What no war Crimes?

It doesn’t matter how much you hate the Jews. Murdering babies and burning old women alive in their wheelchairs is indefensible. Taking videos and putting them up for all to “admire” your work is evil. Death to all who perpetrate such atrocities. They don’t deserve to live among civilized people Akbar.

It doesn't matter how much you hate the Muslims. Suppressing an entire group for decades after you invade their land, have segregation, an ethnostate, cut off water, power, access to movements, lockdowns, military strikes, acting like there's some moral highground is indefensible.

Let rich Israel buy land and build a decent infrastructure for the people they displaced, with all their usury money and foreign government donations, and I'd back Israel forever to their piece of land.

Jerusalem was begun by whom? The Palestinians? How far do you go back to determine who stole land from who? Wherever is convenient for your argument?

Yes, it is a touchy point. However, they used an atrocity that happened to them as an excuse to put that on others. We never claimed to be the victims, after taking America by war. But we weren't getting billions from other countries living off victim status.

So they should have to go above and beyond, seeing the generosity they were providen after being suppressed, like they are doing to another. And the moral grandstanding. Constant crying about being a victim.

“Yes, it is a touchy point. However, they used an atrocity that happened to them as an excuse to put that on others. We never claimed to be the victims, after taking America by war. But we weren't getting billions from other countries living off victim status.

So they should have to go above and beyond, seeing the generosity they were providen after being suppressed, like they are doing to another. And the moral grandstanding. Constant crying about being a victim.“

I don’t have the answer to Middle East peace. Those people have been fighting for millennia. The “Holy Land” has been the scene of countless atrocities over the centuries by Muslim, Christian’s and Jews. Killing babies is evil, targeting women and children for rape , torture and murder is evil. I denounce it regardless of the perpetrator. Even if you think you are doing it in Revenge, it is evil and I will denounce it, there is no justification or rationalization that suffices to permit it. If your not intellectually honest enough to speak against atrocity then you are complicit in trying to justify and normalize it:

Yes, both sides have a right to be pissed, regardless of what others did before them.

I agree with you on all sides. I'd like peace for both the Israelis and Palestinians.

However both sides have committed atrocities and we should admit that. I think you have but we all need to.

WTF are you talking about? The attack was one sided. The decapitated babies was one sided. War Crimes charges should be filed immediately against the perpetrators. FU and all defenders of evil. It’s not a surprise those that support abortion up until birth side with those who target babies for execution.

The Israeli government has killed plenty of babies. Not just in response to the attack, but for decades. If we’re really going to judge this conflict by the amount of baby killing each side has taken part in, then I wouldn’t be putting my support behind Israel or Hamas.

Please give an example where babies were targeted for murder and not killed as collateral damage.

Bruh. 💀

Still waiting. How about targeting a music festival for peace? Any Israeli attacked like that?

How about targeting a hotel?

Nothing justifies the atrocities of a few days ago. Not 80 or 100 year old grudges. Nothing.

Because you can’t produce any. Save your Feigned moral outrage and false indignation. The fact you try to justify the murders carried out by Hamas proves you are bereft of morals anyway. You probably cheered the Twin Towers collapsing cuz America deserved it. GTFO

Ah yes 9/11, that famous instance in which we responded by only striking back at those who were responsible and didn’t spend over a decade in a country that had nothing to do with it. I too remember when we spent 20 years and almost 7 trillion dollars pillaging- I mean liberating the entire Middle East, making the world a better and safer place for everyone as a result; especially Afghanistan who didn’t end up becoming an even bigger theocratic shithole than when we found it. I’m so glad that Israel is following in our footsteps by not responding to an attack that affected thousands of innocents by senselessly murdering millions more. Isn’t linear time great? I love it when we can be self-reflective and learn from history and not repeat our past f**kups in perpetuity. Don’t you?

What does that have to do with you not being able to come up with an example? You argument can’t be defended or justified so you try to obsfucate. So did you cheer america being attacked and say we deserved it? I bet you did.

Yes, they just launch rockets into the most densely populated strip of land in the world and the women and children dead are "merely collateral damage"

You've already shown your bloodlust towards these people. Now imagine how a Palestinian, through no fault of their own was born in an open air concentration camp, can't leave, gets locked down, segregation and all the rest, including dealing with Hamas, who help bring strife down on them but we should only have sympathy for the poor innocent Israelis who've never done anything wrong ever.

Whoever said the Jews were innocent of spilling blood? It doesn’t matter nothing justifies the nature of the atrocities committed by the Palestinian backed Hamas governors of Gaza. They should have built schools and roads instead of rockets. They don’t want peace, so they get what they want, War.

If Israel wanted peace, they'd be working on a two state solution or what I suggested above.

There can be no two state solution when one side only wants war and victory. Let them have what they want. It in their charters. No peace with Israel. “Palestine will be free for the River to the sea” that’s what they chant is t it? Are they inferring free from Jews or what free are they referring to?

Yeah, we know. Only those peace loving perfectly innocent Israelis want to do everything for peace but those dastardly Palestinians will kill their own children to troll an Israeli.

Ben Shapiro's been kvetching about that all day.

Either you want peace or you don’t. If you don’t then you should get what you want. War and don’t cry about it, you chose it.

Then so be it for both sides.

I agree. So no longer shall we believe the Israeli lies of moral superiority. Nor the Palestinians.

Yet one side shall not get every possible consideration or money installment.

Good debating with you. I know we disagree but at least we can debate it unlike some want.

Truth.

Killing isn’t murdering them intentionally so not true. False equivalency.

Much of what has been claimed doesn't seem true. Some kidnapped girl at a concert. She's alive.

A tank was shooting during this concert so it wasn't just one way.

But you're right. They are posting in it online. Okay. Still no proof of 40 decapitated babies.

250 bodies stacked in trailers at the music festival. Who said 40 decapitated babies? There were 40 dead babies, some decapitated. The kidnapped girl? Did you see the video of them riding around with her now purportedly unconscious body. I don’t believe there is proof she is alive, but her mother thinks she might be.. Or you think that was fabricated? It’s hard to hide when there are too many witnesses. Certainly everyone will play for sympathy as the body count goes up. Doesn’t change what we have seen or what eyewitnesses have seen.

AI will be our deaths, probably

I let a few days go by before I believe anything. Too much bullshit from every side.

Not a bad idea. Iraq War taught us that.

Many instances taught us that but those that forget history... you know.

I'm not saying hamas didn't kill people. But this reeks of propaganda and that never should be tolerated, although I'll react that if proven true.

Soon you won’t be able to believe anything, not even your own eyes between AI and CGI it will All be fabricated and our lives will become WWF.

So a drunk driver plows into your wife but it's not really bad because the death wasn't intentional?

Who said it wasn’t bad. Was it an atrocity? Dead is dead but that doesn’t mean the means of it are equal, only the finality is.

Well, at least you admitted Israel isn't totally innocent. Neither are other parties. No country is.

So let’s say the drunk driver pulled your injured wife out of the car and then proceeded to stab and mutilate her then raped her body and set her and the car on fire. She’s still dead right. Samey same? Not by a long shot.

Let's say someone was driving, I don't know, a Ford truck. Then in 1948, some guy ripped you out of your car, telling you Henry Ford promised every Ford to you, because you had a model T Ford in 1922. Then they took your home. And made you a second class citizen in your own country. Controlled your water, power and told you where you could drive.

Then they rolled tanks through your neighborhood and shot kids throwing rocks at tanks.

You might be a little upset, right?

If you say no, there's really no hope.

Rocks can kill. Something middle easterners have used for executions for centuries. So unless you are inside the buttoned up tank it’s a lethal threat. If your outside or not in a tank, and in a Jeep or a truck, it’s a very real threat.

Let’s say that happened, so then it’s ok to go murder the babies and young of those people in barbaric ways. It’s ok to set old women on fire in their wheel chair? It’s ok to visit all form of barbarity on your enemy? No rules?

Yes, the rape claim. Because 40,000 decapitated babies doesn't suffice.

You may not agree with me but I'm trying to debate with you in good faith.

They filmed it and posted it on social media. They aren’t ashamed of it, they are proud of it.

Which is what exactly was said when Russia did it to Ukraine.