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Today's lesson is about loving thy neighbor.

Today's lesson is about loving thy neighbor. | you hate liberals; but jesus was liberal. | image tagged in little girl shrug,memes,jesus the liberal | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
117 views 4 upvotes Made by charlielunchbucket 4 weeks ago in politics
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4 ups, 4w,
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I don't remember Jesus ever saying "ask not what God can do for you, but ask what your government can give you for free".

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in 2,000 years of cumulative editing, they probably dropped a lot of quotes that weren't movie-worthy.
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But how do liberals feel about kiwi farms hosting child pornography on their official fedicerse server? https://i.imgflip.com/arxo19.jpg
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i imagine that most liberals have never heard of kiwi farms and they suppose that all kinds of contradictions and sickness occur in the world, since that is in the nature of our kind, but that's speculation on my part. whenever i talk to people i think of as liberals, the topic has never once come up.
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How do you feel about it, not a liberal?
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Personally, after being unofficially excommunicated from my church for accurately warning about our governments beginning to move in villainous ways back in 2014 after I was specifically tasked with praying for a message from the Lord as a member of the pastor's newly formed intercessory prayer group, I feel like it's more of the ssdd.

The reputational damages and baseless slander never ends, Charlie.
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that is true, Anzu/Naru, so i keep an enemies list and act on it as opportunity allows, but for the rest of the time, i don't let it distract me from my goals.
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i know that all kinds of contradictions and sickness occur in the world, since that is in the nature of our kind. i don't discount it but i'm very focused on other problems.
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That's a surprisingly self-described liberal take from someone who is self-proclaimedly not a liberal.

Evidently all kinds of contradictions really do occur in this world!
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remember when i pointed out that you make mistakes in logic? this is another example for you to recognize and think on.
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No, I don't, actually.

But I do remember the time I was given a warning for "harassing" a kiwi farmer on imgflip after he deliberately admitted to attempting to harass me, and that time my meme about the FBI being AWOL while kiri farms is hosting child pornography was found not to be political enough to be featured in the imgflip politics stream.

Perhaps you can point out my mistakes in logic in those examples?
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but i am not a liberal. you might call me a moderate, but i'm really more of an eclecticist and objectivist. i hold a wide range of views, some of which are liberal and some are conservative, but none are contradictory. you should try it if you haven't yet, since it is very powerful.
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All of the views from you that I've seen have been extremely anti-conservative.
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well i'm willing to point out your mistake in this instance if you like. i don't have the time to go back and point out the others. sorry.

so, just because i suggest that i think i share a view ("all kinds of contradictions and sickness occur in the world") with most liberals, that does not make it a 'liberal take' or me a liberal. are you disputing the view itself? surely not. does that make you a liberal? surely not.

it's not a crime to make errors in logic. when i see them, i generally don't point them out because that would be rude (in general). i only point it out in cases such as when the error bears on my own unarguably fabulous record and reputation for accuracy in all things where accuracy can be expected and reasonably assessed.

now this is important: you are extremely intelligent with greater potential than you may realize. i don't mind jousting with you since that is a perfectly good tool for improving the mind and our judgment. i only ask that you try to be more polite.
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1 up, 4w
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I'm not often given any common courtesies myself, so you'll have to excuse me if I come across as scornful. I am extremely scornful, and I have every God given right to be with the amount of dishonest bs I am forced to contend with on a daily basis. I'm also prepared to provide the scripture explaining how should you feel that is not congruent with Christianity.

However, I never said you're a hypocrite. I merely implied your claim of not being a liberal is a contradiction since you just affirmed that you hold liberal leaning opinions by your own description.

Being liberal isn't a noun.

But that also wasn't the mistake in logic I was asking about.
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maybe because the views you've seen are mainly in this stream and many are anti-Trump. i see Trump as a poison in our political system, but the same does not apply to Conservatism at all. i challenge the Conservatives in this stream to recognize the problem, which is not Conservatism.
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People who mock Christianity 364 days of the year should not try to play self righteous on that one day about characters they don't believe in from a book they never read.
In chapter one it says man must work for by the sweat of his brow he will eat.
That's not food stamps bro.
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do you find it funny when people exchange bible verses that seem to contradict each other, like when God says Withhold food stamps in all their forms, but Jesus says Feed and clothe the poor if ye wish to enter the Kingdom of my Pop?
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Jesus acted Conservatively. often demonstrating self-discipline.
The Devil that tempted him for 40 days in the desert was a Liberal
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Oh Chuckie,
It's more correct than Chuckie gives it credit for .... but alas
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Chuckie stands by his analysis.
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[image deleted] Understood
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Maybe we'll take that splinter out of our eye,
when first you deal with the log in yours ?
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no idea what you mean, bud.
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It's a quote from Scripture. People who have never read the Bible just make fools of themselves when they try to be self righteous about a subject they lack both knowledge of and belief in.
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i know it's a quote from Scripture. what i'm saying is that it's being inaccurately applied. you art particularly righteous-acting for someone who is so strongly agin it, bruh.
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How so ?
Inaccurately applied that is. Do elaborate.
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sure, and thanks for asking. it shows that you're open to correction. you say i have a log in my eye. we all suffer from many misperceptions, which is inevitable given our poor understanding of our earthly circumstances. but you comment seems to suggest that I hate Conservatives, which i do not. if i did, i wouldn't be trying to help them regain some normalcy. i'm a moderate, or more of an eclecticist, really, and an objectivist to the extent that i'm able. the fact that i target extremisms doesn't mean that i advocate for their opposites. so in that sense, my eyes are as log-free as i can keep them. won't you join me?
2 ups, 4w,
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Well, you pointed out the sliver in several of our eyes first... your log was easier, due to it's size to see
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We know.
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The problem is, you are trying to correct others without correcting yourself first.
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why do you say that?
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Your meme has a very self righteous tone and uses a broad brush to paint anyone who doesn’t agree with liberals as hypocrites.

For example, most liberals consider expressing an opinion that the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is immoral is hate speech. I know several who think anyone who doesn’t agree with them or accept their sexuality as normal hates them. So, when you say “you hate liberals” it sounds like you mean “you disagree with liberals.”

Also, Your meme isn’t even accurate since Jesus’ teachings more closely matches conservatism than liberalism.

This is why you need to deal with the beam in your own eye before trying to teach a lesson about loving thy neighbor to others.
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thanks for explaining your opinion.

just because a meme is right doesn't mean its self-righteous. and it doesn't use 'a broad brush to paint anyone who doesn’t agree with liberals as hypocrites'. you just read it that way. whenever i read a meme, i don't automatically assume it applies to me. that would certainly be unwarranted, as you well know. we decide how to respond to each meme based on whether we feel that it is speaking to or about us, and that depends greatly on our own self-image.

do you really know that most liberals consider the idea of 'LGBTF+ lifestyle = hate speech' to be immoral? certainly many do, but it might be something like only 9 or 10%. you are judging by a small number of examples that you know. when i say 'you hate liberals', i'm speaking to the small fraction of people who actually do hate them. a person who doesn't hate them should just ignore the meme. i always try to be accurate in saying what i mean. when i say 'hate', i mean hate, not moral disagreement.

my meme is accurate in the sense that when i say 'jesus was liberal', i don't mean that Jesus was A liberal. the biblical description of Jesus clearly depicts him as holding views that we attribute to modern American liberals. i think that's hard to dispute. i did not say that he held only liberal views. he was also clearly a big fan of the rules of God, so very conservative views in that sense at least.

so i think my eyes are doing alright, and I'm going to continue to think of myself (by and large, at least) as a reasonably fair and objective memer.
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So, what you’re saying is your meme applies to very few people since few, if any, who visit this thread literally hate all liberals.

As for Jesus being liberal because he depicts views attributed to modern liberals, you might as well call Republicans liberals too since they also share many of the same views. The big difference between the two is how they believe “loving thy neighbor” should be administered. Most liberals think conservatives are heartless because they don’t believe taking from the rich to give to the poor is the right solution.

You can’t post a politically charged meme and tile like this one and expect people to not look at you as being self righteous.
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well that's not exactly what i said but i see that it doesn't matter what i say. you are not alone in that many people's theories have been by-passed by those that are better at explaining the facts. it's hard to admit it, i guess, but you can't expect much help or sympathy from those who can. hopefully you practice what you preach and insist that your own children are aware of the current alternative theories to your own.
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You don’t have to say it exactly. We both know that the American education system is overrun by liberals and anti-Christianity is just one aspect of their agenda.
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well a lot of people don't want Christianity taught in public schools. that seems reasonable doesn't it? do you want Islam taught in schools? or Hinduism, or agnosticism, or atheism? i've never been a religious person (although i'm open to any good proof of God that can be mustered), so this whole topic is hard for me to spend any time on.
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Yes, in fact I took a class on world religions. It was very enlightening.
If they’re going to teach things like the Big Bang Theory and Evolution then they need to balance it out with subjects like Creationism and the documented evidence that supports it. Otherwise we are withholding information from a growing number of children who don’t get taught these other theories at home or in church - so they think the theories taught in school are fact and the only possibility.
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theories of the universe and the origin of Earth are, unfortunately, often presented as fact by textbooks and teachers. this is a serious problem of basic training. even very generally accepted theories are supposed to remain theories. with respect to the Big Bang, Evolution, Creationism, and others, the problem there is limited time: too many theories and only 35-45 hours in a semester to cover whatever you choose to cover. so we mainly cover the most currently accepted theories that have the most solid evidence. i taught chemistry and biochemistry for 35 years. until recently, we were mainly allowed to steer our own boats, so i taught the currently accepted theories (as theories) but gave some attention to other scientific ideas that have been recently emerging. i think i would be hard pressed to cover any religion-based theories at all since there's no time for it, many students and parents would be strongly against it, my bosses would be against it, and the evidence is very thin compared to the great masses of evidence behind the current scientific theories. to be clear, though, the current theories are not entirely correct, and may be very incorrect in many ways (I'm writing some papers about it right now), but the weight of evidence in favor of them and their emerging descendants will never be even remotely approached by the evidence for Creationism.
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Thanks for confirming that many parents and most of academia are against teaching anything about Jesus Christ. Not having enough time is just an excuse. I’m not talking about delving into the details but, rather, at least touching on the basics to let students know that there are other theories out there and one of the most prominent (which was taught long before the big gang theory) is the Christian belief that the earth and everything living on it was created by design, not chance. Instead, if creationism is mentioned at all, it is dismissed as myth and I’m pretty sure people in academia aren’t encouraging students to look into it further by reading scripture or attending religious services on their own. They are very biased and don’t want their students to even consider the possibility that scientific theories are incomplete without considering intelligent design.
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no i'm not saying that. why don't you take a meme poll to see how people answer the question 'on a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you dislike liberals?' you may be surprised.

almost everyone holds some liberal views and some conservative views, with the ratio varying greatly from person to person, but that sort of accuracy is too wordy as meme text.

people are perfectly welcome to see my memes any way they like. i learned long ago to not expect too much from my readers' interpretations (in my professional writing), so things like that don't bother me much.
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Dislike != Hate. But if you’re using hate as a synonym for dislike, it’s still not accurate since most people don’t necessarily dislike the person as much as they dislike their views.

If we can agree that most liberals vote Democrat and most conservatives vote Republican then you can see that the ratio of liberal Atheists far outweighs conservatives. These are the people who hate/dislike Jesus and the like.
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i wasn't using 'dislike' as a synonym for 'hate'. i thought: the poll wouldn't get featured if the question said 'hate', but 'dislike' in the extreme is close to hate.

i think it's a stretch to say that atheists are the people who hate Jesus. a few might, but why would most care about Jesus at all? i stand by my prediction that very few people in the world hate Jesus.
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Oh they care about Jesus very much. They hate/dislike his name even being mentioned in public schools and other forums. They want to silence anyone talks about Christ outside a church (unless it’s mocking or disrespecting his doctrine or his followers - then they’re OK with it).
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after the Overview, it goes on to list the broad categories of people who don't hate him.
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What makes a meme "right" to your? The author saying it is right, must make it correct then.
What makes a meme correct ?
Is it factual? By what measure of criteria?
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i'll take that as a yes.
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oh gosh no. many authors have no idea what their talking about. i was simply implying that this meme is in line with reality. Jesus had liberal views (and conservative views too, at least as presented by the Bible). do you disagree? (i'm worried that you're one of those people who simply likes to argue. what a waste of time that would be.)
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There are many things one worries and experiences severe anxiety for,
and one could be quickly concerned that you are sharing that you are experiencing such; and are unaware that there is help out there for such conditions in a medical facility. One hopes people in such a situtation seek out the help they so desperately and critically need in their moment of crisis, during marginalization and vulnerability.
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correction: do you really know that most liberals consider the idea of 'LGBTF+ lifestyle = immoral' to be hate speech?
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Hope this answers your question.
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it sort of does. 'many advocacy organizations, human rights agencies, and legal frameworks' is not the same as 'most liberals'. it would be fair to say that they represent many liberals, so i wouldn't argue with that.
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What does ChuckieTheLunchBot say ?
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Urbie's drunk?
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Chuckie the BOT BOT BOT BOT BOT BOT BOT BOT
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28597 Nice try Charlie the minimal "Alt Account" BOT
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didn't you used to be reasonable?
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Meek, weak, yet meager
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Agreed
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