Except that Kushner was already in the Billionaire class, and a successful developer. What you're talking about, may be legitimate business deals - as opposed to being just overt kickbacks and bribery (in no ways inconclusive - he was setting up BioWarfare labs in Ukraine, and getting a cushy job at Burisma, where he was raking in huge paychecks, for a job that he lacked any qualifications to get...and then there's his dealings in China. One helped us start a war... The other was unseemly at best).
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Biowarfare labs in Ukraine?
Your conspiracy theories get crazier and crazier every time I hear them.
So you don't know ANYTHING about the US BioWeapons programs...is what I'm hearing... There's been a bunch of great journalism on the subject, done by Bulgarian Journalist Dilyana Gaytandzhieva - using documentation from the programs in nearby Georgia, leaked to her by an American former adviser to the Georgian Government. For instance:
And then there's the ODD (highly scripted, and lawyer-languaged) statement by Victoria Nuland - made shortly after Russia's entry into the 8 year old Ukrainian Civil War, which began after the success of the CIA's Nazi-Coup, in Kiev, in 2014.
None of that is theoretical. It IS - COVERT OPERATIONS ANALYSIS, however.
Now look at the way that YOU and the CIA - BOTH use the term "Conspiracy Theory' - as a means of silencing and marginalizing critics ... https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/cia/russholmes/104-10406/104-10406-10110/html/104-10406-10110_0001a.htm - weird, huh?
I suspect that this post will get censored... So I'm gonna take screenshots. If/when it does get censored - feel free to join us over at imgflip.com/m/Actual_Politics where we can have an honest discussion without censorship determining who wins and who loses the debate.
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Article says bio-labs. That could be *anything*. You amended "weapons."
The Pentagon works on WEAPONS programs - not public health. They call these programs something other than they are - to skirt the Conventions on Biological weapons. But if these weren't labs with weaponized material...why was Victoria Nuland concerned about them falling into the hands of the Russians (exposure of the programs, aside)?
Why are all of our "BioLabs" in countries surrounding(, or inside of,) our adversaries?
Please educate yourself a little better - and read the articles I included, by Dilyana G., who has done important work, bringing all of this to light.
She's a Bulgarian. They're a NATO country. She's not Russian. But for a long time her work was being dismissed with the kind of typical "Russian Propaganda" hand-waving, that we see Justin Trudeau doing, particularly since he got CAUGHT honoring a living member of the Waffen SS Galicia Division. Just like pointing out that Chrystia Freeland's father and grandfather were active Nazis. You just say "Russian Propaganda" and the facts all just disappear, it seems.
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We have biolabs all over the USA, in many cities in fact.
As a matter of fact, bio-labs are all over the world....
Not like these. These are BSL 2-4 - and they make weapons - described on paper as countermeasures to weapons. But don't be fooled.
I know you're going to be inherently suspicious - but the Russians really do have our number on this subject.
RT.com is your friend - if you want to understand the history of the American BioWeapons programs. They have several good documentaries on these subjects. They've also done fair/excellent reporting on the evidence presented by the MoD and the Ambassador to the UN, at the Security Council. The West just blacks it all out - and the MOCKINGBIRD media doesn't cover any of it.
Those programs start in Nazi Germany, and Unit 731 in Manchuria. The US vacuumed up all of the research, and even shielded the warcriminals. Check wikipedia - even the CIA's online Encyclopedia doesn't cover that up. Project Maruta. They were studying the use of insect and animal vectors. And guess what the Russians have found in our MetaBiota/Black &Veatch labs, where they've captured them, and gone through the documents that didn't get destroyed!?!? Plans to use birds as vectors. Drones designed to release infected flies and mosquitoes. That's not an accident.
Yes - sadly the US has BioWeapons labs all through Africa l, Asia and Eurasia. And they have Dugway Proving Grounds in Utah, and Ft. Detrick - and various nefarious researchers spread out throughout academia like Ralph Baric. But the forward deployment on the borders of Russia and China (the two nations we consider to be the enemies of our Global Monopolar Hegemonic ambitions)...hell we even have at least one lab in Wuhan (probably two - Drosten has a German lab, much closer to the "Wet Market", doing the same kinds of work, but nobody talks about it).
Look... I realize that this is uncomfortable to come to grips with. We'd all like to think that we're the &good guys', riding white horses... But our stable is full of Pale Horses, these days. If we can face reality - we can fix it.
But a Hungarian wrote them, so take that, deniers,,,
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I make biowarfare labs after every meal, usually 30-60 minutes later while I'm reading the latest on the failed sham impeachment inquiry on Hunter Biden... who... *checks notes* has not been employed by the Biden Administration. Ever.
Yet, he's the one in question.
First off - "failed sham impeachment inquiry"? That would be an apt descriptor, of the Mueller Report Redux affair - going after Trump - for not arming NAZIS, fast enough.
It's probably too soon to say what's going to happen with the Biden Impeachment. But like the Trump impeachment, it centers around questions of Bribery and the corruption of Joe Biden, and his grifting off if the Coup Regime in Kiev.
And while Hunter wasn't employed WITHIN the Administration (officially), he was clearly used as a BAGMAN, by Biden and the CIA's Ukraine team, during the other two Obama terms.
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Numerous witnesses brought forth by Republicans have said there isn't credible evidence to commence an impeachment inquiry.
But Republicans are waiting for the one (1) person who would say "Yes, there is evidence."
Democrats didn't have this issue. If you read the Mueller report (which you obvs didn't) Report Part I said there was no evidence to support the allegation associated with the crimes mentioned in Part I.
Part II was a whole different story. MAGA didn't take that seriously, so why should we take their allegations seriously without evidence? MAGA set the bar for hard smoking-gun evidence. They don't have it.
They made their bed, they can sleep in it.
American people have the facts, and no one cares about this Biden Impeachment Sham Show trial which is meant to take attention off of Trump's lawful prosecution.
I'm not a Trump guy. I'm to your left. I don't care what various factions of the Republicans say or don't. There's an FBI file, and confidential DoJ informant - who made TAPES - when he was bribing Joe Biden.
RussiaGate was a Hoax created by Hillary and her Peeps - initially as a smear on Trump's sane and reverent take - that the USA has no interest in starting a NeoCon war with Russia. Then it became a cover for her predictable loss in the general, after stealing the nomination from a much more popular candidate.
The Mueller report was Garbage In - Garbage Out. It replied on spoofed Intel - akin to the Iraqi WMDs - as it's starting point.
The DNC servers were downloaded onto a thumb drive and walked out of the building - not hacked. Adam Schiff tried to keep the testimony from Crowdstrike's boss sealed in closed session, but that only lasted a few years - while he went around, lying publicly about it. Crowdstrike had no evidence of the emails bring extracted over the internet - because it never happened. If it had - the NSA would have all the evidence anyone needed to prove whatever happened - and "High Confidence".
Here's two Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, to explain this to you, at length.
https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2019/02/why-the-dnc-was-not-hacked-by-the-russians.html
You need to stop putting your opinions onto the American people. There's plenty of hard evidence on Joe Biden. There was lots of good reasons to impeach Trump as well - but the Democrats didn't decide to go with any of them, most likely because they're guilty of the same kinds of crimes.
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"RussiaGate was a Hoax created by Hillary and her Peeps"
"The Mueller report was Garbage In - Garbage Out"
"If it had - the NSA would have all the evidence anyone needed to prove whatever happened - and "High Confidence"
"There was lots of good reasons to impeach Trump as well - but the Democrats didn't decide to go with any of them, most likely because they're guilty of the same kinds of crimes."
You need to stop putting your speculations and opinions on the American people.
None of what I wrote was speculation. Go "Fact-check" the award winning investigative journalism and reporting from Aaron Maté - or the wirk Michael Tracy, or even Matt Taibbi, on the subject. Caitlin Johnstone and Cindy Sheehan get it. Why can't you?
RussiaGate was a bad joke. It was a Neo-McCarthy-ite project, designed to prevent the actual left(, and even Democrats), from waking up to the NeoCon plans for a war - first with Russia, and then one with China. Those plans were first advanced by Dick Cheney (& Zbigniew Brzezinski) and PNAC - but now are pushed by Democrats from CNAS.
RussiaGate was designed to prevent Trump from moving forward with his stated goals of rapprochement and detente with Russia. If you say that he's working for Putin (with 0 evidence - except the bogus "Steele Dossier", and the hoaxed intelligence on the DNC servers, and the completely fraudulent story about him having an AlphaBank Server at Trump Tower...) then he can even be impeached, for not arming Ukrainian NAZIS (against Russia), fast enough. Obama had refused to do that - because as he said - that would be far too provocative. But with RussiaGate, they had Trump hemmed-in. And besides, weapons sales make contributors happy. And he's a businessman at heart.
If you're "Progressive" - why are you so interested in defending a creepy rightwing DNCIA Democrat like Biden? Most real progressives, rightly revile and despise the man.
Biden is not right wing for starters. Secondly, Biden isn't necessarily the greatest, I mean I prefer Bernie Sanders or AOC. But I'm happy for Americans to have Biden because in Australia, we have a neoliberal Prime Minister called Anthony Albanese, which he made many bad policies such as the HAFF...