Apologists can't cope with the inconsistencies in their buybull so they claim inconsistecies = TRUTH? LOL, umm no.

A common apologist response when faced with all the disparities and contradictions in the gospels is “If all four gospels were exactly the same, the atheist/agnostic argument would be ‘they all colluded to get their story straight.’ Rather, you have four different letters written by four different authors, with four different backgrounds/education, to four different audiences. It IS historically accurate.”

What a load of horse manure.

The gist of this argument is that inconsistency about all sorts of details is a sign of truth…and you and I both know that inconsistent testimony is evidence of the exact opposite. They NEVER address any of the data points … the number of women present, why they were going to the tomb, who was there, how many angels, what time they went, whether the sun was shining or not, whether the stone was rolled away when they arrived or rolled away after they arrived, whether there was an unrecorded earthquake, whether the graves were opened and zombies walked around, what the angels (young men?) said, were they inside the tomb or outside the tomb, were they sitting on the stone or on the bed or were they standing, was Jesus present or not, etc. etc. etc. They want to say that the “basics” of the story are the same … that he died by crucifixion and was raised from the dead and this is the only thing that matters.

It isn’t.

The list of incompatibilities, inaccuracies, and outlandish tales is long and the mental gymnastics it would take to force it to work due to the “perspectives of the writers and their intended audiences” would most likely cause a thinking apologist to have to rightly question his/her own faith in this scenario.

But they don’t want to do that. One even told me, "PLEASE let me believe" as if I had any say in that matter. They just don't want to face the truth or the facts or the evidence.

Cellular necrosis is an irreversible process.

Look I'm not going to explain everything because there's a better answer, That things made by humans will always have some small mistakes, and no god didn't puppeteer them to make the texts

So god isn’t in total control…got it.

He is he just isn't puppeteering the apostle free will remember

No, your own church believes the buybull was "inspired" by god. But it was inspired by men, writing fan fiction to prop up Paul's deranged visions and ramblings. I guess you should take it up with your church?

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law...” (Matthew 5:17-18). In these verses, Jesus is reinforcing the accuracy of the scriptures down to the smallest detail and the slightest punctuation mark, because it is the very word of god.

Nice try ... but your buybull is 100% man conceived, man written, and spologist defended.

Yes, he's not saying there are no minor mistakes, he's saying that the Law not the entire thing is accurate

Nice pivot. Was he referring to the law about how to sell your daughter into slavery or the one about how much you can beat your slaves? Remember, there were many more than just 10 commandements in Exodus 34 (the list you know nothing about) but there were approximately 613 other "laws" that buybullgod gave to Moses (another fiction character not found in history).

Four words, moral law ceremonial law

Hahaha. That's only three. And Jesus didn't make that distinction. YOU did. Your youtube apologists did. I guess you guys all speak for your god.....

So? Jesus didn't make the distinction between catholic and orthodox

Talk about a non-sequitur. You are the best at logical fallacies I've ever encountered!

Whose gonna read all of that

People with more than half a brain?
People unafraid of learning something?
People who know how to use logic?
(All that seems to exclude many Christians)

Yeah funfact: There is no evidence of the bible being accurate before the 800s BCE

Or after …
Another fun fact: the Hebrew language didn’t even exist until 800-600 BCE.

And how did everyone reach the americas in just 1000 years?

Walking? Boats? I have no idea.

I canr explain this all at once so https://youtube.com/@testifyapologetics?si=5vThtvUssNQCRyQE

LOL, some unemployed, stupid YouTube apologist…making excuses for a book written 2000-3000 years ago by middle eastern shaman goat humpers.

How does him being unemployed effect anything

Lets focus on STUPID instead.

Ok then

They all told the story in their way lol. Like if one book mentions 2 angels, and another mentions 1 angel, both books have 1 angel. Same story

There were two bank robbers. There was only one bank robber. “LOL”

Were the angels standing or sitting? Were they inside the tomb or outside the tomb?Was it actually angels or just “young men”? Was Jesus there or not? Did zombies come out of the ground and wonder around the city? Were there unrecorded earthquakes (only Matthew makes this ) or did he copy some of the myths surrounding the death of Julius Caesar?

What you’re saying is so full of fallacy and delusion. It’s hilarious. One gospel says the sun had not risen but another gospel says the sun was already up. What you’re saying is that inconsistency is a sign of truth. No one buys that bull crap.

The resurrection is like saying someone stole my car. Upon questioning, I say it was a Mexican who walked up and stole it while I was at a gas station. My second story is that two Mexicans drove up in a pickup truck, one jumped out and stole it while I was getting fuel at a gas station. My third story is that a black guy wearing a gray hoodie with three friends stole my car while it was parked at a fast food place next door to a gas station. My fourth story is that a white woman stole my car while I was in a Walmart parking lot and she peeled out of the parking lot while laughing at me.

Which story is the truth? Are any of them true? As an investigator, what is more likely -- that all of them are true or is it more likely that all of them are false? Was there even a car stolen? You can’t say “well the central part of the story is about a stolen car.” NO. Period. The central part of the story is that none of it matches anything and is most likely fiction. And later you discover that I’d been watching a lot of movies about stolen cars and had a vision, uh, err, I mean a dream that my car had been stolen…

Yet Christian apologists say that all the stories are true, they’re just told from different viewpoints. But remember, this is supposedly THE pivotal event of human history … and the most powerful being in the universe is supposedly dictating/revealing/”inspiring” this information to four men, three of whom were supposed witnesses to this pivotal event, and they couldn’t get their stories straight? Remember, ALL these stories were written AFTER Paul had been preaching his gospel for over 20 years … the gospels were written to prop up his psychosis.

Thats different from the Bible ofc... the stories will match if you look carefully. It doesn't say anything like "there was only 1 angel" it would say something like "there was an angel"
Also the angels sometimes take form of young men like they did with Abraham. So either is fine
And "zombies?" Sure I guess... the saints in that cemetery all rose from the dead and came into the city. Jesus rose dead people while he was a person on earth so it makes sense

Dude, if you believe that, I feel sorry for you. Your brain has been hijacked.

Well I don't see you countering my argument

You don’t have an argument. You have a Jewish myth that you believe is a real historical event. Even your Bible says that it takes the mouths of two or more witnesses for something to be considered true yet only the book of Matthew reports to have zombies walking around the city of Jerusalem. So you break your own laws. Not to mention the fact that you might as well believe the chronicles of Narnia.

Do you believe that Mohammed flew a winged horse up to heaven? No, that’s just not believable. But yet you do believe in the magic stories told in your Jewish Bible that are just as crazy. Give me a break. It’s time for humanity to grow up and jettison all this religious crap.

Nothing in the Bible is believable. It’s historical fiction, fan fiction, and man-made stories just like the Koran or the Chronicles of Narnia.

We don't believe every story from the ground up like that. First, you take what we know about God. He made everything, he's perfectly holy, and he never lies. Then, you prove the bible is his written word. Once you have all that, you can trust the rest. We don't need eyewitness accounts for the Saints rising from the dead, because we already know the entire Bible came from God

That is so cringe. You don’t know anything. You only believe. And there is a vast difference.

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Then what about the essay

Where is this birth? If it was a birth through adultery than it would be a sin

Oh shit, did you really just advocate murdering a baby? You AND your little puny petulant worthless god are both monsters. Apparently you don't really read your buybull much do you? I'm done talking with you, you hypocrite. Don't contact me again. You make me want to puke with your fake religiosity.

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God doesn't change his mind. And outside factors doesn't change who he is.
And saying that without faith it is impossible to please God, that's true. Faith is believing everything God promises even though they didn't come to pass yet. It's about knowing God exists, and you trusting what he says because you know his holy, truthful character. Even though there's a lot of things we can scientifically prove, we can't prove everything with historical evidence. The faith comes after you know that God is real and is who he says he is. Once you have that, you know that everything he declares is true

Your own bible says the precise exact opposite. I gave you a list of verses. But Divine Command Theory and all. Maybe you don't believe your bible when you read it?
Literally ... GOD REPENTED -- which means God Changed His Mind. LOL you are hilariously coping.

Besides, it can be more than just faith. Check out the essay I wrote in this comment section imgflip.com/i/9jrsri?nerp=1739822177#com35451808
And then there's also this comment

Try again:
Paleographic and epigraphic examination of the ossuary by the Israeli Division of Identification and Forensic Science has indicated this is a forgery. The box itself dates back correctly, but the writings do not. The inscriptions were done in a different time period, using different methods, by different individuals, carving different depths.

The fact that 99.9% of apologists don't reference this (for fear of embarrassment?) speaks volumes alone.

And LOL, 😂😂, the most common names for Hebrew males were James (Yakov), Joseph (Yosef), and the J-man himself, the dude who defied physics, pissed off the establishment, and got himself killed but not biggie, he knew he'd rise again, Jesus (Yeshua).

Pathetic forgery.

In that case, it's super hard to believe that the bone box is really fake... every unbeliever doesn't like the idea of god because they love their sinful lifestyles too much. Same goes for important people

There's no "believing the bone box is fake" the evidence proves it is a forgery. You're again confused between knowing and believing.

And you're presenting just another Christian cope and the opposite of reality. Just admit that no amount of evidence to the contrary of your beliefs will ever dissuade you from them. The box is real. The inscription is real. But the inscription is proven by evidence, BY EVIDENCE, to have been added at a later date, by different people, using different methods and is a forgery as presented. Shroud of Turin anyone?

You are embarrassing yourself. Stop.

I dont know if the Israeli Division of Identification and Forensic Science is christian or not, even if they're about Israel

Hahahahaha! I can tell you, they're definitely NOT Christian. But they are a division of the Israeli Police Force, and were tasked with the outfight FRAUD you presented as evidence and found, like always, it was FRAUD. Sheesh man. Wake the F up. You've been duped into this whole Christian thing.

I can't make you read what I have to say if you don't want to ig

Go away child murderer
Your testimony is dog shit

I worded it differently, but that is what the box said. Yosef and Jacob. As for the box being fake, I don't at all believe that yet. Big companies lie all the time to push god out of the picture

Cope.
Dude, this was the Israeli Division of Identification and Forensic Science.
Not a company. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

...and Yeshua. Jacob/James, some of Yosef, brother of Yeshua

And it was FAKED.

Yeah I'll admit I don't know what it means when god says he repents lol
Mayhe it means he won't ever do it again
Just like Noah's flood

LOL, I've been doing this over 50 years and I'm writing a book on it. But don't trust anything I say or write. Look it up yourself and most of all, do what Christian apologists despise: use logic and think for yourself.

Ponder this: Is giving birth to a child sinful? OF COURSE NOT!!! Then why does god command the woman that, after giving birth, she has to kill a lamb and a dove as a sin offering? A "sin" offering ... looks like she sinned by delivering a child otherwise why command the "sin" offering. Weird that he didn't tell that to Eve or any of the thousands and thousands of women who gave birth between Genesis 1 and Leviticus 12:6-7. Why would god allow all those females to get away with that? And why didn't Jesus tell this this was a load of bologna?

But despite god telling her to perform a SIN offering, god command us to "be fruitful and multiply" so it looks logically like he commanded us to sin since the result of "being fruitful and multiplying" causes women to give birth and have to kill a lamb and a dove as a SIN offering. And later, the Super Apostle, Paul says women are "saved" by childbearing. (If it was sinful, they couldn't be saved by it, right -- I mean how does sinning "save" anyone?). The exact verse "Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing." 1 Timothy 2:15

Think.

Those are some weewy hurtful words, but like... you can read the essay I have proof on

Your “proof” is laughable dog shit. Not even worth responding to someone who belongs in a mental hospital. Don’t reply … oh wait. You have to or you’ll go to hell. LOL. You have that deep seated Xtian NEED to get in the last word. F**k off loser. F**k all the way off with your god who murders children with you condoning it. F**k off.

run away if you want bro

I’m not your bro you coward. You disgusting coward. You disgust me beyond belief. Go wallow in your fake God maybe he will give you some sort of resolution because it’s all in your mind. You’re a disgusting human being.

This chart 😂😂
We can only conclude a prayer AFTER we know God exists. Prayer isn't how we prove it

One day you'll wake up and see how silly and stupid it is to let 2,000 - 3,000 year old Middle Eastern shamanic goat herders dictate your life. They couldn't even get their own stories straight.

God repents. God changes his mind. God changes his plans based on what a man does/doesn't do. God is as fickle as any human and more like a petulant child.
Genesis 6:6
Exodus 32:14
Deuteronomy 32:36
1 Samuel 15:11
2 Samuel 24:16
1 Chronicles 21:15
Isaiah 38:1-5
Jeremiah 15:6
Amos 7:3
Jonah 3:10

And also, for good measure, you may want to re-evaluate the whole science and religion thing. I'd say "rethink" but that would imply thinking had already occurred and we both know that didn't happen. In your buybull, Hebrews 11:6 says “without faith it is impossible to please God”, right? If that’s the case, why try so hard to make a scientific case? Faith and science are diametrically opposed BY DEFINITION. In science, NOTHING is assumed on the basis of faith. But you assume everything in the buybull is true because ... its the buybull and God doesn't lie so it has to be true (definition of circular reasoning). You have faith in your religion (faith in your faith) because real scientific … actual … evidence is non-existent. Faith is the stuff you have because the “evidence is unseen” according to Hebrews 11:1. If that evidence is unseen, that means it exists only in your own mind. So stop trying to use science to prove your religion because only the smooth brained are buying it. Oh, and historical fiction has existed for centuries prior to the buybull and your writers simply followed suite. Mentioning a city or person that actually existed is like John Grisham's book, The Firm, where he writes about a couple of scenes in Memphis. Although, it IS possible that in 5,000 years someone will create a religion worshipping Mitch McDeere...

A couple of years back, the Hobby Lobby crackpot CEO (he funds The Museum of the Bible) bought some "manuscripts" that he said were going to prove the validity of the buybull but again, Christians got punked. Again! Happens over and over because you guys are beyond gullible when it comes to your religion. David Green also got fined millions for the illegal smuggling operation that looted thousands of antiquities from Iraq.