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Blood from Civilian Deaths exacted by the notoriously cruel Russians will be on GOP hands.

Blood from Civilian Deaths exacted by the notoriously cruel Russians will be on GOP hands. | HISTORY WILL RECORD THAT AVDIIVKA WAS LOST TO THE RUSSIANS NOT BY ZELENSKY. BUT TRUMP, JOHNSON AND MAGA EXTREMIST COWARDS. UKRAINE HELD OFF THE LARGER AND WELL-ARMED RUSSIAN ARMY TWO YEARS LONGER THAN THEY WERE EXPECTED TO. WITH BULLETS AND OTHER WEAPONS RUNNING OUT AND THE GOP BLOCKING A US RESUPPLY BILL, UKRAINE HAD TO RETREAT. | image tagged in politics | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
232 views 2 upvotes Made by LarryCaird 2 years ago in politics
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3 ups, 2y,
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Ridiculous Larry... Zelenskyy is running out of canon fodder...
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Russia has lost about 15 fighters for each Ukranian soldier they have killed.
1 up, 2y
Too bad you can't admit the truth... Zelenskyy doesn't have the manpower to win...
3 ups, 2y
And the USA is lost due to the Democrats leaving the border wide open.
2 ups, 2y,
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Question:

What would Ukraine have done had the US not honored its agreement with them just as Ukraine did not honor its agreement with Russia?

I think the honest answer, acted upon, would have proven to have prevented bloodshed and what little destruction there has been.

Instead of the US mediating through diplomacy, they gave a gun and encouragement to their "little brother" to fight back against the "school bully", so to speak.

Casting the Ukrainian people into eternal indebtedness by goading them into an unwinnable war benefits whom?
0 ups, 2y,
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Agreements were entered into by Putin's puppet government, which Paul Manafort helped win office when he worked for Konstantin Kilimnik, a Putin operative. When that group openly murdered peaceful demonstrators, the Ukranian Parliament held elections that put Zelensky into office. He was not obligated to keep the agreements of his pro-Russian predecessor. Freedom is never free. Many in Ukraine think it is worth the cost.
2 ups, 2y,
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That did not answer the question posed.

You merely presented a straw man fallacy

You are suggesting treaties signed by world leaders do not have to be honored by a newly elected leader?

Interesting.

Using this reasoning, there was no obligation on the part of any future US president to honor the protection agreement made with Ukraine in the 80s or 90s...whenever it was that they gave up their nuclear weapons after the USSR collapsed.

Zelensky had agreed himself to the agreements, "Minsk", I believe, but reneged after the US injected itself and counseled him to not comply.

At least from what I had read in the last few years.
2 ups, 2y
Perhaps you posted a red herring fallacy.

Either way, you avoided the question.

There are many more in Ukraine that do not think it was worth it.

If we could question the dead we could get an even better popularity poll number on this.
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HISTORY WILL RECORD THAT AVDIIVKA WAS LOST TO THE RUSSIANS NOT BY ZELENSKY. BUT TRUMP, JOHNSON AND MAGA EXTREMIST COWARDS. UKRAINE HELD OFF THE LARGER AND WELL-ARMED RUSSIAN ARMY TWO YEARS LONGER THAN THEY WERE EXPECTED TO. WITH BULLETS AND OTHER WEAPONS RUNNING OUT AND THE GOP BLOCKING A US RESUPPLY BILL, UKRAINE HAD TO RETREAT.