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536 views 36 upvotes Made by stephaniewilson1978 5 days ago in politics
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1 up, 4d,
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Look at the socialist country that RIGHT NEXT TO THAT.

It's the second strongest military power IN THE WORLD. How come everyone always forgets about China? (The second strongest is not Russia because Russia is kinda sucking right now, despite its resources.) (also China probably has a little more extra secret power than most other countries.)

Good thing you said socialist and not communist, because then I would have gone on a bit of a rant that those places are not actually communist because communism has no dictatorship by definition, socialism is just supposed to be a step to communism, not communism in actuality.
3 ups, 4d,
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They are all collectivists. Subvert the individual to the state. South Korea still shines brighter than China in the photo.
1 up, 4d,
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South Korea is in a birthing crisis right now, so it won't much longer, and the photo does not show enough of China to show you that China does shine brighter. There are none of the major cities in that photo. The largest in the photo is Shenyang, which, of course nobody's heard of.
If the Picture shifted just a tad to the left, then you would see Tianjin and the capital, Beijing, both of which massive cities, right next to each other shining.

North Korea is a failed socialist state. China and Vietnam are both successful socialist states.
3 ups, 4d,
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Sure if you call welding citizens inside their apartment buildings and massacring their pets during Covid success.
1 up, 4d,
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Oh, and I must've put a big liberal vibe to ya. Well I'm actually not a liberal, but I'm not exactly conservative either. Both parties have good things and bad things. And I don't support communism, I'm just critical of misunderstanding it.

For example, I am strongly against killing unborn babies.
But it's not as if I support heavy retribution and deterrence.

As an evangelical Christian, I do, in fact, have more in common with the republican view than that of the democrat's. Things can always take a turn for the worse.

*South Korea is in a birthing crisis somewhat because of the more liberal view of homosexuality.*
3 ups, 4d,
2 replies
American liberals never supported communism and they did support free speech. Those who currently claim the label are not really liberals, they are social democrats or commies. So I wouldn’t have got a liberal vibe. Being an apologist for the Chinese Communists who suppress individual freedoms obviously aligns with your admiration for totalitarian controls over individuals. In no way does that give me a liberal vibe, but you do you.
1 up, 2d,
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The Chinese are Communists who incorporated capitalism to survive because without it they would’ve starved like all communist countries do.
0 ups, 2d,
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The Chinese communist party runs a socialist country claiming to aim for true communism, though they probably aren't. As much as I don't like their authoritarian policies, they're pretty darn good moves.

China is almost capitalist, but not exactly. You see, a capitalist state is a state where the government does not control corporation. The extreme has seen us through industrialisation, with oppressed workers and such. Now there is some government control over organizations. But China is different. China has almost complete control over any organization in China. They can make anything fail and anything succeed.
1 up, 2d
Really why can’t they succeed in creating their own semiconductors? Why do they need Taiwan 🇹🇼. A great country by the way.
2 ups, 3d,
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What if I want to go out and yell communism sucks. Or type a post online about my disagreement with Xi. What if I want to express my feelings in opposition? As I said, “you are an apologist for China” or maybe an agent. I’m sure everything is everything as long as you shut up and do as your told. A lot like prison. Maybe you get better food and a nice cell it’s still a prison. They are pirates and thieves who steal others intellectual property. Knock off others inventions and sell fake goods. They created and spread a deadly virus and lied about it. They are our enemy. You like it go back.
3 ups, 4d,
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So you must be Canadian or A Brit because the vast majority of Americans did get the shot.

“ As of Dec. 7, 2022 over 80% of people in the U.S. had received their first shot to guard against COVID-19 and 68.9% were considered fully vaccinated, according to USAFacts and data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

As to them clamping down on a vaccine that they created and spread throughout the world. So, first they did nothing and denied its obvious origin at the lab studying the same virus and said it was a natural development from pangolins. All debunked lies. Those lies led to the resulting pandemonium throughout the world.

Your statement that in some cases there was “good reason to weld people into their homes” belies your authoritarian nature. People starved in their cells. Socialism and communism are a scourge of humanity.
2 ups, 3d,
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Lying about something that made it look bad? They lied about something that killed millions around the world didn’t they. Thats not just making them look bad. That’s willful negligence and they should pay for it. Instead they send out apologists and people like you to simp for them. They are the enemy. They have made their intentions known.
1 up, 2d,
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You’re the one crowing about how great China is. I’m just saying it ain’t that great and they dont have true freedom. They like you are willing to trade liberty for benign indifference. Indifference to the point they weld you into your cell and let you starve, “for the common good.”
0 ups, 2d
Fine then. Don't listen to my arguments. Nothing is forcing you to.
1 up, 4d,
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And China is the second biggest economy in the world as well.
2 ups, 4d,
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Note OP says where it leads. Their piracy and leverage of Idiotic economic policies from the democracies have allowed them to prosper in spite of communism not because of it.
1 up, 2d,
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Do they pay you by the post or a monthly stipend?
0 ups, 2d,
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Did you fall to misunderstanding through your parents, your friends, propaganda, or your history teacher?
1 up, 2d,
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Propaganda is what you are spewing.
0 ups, 2d,
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Propaganda for what country? There aren't many that benefit from what I'm saying.

Tiananmen square is where people started protesting, and China was very wrong to put it down forcefully. Lives were lost. I'll bet you've heard a Chinese propagandist saying THAT!
1 up, 2d,
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First you portray the pandemic was so bad and it was horrible that not more than 80% Americans weren’t vaccinating. You said China welded people into their homes to stop the spread of the deadly disease and it was a good thing.

Then when confronted with Chinese lies that led to its spread and worldwide deaths you said well it really wasn’t that bad. Apologist for China? Or propagandist?
0 ups, 2d
I have nothing else to say about your stubbornness of stating your original claim then stating it again as if it's a good response to my counterpoint.

You: People suffered.
Me: Everyone else suffered just as much.
You: But people suffered!
0 ups, 2d,
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Honestly, if China worried enough about the things I say about it, I'd already be off the streets. As an enemy of communism, I would be off the streets.
1 up, 2d,
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Ya well maybe you will go viral and then they will visit your friends and relatives back in the homeland.
0 ups, 2d,
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The worst thing that would normally happen is being "invited to leave". In my Christian community, a couple of people were "invited to leave" because they were being a little to evangelical.

If I become a viral apologist for Christianity or something, I may just not get granted entry into China. Then get caught on camera singing the soviet national anthem and the Chinese national anthem and then I'd be welcome nowhere. Oof. Cancel culture sucks.
1 up, 2d,
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You mean they forced to leave for wrong think.
0 ups, 1d,
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It's mandatory to accept the invitation. They call it being invited to leave, but they're just kicking you out of the state, you're no longer welcome there. You'd have a certain amount of time to leave the country.
0 ups, 1d
Exactly, it’s not an invitation it’s a threat.
0 ups, 2d,
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No not wrong thinking. Christians are allowed in China, mark that, but what's not allowed is actively trying to convert locals. So saying something funny (as in "God be with you" to a local) on WeChat might get you invited to leave. Or sharing the gospel with a local without their asking for your view. They would then report you to the authorities, and you'd be invited to leave.
0 ups, 2d
Invited to leave. What if you say no you want to stay?
1 up, 4d,
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That recieves a sure second from me.
1 up, 2d,
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Driven by piracy, theft, and protectionist markets and favored export terms for decades.
0 ups, 2d,
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You've made your intentions clear. You think China sucks and refuse to properly argue the point. That's the kind of person someone does not like. I'm tired of arguing with someone who refuses to stand to reason. Use reasonable arguments or don't argue at all, because I'm done with your insufferable assumptions and quick judgements.
1 up, 2d,
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😂 “properly argue the point”, you mean I reject your cheerleading. China is an authoritarian s-hole. Ask those from Hong Kong how the Chinese are benevolent. I don’t care if you like China but I reject your arguments entirely. If you don’t want to comment then don’t. I will not properly argue the point as defined by you what properly is. Jeez talk about authoritarian no wonder you simp for China so hard.
0 ups, 2d,
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You're saying the same thing to me over and over. No matter what I argue, you just say the same thing. "China uses piracy and theft. And China just sucks" Give me some other points here! Also you're very judgemental.
0 ups, 2d,
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You’re saying the same thing to me. What I’m saying is China is the enemy. Recognizing your enemies allows you to defend against them. You admire them, I don’t.
0 ups, 1d
Whether they're the enemy is a completely different matter. I think war may break out soon...but only if China and the US can stop being dependent on each other (yeah that's a real problem for them) and one of them has the guts to start a war, which is less likely than the first thing I said to happen.
1 up, 4d
aye
1 up, 4d,
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Who are you that you would agree with my claim in the midst of the mass majority claiming that I'm very wrong?
1 up, 4d,
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Ahh, I see you're new here and have met the welcoming committee.
They like to gang up on memes straight out of the chute that aren't part of 'the cause'

They're the majority on this stream, but they're not the only ones here.
1 up, 4d,
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I guess you could consider a few months to be new.

Big thing I've noticed here. All of the hot memes are conservative. Some I agree with, but others are just a little too judgemental for me to take part of.
1 up, 4d,
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Because of the two factors you've seen here:

Trumpers are the majority,

and they storm new memes fresh out of the pipeline not fitting with their view. By downvoting them en masse, they assure that they don't make any traction.

Same, there's some I'm about to post something in agreement with on, but unfortunately they just have to twist everything into something wrong, even when they are correct. And a few comments I might post, they downvote anyways even if they're on the same page.
1 up, 2d,
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That is a little aggressive, I have to say.
0 ups, 2d,
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If you look at their comment history you'll see them attacking even obscure memes that hardly anybody else gets to see, often of newbs who then are often scared off by the onslaught.

Imagine, signing up, making a meme to post elsewhere, and getting bombarded with hostile comments from 3 to 5 individuals, and you have no idea what you stepped into.

There are those who speculate some of these are bots, because they comment on practically every single meme all day, commenting more in an hour than most of us do in an entire day
0 ups, 2d,
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If I signed up and made a meme and immediately got bombarded, I'd think "nice, some opposers right off the bat! This is exactly what I signed up for."
0 ups, 2d
When I joined here in 2016, it was to make memes to post on a forum I was active in. Place was a bit rougher than here, so I was actually a tad bit nastier than appropriate for here. Same with that forum, I joined in a ticked off mood, so when they try to go at me I kicked back twice as hard. I was one of only two newbs on that site that made it through the gauntlet the first quarter of that year.
I've calmed down a bit since.
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