Those who do not learn from history...

Zbigniew Brzezinskis book "the grand chessboard" made the argument that one of the greatest threats to united states hegemony was if russia and china developed beneficial relations.

the neocons and their absolute failure of foreign policy over the past twenty years has practically pushed those two nations together,so much so that other countries have begun to form a coalition that is cutting the united states OUT of the equation

at least trump resisted.
biden has practically given those neocon ghouls a blank check

and who do you think is going to pay the price?
we are..

What? Lol. Trump was Putin's Simp.

It seems to me you're projecting propaganda. I think you mean compliant. Complicit is when you're helping to commit a crime. Stating that Trump was Putin's Simp, is not a crime; it's protected speech under the First Amendment. Obedience and compliance have nothing to do with stating the facts. Trump spoke praises of Putin and Kim Jung Un (Or however you spell that dictator's name). So even though your feelings are at stake over the matter, facts don't care about your feelings.

compliant...
that's what i meant.

ah well..
stay stupid dude.

but thanks for pointing that out to me.

Don't you think it's kinda silly to call me stupid when in this exchange you made the error that I had to point out to you?

a mis-used word is just that.
it does take the punch away..sure.
which is why i found it funny.

but if you are STILL buying that russiagate bullshit after all these years,and viewing visiting a NUCLEAR POWERED nation,no matter how venal and authoritarian,as somehow being a bad diplomatic move.

then yeah.
you are pretty dumb.
or willingly ignorant.

and understand i am no trumper.
i bought the russiagate narrative in the beginning.
never bought the north korea hysteria from the get go,i immediately thought that was stupid.

ignorance is curable.
stupid is forever.

step out of your echo chamber once in awhile bro.

Step out of my echo chamber? Do you think this is my echo chamber? Perhaps you should step out of yours.

I'd like to see how you feel that ignorance is "curable" and stupid is "forever."

As for your "but if you are STILL..." paragraph, I got the first sentence, but everything after that was a wash of white noise in incomprehensible English due to poor sentence structure. I mean, in complete honesty, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

The fact that you write off Russiagate without knowing what to write-off is also quite telling as no one held onto russiagate after the Mueller Report came out. But then you wonder, (I would hope) "What were they clamoring about?" Well, you see, that's the thing. You were only focused on one thing because thats what your news media told you to believe. (You had to learn from somewhere, right? Learned from your circle of friends/family? Where'd they learn it from) I don't know if I should bother trying to explain the issue that came from Russia-gate... I get the feeling it would be a waste of time because as we've established, I'm in your echo chamber. You hear what you wanna hear.

Right?

i bought the russiagate narrative in the beginning.

when new information presented itself,i changed my opinion accordingly.
now this being a meme site,i see no reason to prosecute something that neither of us are going to change our opinion on.we agree on that at least.

trump did not collude with russia.my opinion,based on what i discovered.
it was isreal.
not russia.

this is not my echo chamber.
i come here for entertainment and to see the hot takes from the right leaning folk.
and you have been entertaining my friend.

and for that?
i thank you.

peace my friend.

You're literally still stuck on Russia. The report as you said, fou d no such evidence.
Yet, strangely enough, forty people were put in prison and over 40m dollars in dirty money was collected. Stranger still,vthe second part of the Mueller report is what I focus on. It was the first warning that the right didn't read.

And then there was Ukraine.

And then the feb2020 covid conference

And then his election denial

Court hearings

Audits

Appeals

And then Jan 6

Still, Maga thinks Trump can do no wrong.

who are you talking to?
are you confusing our conversation with another person?

i said?
you sure?
because this is what i actually said:
" when new information presented itself,i changed my opinion accordingly.
now this being a meme site,i see no reason to prosecute something that neither of us are going to change our opinion on.we agree on that at least."

and then you proceed to prosecute it based on your own assumptions and nothing that i stated,or offered.
and then *snort*
and then you ..omg i can't stop laughing...
and then you basically accuse me of being a maga trumper after i explicitly stated i am NOT a trumper,but am an anarchist.

which basically means that YOUR politics is to the RIGHT of mine.
ahahahahahahahahaha...
thank you for that my friend.you are extremely entertaining.

here,i have a gift for you.
for being so entertaining.
it's a secret for you.
sssshhh.
don't tell anyone.
/whispers-trump did collude with another nation.
/slides under the table.....

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/trump-israel-collusion/

Reagan took the liberals Cloward and Piven strategy and used it on the USSR. The liberals have been using their Cloward and Piven strategy to collapse the US economy for decades. But the free market is still to powerful for that to collapse it. Well... I don't know if that is where Reagan got the idea or not but regardless it worked. Their economy collapsed and ended the USSR.

Reagan got it from Carter.

"Much of what you've heard about Carter and Reagan is wrong"

https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/much-of-what-youve-heard-about-carter

As opposed to kneecapping our deficit with taxes for the rich in 2018, then botching the living shit out of the pandemic response, causing a massive supply chain crisis, setting the stage for record inflation, and a massive spike in spending, all because the sitting President was worried about his political image. Mkay.

I love it when economic illiterates think they understand how things work.

Ah, excuse me, "Tax cuts for the rich in 2018."

And you call yourself a centrist. Let's suppose there ever was a tax cut just for the rich. Excellent!!!! They deserve it. They've been footing the vast majority (80% or more) of the tax bill far too long. A tax cut for the rich is what I call a good start until we can get enough politicians in office who will throw out that garbage socialist piece of crap income tax scheme altogether. It's un-American and a violation of the constitution. Woodrow Wilson was a world class idiot when he forced that income tax crap on us in 1913.

It's time to repeal it and stop enslaving the American people.

Yup, I am a centrist.

What do you mean "forced that income tax crap on us in 1913?" You weren't there.

Wait, you think tax = socialism? I'm wasting my time. You're not even on my level, bro.

"What do you mean "forced that income tax crap on us in 1913?" You weren't there."

Are you familiar with the word "book" and the word "history"?

"Wait, you think tax = socialism?"

No, that is not what I am saying. Monarchies taxed people also. The "Progressive" taxation scheme that was forced us in 1913 was because Woodrow Wilson hated the U.S. Constitution and was a socialist.

If you think that Marxism has had no influence on this county then you are oblivious.

I think I'm more familiar with a book than you, sir.
I think you put too much weight on Marxism as much as the rest of the right wing does.

Tell me, how did Karl Marx describe capitalism to demonstrate its failure? While I am not a strict Marxist myself, I did take a class on him during the Trump Presidency because every other word that the right-wing said was "Marxism." So, by all means, share with us your literacy on the subject to be throwing around such a buzzword.

Also, the fact that you think that Woodrow Wilson hated the Constitution simply because he didn't view it in the strict conservative sense is also extremely telling of your lack of ability to speak on the matter. Otherwise, you'd shut up and realize that the seventh amendment of the constitution is exactly the type of change he was talking about; our constitution is a living document that needs to be amended, and as such it is a living document that must grow as the USA grows.

And I never said Marx didn't have an influence. Nor did I say he did, you're jumping to conclusions without merit.

You know what? Nevermind. You're leagues below me. It's one thing to be ignorant, it's another to be stupid. It's a whole 'nother world when you're both.

"I think I'm more familiar with a book than you, sir."

Maybe. Maybe not.

"I think you put too much weight on Marxism as much as the rest of the right wing does."

Well considering how there used to be huge rallies held around the country in promotion of Marxism, Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin I think it has and still make a huge impact on our nation and even our culture. Progressives called Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin the men of the future. Author H.G. Wells referred to himself as a "liberal fascist". Songwriter Cole Porter wrote a song called "You're the Tops". For the British version of the musical, "Anything Goes", P. G. Wodehouse altered the lyrics to say "You're the tops, Your Mussolini" Playwright, and Fabian Socialist, George Bernard Shaw called for a human euthanizing of people who "could not justify their existence".

A huge rally was held at Madison Square Gardens in support of Marxism. The American Nazi Party was formed at this time.

Then in 1928 the New York Times (who had been hanging on to this story for some time) finally printed an article explaining the horrors committed in the Soviet Union. The next blow to the Progressive movement happened with Hitler invaded Poland. That woke most of the people up as to what this nightmare that was being pushed was all about. But there were a few die hard loyalists who were just too stupid to realize that this is what Marxism was and will always be about. They hung on. When the U.S. got involved the loyalists severed all ties with Nazis and Fascists and even went so far as to accuse the American right of actually supporting those socialist regimes. Because they had already infiltrated our education system they taught that Nazis and Fascists were on the extreme right. This was a lie from day one. All authoritarian regimes are on the left. The far right is anarchy. It is no freedom on the far left and absolute freedom on the extreme right. There just is no room whatsoever for freedom between the communism/socialism on the left and Nazism/fascism on the right model.

So your idea of a being a centrist puts you wedged tightly between the hairs width difference of communism/socialism and Nazism/fascism. Good luck with that.

Marxism is not a buzzword. It has a definite meaning. There are politicians who reiterate those meanings in work and action. Obama is a Marxist, his life was centered around Marxism. He sought out Marxist professors in college.

Just gonna leave this here so you understand...

Taxation is a system of wealth collection by a government to fund public services. It has been present in most countries that have existed throughout documented history, going as far back as ancient Egypt - though similar wealth collection systems go even further back to the early civilizations of Mesopotamia.

Socialism does not inherently have anything to do with taxation. Some socialist ideologies advocate taxation, some oppose it. And as detailed already, taxation predates socialist thought by thousands of years.

**If taxation and socialism were the same thing, that would make socialism the longest-lasting and most successful system in documented history.**

Taxation is theft.

Did you know there was no income tax in this country until 1913? The Federal Government did not believe it had the right to take people's earnings. There was a brief period of time when there was an income tax imposed to pay for the Civil War but that tax had an expiration date and even though the government kept it going about 4 years past it's expiration, it eventually was repealed.

The government is the servant of the people, not the other way around. Any attempt to take by force what does not belong to you is theft. You can volunteer to give as much as you want to the government but the government has no right to take it from you.

"Socialism does not inherently have anything to do with taxation. Some socialist ideologies advocate taxation, some oppose it."

When and where has any socialist regime opposed taxation?

Socialism disallows private property rights. In other words the government has now declared that everything you own, including your life and the lives of your family, now belong to the collective. And because the collective is controlled by the central planners (i.e. the oligarchy) then everything belongs to the government. This is total and complete taxation of all wealth. And in addition to that any income you earn, working for them, now belongs to them.

"**If taxation and socialism were the same thing, that would make socialism the longest-lasting and most successful system in documented history.**"

That's the most absurd thing I have ever heard. So do you tell people you're a centrist so that they will trust you more when pushing socialism down their throats? Is that why you would make a comment like this?

Taxation does not provide longevity to any government. It never has. It was heavy taxation that was one of the problems that brought Rome down. Taxation, massive spending, unnecessary wars and widespread government corruption brought Rome down.

Socialism robs people of their self-worth and their dignity. There is absolutory no motivation to make any contributions to the betterment of society. Production and quality fly out the window. This is why in all socialist regimes have food shortages.

No socialist nation will ever survive. They will all eventually collapse. There is not longevity in socialism. Human beings are not ants and we will not be treated as such.

If taxation is theft, you should report the US government to the police.
Smh.

Back then only 5% f the population was paying those taxes.