Democrats Sold Out

... the party of family values? convicted of rape! that is one whacked out party

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We have the option of replying to whom or what we want here.

You are trying to create a "strawman argument." I'm not biting. Either address the OP or shut the hell up!

And when, exactly, where you a supporter of the Democratic Party?

I am way worse than a MAGA Republican. I am a disgruntled moderate Democrat, and I have always been a Democrat. In all your delusions you could never imagine that anyone who disagrees with you is not a Republican. I don't like Trump, and I don't trust the Republican Party. Does that put anything in perspective?

See, that's exactly why I'm asking: I don't believe you for one second. In what way are you or were you ever - EVER! - a moderate?

But aren't they all?
Have you ever encountered a single anyone here who claimed to be an actual Republican, an actual Conservative, and voted for Trump?
They're aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall lifelong Democrats who even voted for, GULP!, Obama, despite, you know, and have only taken up defense of Trump out of pity because no one ever ever got persecuted like him, ever, not even that guy with the fake birth certificate.

Ok, there are some that claim to be, but those always turn out to be middle schoolers in Canada who don't know the name of the state they supposedly live in but know all about Klemeth Hartledale, MP from Nova Scotia.

False

Absolutely, lot of plants out there.

Paranoia will destroy ya.

And the rest reading from the same script.

Even an Alt Rock forum I used to frequent, same exact lines with the handful of Trumpers there. One was even a 2nd gen HC Punker who not only mimicked them, but lied about his life in doing so. Became a totally different person overnight, total Invasion of the Body Snatchers. He went from being his own person to being a complete clone. At first I wasn't even sure if it was really him, or someone stole the identity he had on the site after the real him left. But he checked out. I had to bust him on his lies to prove it. Really sad. From Punk to shill for 'tha Man'

Oh, punks are the worst for that. "You know, punk rock used to be so genuine, but now it's all sold out and nothing is sincere" No, you got old and kept listening to the same twelve tapes you've had since you were a kid just like your parents warned you, THAT'S what happened!

No, but he was an all out "Man, you were there in the 80s? I wish I got to see such-n-such." Dude even - I kid you not - wished he was a Vietnam Vet, and actually signed up for Iraq.
So he was totally into being what he missed out on by a decade (or two), but then flipped for Trump. Same lines, "tired of paying taxes for eternally unempolyed Dems from the ghetto" when he couldn't hold a job past 2 weeks and lived in SROs for free because he served. That's how I busted him, got him to admit that in front of others who already knew his deal.

and Punk was over by 1985 anyways.

Y'all are all worried that I don't fit your stereotypes. I will let you in on a secret. No one does. People are complicated with different experiences and ideas. The only people you can pigeonhole are people who are scared and need an identity outside of themselves to feel secure. Know anyone like that?

I assure you that there definitely really are moderate people out there who really are nothing like you at all.

"Y'all are all worried that I don't fit your stereotypes."

Y'ALL are ALL worried that I don't fit YOUR stereotypes.

So much irony, and that in addition to the usual standard MAGA cookie cutter script generalizations, no less.

Me Modda.
Me not yOUr y'all,,,

You are so far left you can't see the middle. I'm a man without a Party or any representation. There are millions like me. You believe only what you are told to believe. You live in a very small, binary world just like the idiots on the Right that you hate. The two Parties work together to keep the country divided.

Ok. So in what way are you or were you ever - EVER! - a moderate? What moderate policies or platforms do or did you advocate?

We need to support blue-collar workers by stopping illegal migration. Democratic Party was against illegal migration when it still supported workers. Now it supports Globalism.

OBVIOUSLY there's nothing moderate about this. Do I even need to explain this? You're nowhere around when it comes time to support LEGAL immigration reforms, and you're there to complain about ILLEGAL immigration... which means what you really want is for all immigrants to be illegal!!!

What other word is there to describe that besides hardliner???? OBVIOUSLY you're not moderate on immigration.

OK. So what the hell happened with the 2015 reform bill that John Boehner refused to put to the floor? Don't act like I don't remember how much you - you, CraigThompson - hated that bill, because we've discussed it before.

As usual, yet another one who doesn't know anything about American politics other than Trump, Hillary (but not her hubby), AOC, maybe Bernie, and Hunter Biden's dad.

I never discussed the 2015 reform bill with you because I don't know what it is. I don't know who John Boehner is either. Do I really have to look it up?

Oh my gosh, shocker.

You're not American, are you?

We need to support affordable food and energy for the poor and middle class and stop inflation.

Great! Reduce expenses for the middle class! Genius. EVERYONE thinks of that. I've never met the guy who thinks we should keep jacking up food and energy costs.

HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO IT?

Everyone agrees costs should lower, until it comes time to vote on energy subsidies and development of green energy. Then suddenly everyone has different opinions.

I'm not against universal health care. Neither party really cares about it. Republicans ignore it and the Democrats only pay lip service because they are all bought off.

Cool story. In the UK, literally no politician - even the really conservative ones - are dumb enough to run against universal healthcare entirely. It just never enters anyone's mind that abolishing their system is even any option. So, your view is not moderate.

Moderate is saying something like "well, pragmatically, introducing the entire universal healthcare system in one go just isn't working in the US - so if we focus on modest reforms to the existing insurance system, we can make progress in measurable ways while laying down the groundwork to win the argument in the future." That's Obama's position. So, you've made it very clear that you're no moderate on the American universal healthcare debate.

Antithesis, why do I bother? You are a hopeless contrarian. I could say the sun will rise tomorrow, and you would disagree.

But EVERYONE says the sun will rise tomorrow. It's not in dispute. That doesn't make you a moderate, that makes you a person above the age of four. I'm looking for something more along the lines of "the sun will rise tomorrow and there should be more paid time off so that people can catch the sunrise with their family". THAT'S more the kind of people who voted for JFK back when you were apparently a moderate Democrate.

I'm telling myself/struggling not to post a certain pic that will earworm you....

Oh. F**k. If it's about red headed orphans, I will actually fight you.

This is your fault. Well, by 35%

Don't. do. it. Don't post. the. pic. Modda

You ok there?

No, you are not.