Abortion is legal because until recently couples were allowed to have only one child.

That is not a virtue to emulate.

Legal abortion is always a virtue to emulate as is paid maternity leave. That's why practically every developed country has both...except of course the United States.

If practically every developed country has legal abortion, why the heck would you choose China as the example.....??

This is like if the right tried to use Joseph Stalin to sell their anti-abortion position.

Even China has legal abortion and paid maternity leave but not USA who also has the worst maternal mortality rate in the developed world.
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I'm already pro-choice. I don't need any convincing as far as abortion.

One thing I am not is pro-China.

Imo you should lead with the part about the maternal mortality rate.... not China.

The maternal mortality rate in the US is 32.9 per 100,000 live births. The maternal mortality rate in China is 16.1 per 100,000 live births.

Once again.. not sure why you're still dragging China into the equation...You might as well drag Hitler in. I understand abortion was also legal when he was in power...(for Jewish people). Therefore we need to keep abortion legal!
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Xi Jinping is no Hitler but you don't know that because you support American racism, discrimination and likely have done nothing to alter America's abysmal treatment of women. You fail to address your own country's double standard where China is concerned. You probably have a house filed with Chinese goods, you hypocrite. You also failed to address your country's abusive treatment of women and tried to deflect with your Hitler histrionics. You're weak.

Didn't say he was. Just saying it would be equally ineffective to use that example... (at least here.) Maybe that would work wherever you're from idk.

Ah yes.. a rant about me. Anywho...

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Thanks, I needed my daily quota!

You still didn't answer as to why your country is always preaching to other countries about human rights abuses when the US has massive human rights issues both domestically and internationally. You won't even address that because you're a coward.

I am under no obligation to respond to you about anything internet person. (One who seems to be completely unable to have a conversation about politics without making it about me personally, at that....) I mean seriously "coward" ?? ooOoOoOoh sick burn bro.... that's right up there with someone who sent me a photo of an actual butthole complete with warts. Good times.

Also you still didn't answer MY original question so why the f*ck should I answer yours??

You're a liar. You clearly made a comparison between Xi and Hitler.
You wrote:
"Once again.. not sure why you're still dragging China into the equation...You might as well drag Hitler in."

Nope. If I wanted to compare Xi and Hitler, I'd compare them.. point by point. But I have no interest in that. My comment/beef here is regarding the (lack of) effectiveness in the example you chose. I am pro-choice so I think I'm with you on that. But I just basically think using China is a horrible selling point for it.

And cool quote from me. It's a shame you didn't understand it. Go back and look at my original comment above for additional context if that helps.

"If practically every developed country has legal abortion, why the heck would you choose China as the example.....?? This is like if the right tried to use Joseph Stalin to sell their anti-abortion position."

Did you understand the car salesman meme? You're trying to sell your idea based on China. Nobody here is going to buy it. That point might work in North Korea or somewhere that generally likes China... But not here.

Hopefully that clears it up for you. but if you have any questions let me know.

I'll explain the meme because you're slow: Americans are arrogant people who think they're better than everyone else in the world but they're not. Even Chinese women have better rights as women than do American women. Chinese women have lower maternal mortality rates than American women, abortion is legal and accessible AND they have significant paid maternity leave. American women have very high maternal mortality rate, abortion is illegal or inaccessible in much of their ass- backward abrahamic theocracy, and they get ZERO days of paid maternity leave. Hope this clears the fog that apparently surrounds your brain.

Americans are arrogant people who think we're better than everyone else in the world because we can be.

And who told you there's no paid maternity leave here?

Nice Anglo sounding name you got there, btw.

You're so weak you can only point the finger at other countries while ignoring your own country's failings, hypocrite.

Your jealousy is duly noted.

China is nothing, just low budget factories to make crappy goods for sale here. As manufacture moves to other (cheaper) Asian countries, it too will join that other former #2 world economy that was set to overtake America for decades before fading into itself, Japan.

USA has 0 days national paid maternity leave unlike Russia and China, not to mention almost every European country.

Oh, NATIONAL paid.

Russia and China, sure, right. A bottle of vodka for one and back to the barbed wire sweat factory with the other. What next, an extra spoon of rice in N Korea?

Holy sh*t bro wtf are you talking about. I didn't ask you to explain your meme. This is like pulling teeth over here... are you Chinese or what the f*ck is your deal?

That's pretty obvious. "Michell"!!!!!

I know right..
Plus it's like their entire point was China good, America bad... veiled as a discussion about abortion/ paid maternity leave. Which they didn't even seem to know about... because abortion isn't illegal and as you pointed out, there are places that have paid maternity leave.

Maybe their social credit score got dinged for something and they're trying to bring it back up by making pro-china memes and comments.
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What is obvious? That USA is a second rate country for women?

Yeah, OP's one-line repetitive spiel has a little too much eau de cubicle in it, with a little excess sweat on furrowed brow.
I had to look up "social credit score" but that sure seems to explain it!

Darko, just because a company offers paid maternity leave to its employees does mean Americans have universal paid maternity leave. For universal paid maternity leave you'd have to go to China, Russia, France, Germany, the UK, Italy, Sweden, Luxembourg, etc., Canada, Australia...Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, etc. just not the USA.

Why not China? I coulda add Russia to the mix if you like. Abortion is legal there too and they don't tell women to go bleed out some more when they're having a pregnancy-related emergency. They're not a freak country, like America.

Keep going... Add North Korea 😂🤣

Bottom line: USA--abortion illegal + 0 days paid maternity leave. Russia and China, legal abortion + significant paid maternity leave. 🇨🇳 🇷🇺

Abortion isn't illegal, it's legality is decided by each individual state.

You learned something today.....from an American. You're welcome.
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How is it the richest nation in the world has the worst maternal mortality rate among developed nations including the still developing country China?
How is it that a country like the US can't manage to do as well as China?

You're not waiting for me to answer your question. I already answered it. That's why you don't provide a reply option to your questions, coward.

No, you didn't really...
You said America is the richest nation.... That does not answer why tf you landed on China as the example out of however many possible developed nations to choose from.

Also how tf do you not already know that when you get to the bottom of a comment thread here it automatically does not allow any more replies? You been here 7 years and you don't know that ???

In China, abortion is legal and Chinese women have significantly more paid maternity leave than do American women that is to say American women have 0 days paid maternity leave. The duration of maternity leave in China varies depending on the employee's specific circumstances, but typically ranges from 98 days to 158 days, depending on the region and the number of children the employee has.

Stop filling your house, garage and backyard with Chinese made goods then, hypocrite.

Hey when I can buy products from Vietnam, Taiwan, Thailand, etc instead of China I absolutely choose them over Chinese garbage. I'd rather buy American but I understand we exist in a global society/ economy and most Americans aren't going to work in a sweat shop. We'll barely work in fast food. That's why trump's rhetoric about bringing jobs back from China was ridiculous.

So you hate the people who make the lower cost goods that you don't want to manufacture as a job and that you fill your house with? Just say you're a hypocrite.

Well when China blatantly steals technology from everyone, uses billions of dollars of their governments money to back up production of products utilizing said stolen technology, then sells products back to us, some of which is complete with sh*t to steal yet more data from us.... Then ya.. that kinda doesn't sit well with me.

Consider Chinese theft of Western technology repayment for Western imperialism in China.

No thanks... I don't remember imperializing China and we didn't even give descendants of slaves reparations. China shouldn't get a bucket of spit.

Study rhetoric, American.

Ditto.

The one -child policy has ended. If what you say is true why is abortion still legal and widely accessible? And what about China's paid maternity leave? Why does the richest nation on Earth not provide a single day of paid maternity leave to American women? All Chinese women have it? China's economy is smaller 16 trillion than US economy 20 trillion..

I could not find ANY data on China paid leave. Given that in China a work week is SIX days of TWELVE hour days, I would be surprised if they gave that much maternity leave.

https://www.hrone.com/blog/china-maternity-leave-policies/