They really got em this time

Upvoted. But correction; the Dem Party's leadership and elites -- including the fanatically leftist loyal Mainstream Media -- are blaming Republicans; but the average Democrat voter -- according to a variety of polling that includes leftist polling -- are blaming Joe Biden specifically and the Dem Party's leadership in general.

What, just because they sabotaged a bill that gave them everything they asked for just so they run on the border in '24?

As everyone but leftists now seem to know, Joe Biden ALREADY has the power by the laws on the books and the Constitution itself to secure the border. This is why the average Dem Party citizen is not angry that the bogus -- give massive amounts of money to other nations -- border bill did not pass.

If that were true, Congressional Republicans wouldn't be able to run on the border - but here we are.

That reply made no sense whatsoever.

Of course it does - Legislators write laws, Executives enforce them - if, as you claim, the President was already granted the necessary powers by law, there would be no reason to vote for Republicans to "secure the border".

You'd only need to vote for a President who would use those powers.

The argument is self-defeating.

https://myattorneyusa.com/scope-and-history-of-section-212f-presidential-authority-to-suspendrestrict-entry-by-proclamation

Section 212(f) of the INA reads as follows:

f. Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

You will never get a leftist to embrace this fact.

Whether a President has the power to suspend entry isn't the problem - it's the fact that the 'solution' only addresses the symptom while doing nothing to address the complex societal issues that led to that symptom.

But then we know conservatives are prone to magical thinking on most subjects.

There is no complex societal issue. If you are illegally entering the United States then you are committing a criminal act and need to be barred entry or if found already inside the nation, be deported.

Leftist magical thinking is WHY leftist sanctuary cities are on the edge of fiscal collapse by not only embracing hordes of illegals but giving them 'free' everything at taxpayers' expense.

Again, you're proposing a band-aid for a gunshot wound, without realizing it's in the face of a dead toddler or asking why his sibling had access to the gun.

Of course there are complex societal issues at play or we would have solved the problem already.

Trump had the solution -- now more Dem voters say we NEED the wall than don't -- and the political Left did everything possible to stop him from applying the Law of the Land and the Constitution to the problem. Joe Biden DELIBERATELY let something between 6 and 10 million illegals into this nation for political reasons while blatantly lying to the nation and claiming that he wasn't doing what he was doing.

Trump's "solution" was to illegally stop processing refugee requests which caused the border crisis in the first place. The law of the land (and the world since we wrote the international treaty for handling of refugees) is to evaluate their claims and take them in if they qualify.

Biden's handling of the border, like that of the pandemic, is a long and difficult process of made more so by the fact that Trump, either purposely or just through phenomenal ineptitude, sabotaged the infrastructure designed to address those issues.

If you believe Joe is letting illegals in for political reasons, do I have a bridge for you.

I don't understand. Are you wanting us to invade south America?

Viewing Latin America as a supply-side issue is what got us here in the first place - no, we do it by addressing the domestic demand for illegal labor and through diplomacy and sanctions to stabilize the nations these people are leaving.

Are we pretending this worked when Trump tried it? Suspending entry doesn't stop refugees or immigrants from crossing, which is why Republicans in congress wanted to create a new border authority to respond to spikes in encounters, funding for the critically congested asylum infrastructure, changes to the detention system and its practices, and funding for physical deterrents that would limit crossings.

But when given all of these things without having to give up anything to Democrats what did the GOP do?

They put their single-issue 2024 campaigns over the wellbeing of the United States.

Title 42 worked great. Biden’s first executive order was to end this… Surprise surprise, illegal immigration increased. There are literal known illegal crossing points. They could be secured any day by executive order, but no, our administration lets the illegal crossings continue…

Here is exactly why (article is from NY Times but behind paywall on their website):

“We can Replace Them”
https://www.pressreader.com/usa/las-vegas-review-journal/20181102/282621738720771

The “Great Replacement Theory” seems to be a reality, not a theory. If that’s what it takes for the left to maintain power, I respect their commitment to the goal, our country’s well being be damned..

The fact that liberal media has attempted to twist the left’s open border policies to be the fault of the party fighting to close them is absolutely hilarious.

For Pete’s sake, please open your eyes and at least consider the facts I have put in front of you.

Lastly, MOST politicians on both sides are corrupt AF. The right won’t solve the problems, and the left seems to keep creating them. At least we can see some truth if we look hard enough.

Title 42 isn't immigration law (even if Trump misused it as one) and requires its use to stop the "introduction of communicable diseases", yet by the time Trump began abusing that statute, the USA was already the world's largest hotspot for COVID.

Doing our duty by international treaty to process refugees is not an "open border", and we've deported more people in three years of Biden than four of Trump - the fact that Republicans just rejected being handed everything they've asked for should more than adequately demonstrate this is just an evergreen campaign issue for them to con gullible voters with.