Strumpf was the one who initiated this sh*tshow. lets never forget.

Ffs no one said there weren’t blood clots.

They said it was rare and you’re fine after 1-2 weeks if no symptoms ever showed.

Saying that you’re f**ked forever if you ever had a vaccine is pure nonesense.

How are you if symptoms DO show?

What? I've had covid 3 times. Respectfully, I say f**k you.

Uncalled for.

I was replying to someone else's comment by asking how one fared if the symptoms of "vaccine" related event did show in an individual.

He said if did not show in week or two you were fine.

Simply asked that person, "How are you if symptoms DO show?"

Pretty likely to survive even if they do.

Most serious issues usually appear immediately after injection. Overtime, there is a better chance of survival the longer you go without symptoms.

Which include but are not limited to headaches, dizziness, stomach cramps, swelling legs, and brushing near injection site. TTS, or the blood clotting, is treatable once symptoms are diagnoses and medical attention is provided.

Clotting was more common in the J&J vaccines and over the 18 million who received that vaccine, only 60 cases have been reported and confirmed to be a direct cause of the J&J vaccine. Only 9 were fatal.

You’re still more likely to die from covid than the vaccine as there are still thousands of deaths being reported weekly. To put it into further perspective, we had almost tens of thousands of death during the intial outbreak and less than ten in the year after. We’re no longer in the tens of thousands. Covid has dropped from the third? Cause of death to the fourth common cause in Americans. All this Data is just for the US, bear in mind. The numbers would be much higher and more inconsistent if I included global numbers. America is still tackling covid worse than a number of other countries that were more consistent in their approach.

Most covid death are still from either those who’ve never been vaccinated and or were already of poor health or old age. And most vaccine deaths are also from people who were already of poor health or old age as well.

I am aware of the media disseminated reports.

I'm not great at statistical calculations but I don't see the great increase in death rate in light of the virus numbers reported.

No tun foil partisan rejection of science. Just don't see it expressed by the count.

Although rising for years before pandemic, all the death rate increase during pandemic cannot be attributed to the virus.

Aging population increased, murders increased, suicides increased, etc.

I'm willing to understand if anyone can explain.

This screenshot is from the same website you got your data. Which is here:

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate

You don’t see the death rate increase because these are projections and they are specially not factoring in Covid fatalities. These are not the actual recorded death rate and since your source is omitting thus, it makes your source invalid.

A more accurate calculation of the actual death rate by year can be found here:

https://knoema.com/atlas/United-States-of-America/Death-rate?mode=amp

Where are the CDC numbers found?

Post the chart, please

There is no CDC chart.

You will have to manually calculate the mortality rate by year.

I am not required to validate your claim. I’ve already successfully invalidated it, and posted a source that answers your question.

If you can’t bear to do a little homework, then you forfeit the claim for which you’ve already been proven wrong.

Naturally, I recognized the site you sourced as I have seen people use it before who didn’t thoroughly analyze it as you had.

I didn’t have a website do the numbers for me early into 2021 as no data was available and I had to manually calculate it by year just from the CDC numbers.

I believe they still support the conclusions by a few percentages off, though I believe the estimates were higher. Knoema has the fatality rate hitting 15% increase while I believe my calculations on CDC were a 17% increase in 2020. An unprecedented increase mind you as it rarely increased (or decreased) above (below) 1% a year until 2020.

That is definitive proof that Covid happened.

If you want the CDC, numbers, they’re available to the public but I assure you, they’ll only validate my claim, not yours.

I'm not trying to validate a claim as you assume like so many others do.

I am trying to obtain actual numbers audited by someone with statistical acumen.

There is no claim that covid did not happen.

My only claim is I have not seen a number set that demonstrates a sharp increase in death rates for 2019, 2020, 2021.....I did assume figures for 2022 and 2023 are probably unavailable at this time but will appreciate seeing them when they are available

Fair enough but I should at least point out that those whom made the claim there was no covid in 2020 kept using that site as proof even after their source swiftly included the notification that these projections did not include the covid pandemic. I had to point that out numerous times.

My presumption may have been unfair as it was rather exhausting that people kept using it and it was like wackamole.

There are still plenty of people who claim covid never happened on this site regardless.

If you really want to see the data then I commend you for your intelligence. But I also recommend not just doing your own research but heavily scrutinizing it as well. But will gladly help you if you remain commenting in good faith.

Stereotyping people leads to discrimination.

I don't need commended on anything, my friend. Just accurate, juried data.

You have to admit that the UN publishing historical data based on projected numbers they now know are inaccurate is kinda weird.

If you read for content, I stated no tin foil hat, partisan junk.

Instead of immediate hostility in responses, try a little diplomacy.

Nobody's right if everybody's wrong 😉

It’s not stereotyping. You said that you didn’t see an increase in death rate which is an implication of denial on how many deaths have been claimed by covid so I made an assumption based on your statement.

Further clarifications on my calculations from 2 years ago… I included mortality rates of the us from the cdc numbers going back ten years.

I don’t have those numbers on me as the comment is over two years old and I presumed that people would’ve eventually stopped claiming covid was still the flu or didn’t happen.

I was overly optimistic, unfortunately.

Don't be too hard on yourself

Tik tok gave a lot of people a 10 second attention span with a nonexistent retention capability.

Still, I’m happy to help.

They’re in the link.

I will repost.

https://knoema.com/atlas/United-States-of-America/Death-rate?mode=amp

The cdc mortality rates are scattered across the cdc website but the link above is fairly close but I don’t know if they’re using cdc numbers, John Hopskins, or a combination of sources.

They’re still fairly close to what I calculated about 2 years ago.