from Marvel in the last 10 years)
* Magneto (also Marvel, but for even longer than Loki)
* Stalin (when was the last time he was a villain in fiction?)
* The literal devil (the series' "Lucifer" and "Hazbin Hotel" to name two).

There's more, but if there are people will whitewash the literal devil himself, who won't they whitewash?
0 ups, 3w,
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Partial credit? For seeing Star Wars at the RKO Theater on Fordham Road in 1977?

You saw the movies backwards, I saw them when they first came out. Darth Vader was a bad guy, he wasn't Luke & Leia's his father, Luke and Leia weren't brother and sister, and all the rest of it.

As Czechy already pointed out to you, they're not so one-dimensional. Bad guys don't just get born and decide to be bad guys. Scripts start getting boring after you add a couple of chapters to the movie and the bad guy dressed in black is still just a plain old bad guy destroying planets because he's bad like that.

As the series progressed, their reduction into basic tropes became increasingly unavoidable, might as well be watching a Bug's Bunny cartoon. They had to flesh it out some, give the characters some character, nuance, reasons to want to go around blowing up planets for no reason.

Whitewashing Dracula? Francis Ford Coppola's version was the best of the whole lot. I'm surprised anybody has even bother making vampire movies since, let alone of Dracula. except Let the Right One In & Let Me In, that was an interesting take on vampires.

The literal devil? The literal Devil is a Roman reinvention based on the Zoroastrian Angra Mainyu. It's culmination of long line of recasting, starting with the Great Serpent God of Knowledge to Satan as part of the Heavenly Council to the Devil.

The story goes like this, once upon a time two gods that were best friends were hanging out in this garden with their pet monkey people. One day, the Serpent God invited the monkey people to partake of the food of knowledge from whence the Gods got theirs

Afterwards, the other God, an angry and petty wrathful god, upon learning what happened cast the pet monkey people out and chopped off the legs and arms of his buddy and threw him out of the garden and the world has been ruled by evil ever since. How's that for whitewashing? We worship the bad God who has been punishing us ever since, and recasted the good God that gave us the gift of knowledge as the bad God.

Now I don't know anything about this Badlander show, but I'll take it from the guy who actually played the character. According to him, he's a bad guy and nothing but. Period. That's it, no rebel without a cause, no simply misunderstood outsider, no someone who's faulty accused. He's just a bad guy.
0 ups, 2w
To borrow a movie quote for your comment; "what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

I'm not sure if you're trolling or actually that stupid.

Nothing you said refutes that and most of what you said confirms it even as you pretend otherwise.

I know Vader was the bad guy, I still have VHS tapes for the original trilogy for one. But people later whitewashed him, especially in fan works.

Just because Ford Coppola whitewashed Dracula doesn't make it "the best", that's a subjective position. Dracula was clearly evil in previous films such as the Hammer films and in the original book by Bram Stoker, the guy who created the character.

Angra Mainyu is clearly evil in Zoroastrianism, so if Angra Mainyu was Zoroastrianism's understanding of the devil, that's not a reinvention. Also, for one, the idea of the Devil as a cosmic evil being emerged gradually in Second Temple Judaism, not Rome. Plus, the ancient Israelite religion NEVER had a serpent god of knowledge. Spare me that Gnostic nonsense.

The fact that you called Homelander "Badlander" shows you know more about the show than you pretend to.
1 up, 3w
I'm no fan of Homelander, but I dislike double standards even more.
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