it is waaay easier to get a car than a gun...

That isn't the type of truck that was used

People aren't saying mass killings will completely stop if there are stronger gun control laws in effect

By that logic, why prohibit people from owning hand grenades and rocket launchers?

banning weapons does nothing, take Mexico for example ..the average citizen is unable to own any fire arm.. so the only groups left that are armed is the mexican government and the cartels. The gangs are armed with said gernades and rocket launchers, see the Sinaloa Drug Cartel for reference. American Citizens stop so many crimes a year without ever pulling the trigger.. your side completely ignores that 100% true fact.

"banning weapons does nothing"

Hand grenages are illegal to own in the US. How many people are killed by them each year?

"take Mexico for example ..the average citizen is unable to own any fire arm.. so the only groups left that are armed is the mexican government and the cartels. The gangs are armed with said gernades and rocket launchers, see the Sinaloa Drug Cartel for reference."

Yes, cartels are very violent. If ordinary Mexican citizens could own their own guns, you think cartel violence would go down?

"American Citizens stop so many crimes a year without ever pulling the trigger.. your side completely ignores that 100% true fact"

Not sure what you mean by "my side", since I support the Second Amendment

You are obviously a liberal, and pretty hard left leaning. I am glad you support the 2nd and if memory serves we actually agree on how the 2nd should be applied and regulated. The Mexcian people are raped , robbed and murdered daily by cartels and the people have no way to defend their selves .. a simply micro exmaple I can give. I have walked out of my home with my rifle 2 times since 2022 - once gang bangers were breaking into my garage , and the other time my work van was being robbed by banger. I stopped both criminal activities - without firing a shot. I would ahve been attacked or kileld if I was unarmed.

"You are obviously a liberal, and pretty hard left leaning"

Not that far left

"a simply micro exmaple I can give. I have walked out of my home with my rifle 2 times since 2022 - once gang bangers were breaking into my garage , and the other time my work van was being robbed by banger. I stopped both criminal activities - without firing a shot. I would ahve been attacked or kileld if I was unarmed."

And it's good that you were able to defend yourself. I absolutely support people being able to own guns to defend themselves and their property and their family.

Sure the US may not the absolute worst in the whole world?

There are indeed a lot of violent, unstable, impoverished and organized crime-ridden countries. I don’t think it does us any good to compare ourselves to them.

The U.S. should be more comparable to Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc. That’s why I prefer charts like this, which show how much the US lag our rich-world peers on this.

But yes, if you compare the US to Latin America many neighborhoods are like that

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44,310 gun deaths in 2022 more than half of those "gun deaths" are suicides say 25 K, someone that is trying to kill their self is going to even if they don't have a gun. 19,310 to review. Then factor in homicides with illegal firearms from gang activiety chicago alone , in only Chicago there was 600 murders with guns Chciago being the lowest on the top 12 Big Urban cities - 12 x 600 = 12,600 - 12,600 - 19,310 = 6,710 high estimate, factor in self defense , police shootings, and other legal uses of firearms equals out to be about 2700 - 6,710 = 4,010 .. now how many of this 4,010 are done by rifles that the dems want to ban? about 455... less than 2% of the total gun deaths are done by the rifles everyone is oinking about banning. It doesn't make sense.

https://drexel.edu/uhc/resources/briefs/BCHC%20Gun%20Deaths/ cities totals I used

Us? We?

Good pick up

uh huh

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