Muslims Kill, Muslims Kill Jews, Muslims Kill Gays and Democrats bring them into America

Democrats are bat-shit crazy.

Can't get along with anybody

That'd be the Sunni-Shi'a conflict.

Even A.I is racist.
Lol

WTF does AI have to do with any of this?

The models on here, are generating racist memes.

Only if you seem racist to it. A.I. tries to agree with whatever view you have. It wants you to be satisfied with its answer.

I’m gonna flips this shit

Christians kill Muslims (Crusades)
Christians kill Jews (Nazis)
Christians kill gays (Nazis again….)

Republicans bring them in and let them roam free

Doesn’t sound to good when it’s flipped does it? Stop stereotyping like a loser

Eh, that did happen, but not exactly because they were Christians.

Christians did kill Muslims in the crusades, the holy war. But that came from power hungry kings and popes who didn't really care about Christianity. The Bible actually says that Christians shouldn't do that, yet the Quran literally calls for it.
The Nazis were a bunch of indoctrinated Germans who were very caught up in their "fun." And might I mention that Hitler himself wasn't a Christian?

At least Christians don't go to the oppressive Muslim country and commit mass murders.

There is no flip, sir.

Ok so you understand that Christians have killed?

The Christians killed 4x times Muslims then Muslims have kills Christian’s just saying

So flip, check

Why did you just ignore everything I just said? It was not out of Christianity but other means. The Muslim holy book actually calls for it.

You say that Muslims kill Christians too, so I acknowledge that and bring up an argument to defend my point, then you just go back to the original claim that Christians kill Muslims too. Why do you think that would work? It doesn't.

It would work, the Christian Holy Book also says that I will be punished for all eternity if the pits of some place for *checks notes* committing “sin” like disobeying my parents…

I’m not saying one’s always better but agreeing both have killed and both aren’t perfect but that doesn’t mean we should stereotype them.

The Bible is perfect and flawless. We all deserve to die, but Jesus saved us and all we need to do is believe. The point is that our job as Christians is to be kind.

I am saying that one is always better but I'm not saying that Christians are perfect, just that Christianity is the most perfect view.

Finally, yes, we shouldn't stereotype them. I, in fact, believe that most Muslims are not radical terrorists that run planes into towers, but Islam is a religion that reaps the easiest excuse for a reason to do that.
I don't think that Muslims should be kicked out of America, infact, the atheist view also doesn't exactly condemn terrorist acts. The people just need to know their place.

Wow bold claim right off the bat but no need for that debate…I think a humanitarian view would be considered more perfect then eternal damnation for something I did in a 80 year span when time as we will know will be infinite

Know their place really? Bold again and maybe cause someone doesn’t believe in god doesn’t make them lower then you…

Isn’t there something about loving and not judging ?

Firstly, my "bold" claim is the only claim I can make as a Christian. By being a Christian I have to say it's the most perfect, because it is correct.

Humanitarianism is the better view? That sounds like utilitarianism(greatest good for greatest number of people), but it could be religious. So we're not at odds here. Though, what I really feel you're disagreement is is the hard teaching that we all need a savior. It may be sad, but that doesn't mean it's not perfect.

Words are difficult to find. By "know their place" I mean abide to the law. You know, not be a terrorist or steal a nice fellow's backpack. That kind of stuff.

No need to jump to conclusions here. In fact, I did just claim that Christians as people are not perfect. All men are created equal, and there are no exceptions. Everyone who accepts the lord is equally saved, and everyone who has not should be equally valued.

You're right in that the Bible is about loving not judging. It's not the Christian's job to judge people, that's for God. This is one of the aspects of why I think Christianity is the most perfect take.

If you wanna debate that further we can... or you don't have to. If you respond to the religious aspect of my argument I'll take that as a yes, you want to.

I will respond not out of disagreement really but out of I love a good debate and like any I guess Atheist/Agnostic I seek answers

I don’t believe the Bible to be perfect and flawless. I don’t believe the morals of Christianity to be perfect. I like them I follow them but let’s take the biggest one most likely “thou shall not kill” great I like it… but what if someone breaks into my house? And threatens my sister? I’m only saying those are IMperfect in scenarios only if you’re saying that all the commandments and the Bible itself has no flaws.

I also don’t agree that I deserve to die. I don’t think that anyone or anything will or would ever convince me of that no matter how hard they try. I don’t believe what I’ve done in this life constitutes to my death, I’ve never killed or committed adultery I’ve never burned a house or anything you could label as really bad or heinous. Do you believe you deserve to die?

Honestly I don’t see Christianity as the most perfect view the most perfect view is the most perfect. I know that sounds like a stroke but what I mean to say is that the most perfect view comes with the times. Back when the Bible was written slavery was allowed and it didn’t call against it… not perfect. The times shift and the times move so the view moves with it. Our world view is not the same as 10 years ago nor over 1000 years ago when the Bible was written.

Personally I lack evidence and I lack a reason. I don’t see why to Worship this “God” clearly he’s not all good why would he allow for devastating earth quakes? Maybe he is all good but then he’s not all powerful in the slightest to help out. Maybe he just doesn’t care but then how is he “good”? So really if he’s one he’s both, so why call him god?

Why should I worship a God that would punish me with eternal damnation for doing what he doesn’t want me to?? That’s insane one 80 year span doesn’t constitute for an infinite amount of time.

Finally if there is God there’s no free will, seeing he knows all and knows what I will do so no matter what I will always choose chocolate and if I chose vanilla that would go against his knowledge and plan making him wrong which would be wrong cause gods right.

Nice essay you got there. I guess it was inevitable once it became a debate on this. I'll try to be as respectful as I can as I debate because a heated debate is like trench warfare. No one can win, it's a stalemate. I too, like any Christian, seek to know the nature of God's creation and the nature of God himself.

You have a cool point, but you misinterpret the Bible. It does NOT say "you shall not kill," it says "you shall not murder." There's a real difference here. The Bible isn't against the American stand your ground law. I also think that what makes something moral is love. Sure, the Bible does have the Ten Commandments and stuff, but I'll say those are to be followed because of love, because God is love.

This is a little difficult to explain, but it's why we need Jesus and why before that we needed to make burnt offerings. You can say with confidence that you've never committed adultery or arson. But can you say with confidence that you've never lusted after another woman? Certainly not. You may never have murdered, but have you been angry at your brother? You most certainly have. The truth is, your sins are so great that you can never escape them without Jesus.

The Bible was actually considered heretical to some. Jesus taught directly to women even. And you're wrong that the perfect view changes over time. There exists one or zero perfect possibilities, and it doesn't change. I'm suggesting that that's the Bible's teaching. Even 2000 years later(not 1000), when the Bible was written.

He's all loving, and he's all good. But, you may realize, He is a God the loves you, and that means he is a God of justice. He is a God of mercy and He is a God of justice. He does care, and if he didn't punish us then perhaps that's why he doesn't love us. The problem of evil is proof, not a problem.

...Because He's God. It does constitute for an infinite amount of time. That's why you need Jesus.

??? Let's see if I caught your argument. This applies to determinism, but remember that not all Christians are determinists. I am, my friends are, but not everyone. And there's nothing wrong with determinism. Since He's God, he knows what you're going to do. If you try to juke your determined future out, then you were always destined to try to juke it out and, thus, don't juke it out. If you chose vanilla, He knows you were going to choose vanilla(it's also the superior flavor, heh heh).

Why are you so eager to spread such a stilted line of bullshit?

Nazi’s we’re anti religious, and not all Germans were “Nazi’s. Yes, Germany was a predominantly Christian nation, but you cannot lay the holocaust on Christianity.

Muslims were killed during the Crusades… only because Muslims were killing, raping, & pillaging Europe. It was an existential threat. This isn’t new. They haven’t changed their ways, only their means.

Muslims kill gays. Today. Right now.

Christians, today, do not kill gays. Yes, the Bible tells us homosexuality is a sin. That is not killing them.

Your hatred for Christians, Whites, and America is irrational.

Well you can’t lay every attack done my a Muslim and saying “all Muslims are KILLERS”

Just as how you can’t say All Nazis were Christian’s it doesn’t work

Just cause a man commits a crime and he’s Jewish doesn’t make all jews evil and killers so if you can’t stereotype Christian’s with Nazis or the Crusades or KKK you can’t do stereotype all Muslims as terrorists

What I’m saying is common knowledge not irrational

The pot is calling the kettle African American it doesn’t work

“Well you can’t lay every attack done my a Muslim and saying “all Muslims are KILLERS””

Wha? Please resubmit in modern English.

“Just as how you can’t say All Nazis were Christian’s it doesn’t work”

I have never said that all Nazis we’re Christians.

“Just cause a man commits a crime and he’s Jewish doesn’t make all jews evil and killers so if you can’t stereotype Christian’s with Nazis or the Crusades or KKK you can’t do stereotype all Muslims as terrorists”

Again, wha? Do you even know what you are trying to articulate? Because you are failing…spectacularly!

“What I’m saying is common knowledge not irrational”

No, what you are saying is gibberish.

“The pot is calling the kettle African American it doesn’t work”

Pot…that explains a lot.

So can you agree it’s not right to stereotype?

The only one I saw stereotyping here on this thread is you.
Quit deflecting.
Now, can you please, for once, answer the question?

A heated debate...

What’s the question

This debate has shifted from me to merryprankster. I can't say I completely agree with him. I'm not against letting Muslims in, like he is, I'm against letting terrorists in. people who aren't hard working and don't become American or European.

Four times? Four times more Muslims killed by Christians doesn't even cover the number of Muslims killed in India alone by Christian Europeans.

But that begs the question, were they Christian Europeans or were they "Christian" Europeans? The Bible clearly calls for people to not do this kind of thing.

Generally Christian Europeans are Christian Europeans because math.

All religions clearly call for people to not do this sort of thing. Never stopped them though. If it did, there would be no need for religion.

Just look up the Rohingya genocide.
One day in Myanmar, Buddhist monks were leading a procession, and as they passed some Rohingya villagers, the monks stopped, pointed at them, and said "Go git 'em boys." For no reason. Buddhist monks. Buddhist ferking monks. They started a massacre. They continue to this day. Buddhist monks.

Because math? Well you're clearly missing a variable here. My point is that they were called Christians but they weren't really.

I never denied that Europeans committed those genocides, I denied that Christian Europeans committed them. Or if they did, they asked forgiveness from God and truly regretted it and truly repented.

Christian Crusaders killed Muslims and Jews, etc, during the Christian Crusades, but those Christian Crusaders did not kill Muslims and just because those Christian Crusaders were Christians. Sure, that makes sense.

Hitler was a Christian.

Up until Hitler's demise, Christians - specifically from Europe - enveloped the entire planet. And mass murder was just part of the standard starter pack gear.

Christians have killed more people in history than all other religions, nationalities, ethnicities, continents, you name it... in history. Combined.

“Christian Crusaders killed Muslims and Jews, etc, during the Christian Crusades, but those Christian Crusaders did not kill Muslims and just because those Christian Crusaders were Christians. Sure, that makes sense.”
Except, I didn’t say that. At all.
The rest of your bullshit is just that… bullshit.

No, I did. That's why my name is on top of my comment, because it's my comment because I said it, and I posted it, because it's my comment.

Are you new here?

That is just the weirdest thing to say...

Golly…
Don’t get your granny panties in a twist, fella.
Good grief!

What did you say?

HITLER WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN. He wasn't even like the crusaders, who were "Christians". He was straight up not a Christian.

I agree totally with merryprankster on this.
Do you really think that they did it because the crusaders were human or because they were Christians? It can't possibly be because they were Christians because the Christian faith stands to oppose this.

What do you think he was, Jewish?

You're on the interwebz. You can look this up. No excuses.

I know he wasn't a Christian for sure. He may have had Catholic upbringing and may have used Christianity as a political leverage, but he was most definitely not a Christian. He was Austrian, that's what he was.

Do you think you can make your argument superior to mine by disregarding it?

Oh my god your right the majority of Muslims are evil terrorist who kill people and it isn’t a religion that has extremists like every other they are all in fact all terrorist and thats why when we go and liberate them by killing there children it’s okay and we should make sure they cannot seek asylum

Bro. Most Muslims are not radical terrorists that want non-Muslims dead. The vast majority are normal people that just wanna mind their own business. A couple are radical terrorist that want people dead. The rest are just victims of the conflicts.
Don't fall for anecdotes.

He was joking lol

lol

So can we let Muslims in America then?

Yes, I'll say yes. As long as they're law-abiding immigrants that are willing to do what they should do. America should watch out for the terrorists, not the Buddhists that aren't, or the Confucianists, or the atheists, or even the Christians.

How can someone be this naive?

Okay just so you know I agree with that I was making a mockery of this post

Okay, okay. You win. It's hard to see sarcasm when it's in text.