The Scroll Of Truth

As long as you say the same thing when people want to put the Ten Commandments in public schools.

Our nation was founded on the separation of church and state, but was not founded as a godless nation. It simply means the church has no say in the nations official politics.

No, it was not founded on the separation of church and state. The First Amendment prohibits Congress from establishing a federal-wide religion. It, however, allows for individual states to establish their own state religion if they so choose, as some had.

The United States was absolutely founded on separation of church and state. It states as much in the first amendment. It however did not establish a godless state but simply a separation of powers. You are confusing the colonies with the United States. After the Declaration of Independence no state adopted an official religion, though a couple continued as they had. I believe the 14th amendment further removed the states ability to establish any official religion.

No, it wasn't founded on that. If it was founded on that, it wouldn't have to be it wouldn't have to be amended to state that.
And, no, it doesn't state that. Anywhere.

The first amendment of the United states absolutely states it.

“ Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

Note the part that says no law respecting establishment of a religion. So the United States, the entity referenced in my original response, is indeed founded on the official separation of church and state.

So what I said then?

No what you said is wrong. The “United States” was indeed founded on separation of church and state.

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No, it was not founded on the separation of church and state. The First Amendment prohibits Congress from establishing a federal-wide religion. It, however, allows for individual states to establish their own state religion if they so choose, as some had."

▶️ "Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

⬛ You're literally pretending to be arguing against me by agreeing with me and posting the proof to back the facts I stated.

Thanks for playing.

😂 you forgot what side you are arguing. States may have been established without separation but the United Stares wasn’t. You do realize these are separate entities with separate foundings. It must be very confusing for you. Can step away and let you argue with yourself or you can interject one of your alts to do it.

No, I'm not.
You are.
You're attempting to argue an improvised falsehood centered on an imaginary side that's somehow against lil' ol' me because reasons.

Can't even use the excuse that subtleties of the English language aren't translating on this one when it's the same words used the same way,

I believe Bluessol is confusing an interpretation of the 1st amendment, with what it actually says. So you two are not talking about the same thing. Historically, it wasn't used that way by the founding fathers.

Yes, he is. I obviously know that already.
He doesn't. You can tell him that.

No, it means the government has no say in the Church.

I guess it means that too, but since the issue that they left in Europe was the edicts imposed by the church and enforced by the government, it was more a check on the government.

England, where our founders fled from, had the King, the leader of the state government, as the leader of the Church of England as well, So you're got that backwards.

True, but I think they were also aware of the catholic and Protestant churches histories in other countries and decided government and faith should be less linked in practice of governing.

"The Aitken Bible, printed in 1781 in Philadelphia, was the first English Bible printed in America and was recommended by Congress. Robert Aitken, an immigrant from Scotland, published the Bible, and Congress passed a resolution endorsing it. While Aitken sought to have Congress fund the project and provide him with exclusive rights to publish, neither request was granted. The Aitken Bible is significant because it represents the first American-printed English Bible and was the only Bible ever authorized by an act of Congress."

They had big links and much of us laws were founded on Christian philosophy.