This is not how women get preggers people. And if it was, God SA'ed Mary. And she was betrothed to another man. Let it sink in.

Not to mention Mary was 𝒂𝒕 𝒃𝒆𝒔𝒕 16 years old.

Yep, and God basically had the Holy Spirit impregnate her while she was betrothed to another man.

She wasn't asked or given a chance to refuse -- she was told what would happen by a supremely powerful being that appeared to her. Would it have done her any good to argue? Hell, look at Zechariah, the father of John the Baptist. When he was told that his post menopausal wife would give birth to Johhny, all he did was ask "How? She's old!" and he was struck with muteness. Mary had no choice but to say Okie Dokie. It would be like if a robber said, "Give me your money, now." And I said, "Okay, here you go." And they tried to argue in court that I clearly consented, because after they demanded it from me, I gave in.

I hate the surrender songs where they say, "god let your will be done" or "I belong to you alone"

It's basically a CNC chant and I f**king hate it.

Forgive my ignorance. CNC?

Consensual non-consent

It's usually a kink thing where people consent to the other person doing whatever they want, even when asked not to.

I was describing it as Christians permitting god to do whatever he wants to them, even if it's a horrible thing they don't want.

You guys just don’t understand, you have been led astray from the path of God I pray to lord for you

Sounds like something a cultist would say.

"You won't understand unless you're a true follower," said the man with the Kool-Aid container

I bet you look as bad as you are at making comebacks. You're so basic, I bet your favorite spice is flour

You think you know everything, but the fact is you're just as blind as the rest of us. You're so focused on your own narrow understanding of the world that you're missing out on the wonder and complexity of the universe. Maybe one day you'll open your mind and see that there's more to life than just cold, hard science, God is REAL

Neither of us knows everything, but the difference between you and me is that I look for evidence to support my claims while you base everything on faith.

I would say I'm pretty open-minded. How about you? Would you like to tell me about the books you've read that come from an atheist's perspective?

Every bit as real as Santa Claus.
And if you're going to put words into other people's mouths, go play pretend somewhere else. Dude never claimed to know everything. That, along with bad comebacks, appears to be your purview. But hey, at least you're hypocritical about it.

I love the ragebait accounts that show up in this stream every so often, they make this stream a little more interesting.

says the person who thinks they are “Hannibal Lecher”💀

Personal attacks are a great indicator that you have nothing to contribute to any civilized and constructive discussion.

Matthew 5:11-12 says, “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."

Yes, I eat baking flour by the handful.

Ah, thanks. I'd make a joke about Christians "giving" themselves to god since he was going to have his way with them no matter what, but that shit is too dark even for me.

Maybe the act of giving permission makes them feel better knowing they have absolutely ZERO control over what their god does.

mind following me so we can memechat? I just noticed your other streams.

Sure

It begins to sound like Stockholm Syndrome. "Oh, he does it because he LOVES me. It's my fault for making him do this. If only I was better...I'm lucky he puts up with me." Meanwhile god be like "you better not be looking at other gods or I'll kill you forever. Hey, worship me when I'm punishing you!" It's like a BDSM scene gone wrong. Oof

It's painful to hear justifications for horrible events in history.

I go to a Christian school, and in history classes we would often ask, "Why would god let this happen?" and find a reason for a horrible event in history.

The Christian god has to be one of the most insecure characters written.

100%

She was given a choice to refuse, She just Loved god so much she accepted it. that’s how much God is good but I honestly think that God is kinda Homophobic so i’m between being an atheist and Christian/Jewish

No, she wasn't. The justifications for her "consent" show how bad these people are.

The Christian god is VERY homophobic and misogynistic, especially in the OT.

Honestly i’m not gonna say i’m an atheist but I don’t belive in a “Homophobic God” But I still belive in God

This is an object lesson in the difference between belief and fact. You can choose your beliefs, eg. the way you choose to believe in god based on whether or not you agree with his policies towards homosexuality.

You cannot choose facts. Believing that things exist based on whether or not you believe in them is called magical thinking. The only thing you can will into existence simply by believing in it is the belief itself, and even then only for yourself. This is why people say that faith is a deeply personal thing.

This is also why atheists get so frustrated when theists presume to leverage their faith (personal beliefs that hold true only for them) against facts (objective phenomena that hold true for everyone). It's also why I want to puke every time some new world Christian replies to the theory of evolution by referencing a book of mythology i.e. the bible. It's like going to a crime scene and telling the forensics team that their evidence is bogus because the REAL scoop came from a talking snake and a flying Jew that only REALLY exist as personal beliefs.

No, no she wasn't. Full stop. The story (and that's all it is, NOT reality, NOT history) is that she was told what would happen. But like most people, you fail to read your BuyBull. Luke 1:29 Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30 But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. 31 YOU WILL CONCEIVE AND GIVE BIRTH TO A SON, and you are to call him Jesus." She was told what would happen and she didn't even get to name the spawn of her own va**na! Oddly enough, when SHE questioned it asking, "How will this be since I am a virgin?” Was Mary struck with muteness? Oh hell no. Zechariah on the other hand, was struck with muteness for asking how his post menopausal wife was to give birth to John the Baptist. The little god of the BuyBull is a capricious prick.