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Please discuss :) | I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on Article 16: Security of the Common Sense Constitution; At the time it was written, the constitution was constantly being changed by *certain people* to cement power and to enshrine laws into a constitution (laws themselves do not belong in a constitution); It has been well over a year since then, and those people are no longer in the stream.  There remains no threat that people will try and weaponize the constitution.  IDs to vote has already been abolished (Article 11 Section 2) and the election process for vice president has been changed (Article 2 Section 1); My point, is that Article 16 no longer seems necessary, and it is already being disregarded. Abolishing it would foster a more democratic process in a time when most lawmaking in this stream has gone stagnant. | image tagged in blank white template,senator armstrong | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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I would be willing to do a rewrite of the Constitution to update it if that’s what everyone wants. We would all have to work together on it and only once we got it finished would it replace the current constitution. As for lawmaking, there’s only so many laws you can create before it just pisses everyone off and they rage quit. I think instead of just focusing on lawmaking, Presidents should focus on doing more of what the other IRL governments do, especially in regards to foreign policy. The office of the president is basically unchained in that regard, pretty much anything goes as long as TOS isn’t violated. It would also shift focus back onto presidents instead of waiting for Congress to do something. I’m honestly surprised Fak hasn’t taken advantage of that and done something like declare war on anime, that would stir the pot a bit.
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Mainly just trying to be agreeable and not “rock the boat” too much.
I would like to do something fun to drive activity up, but I remain cautious not to do anything that might be seen as too tyrannical or overstepping the boundaries of the president’s power.
1 up, 1y
push the envelope >:)
1 up, 1y
I'm not even advocating a total rewrite necessarily (I honestly don't have any changes in mind currently), I just think removing Article 16 would help foster discussion if people did decide there was something they wanted changed. IDs are no longer required for example, as per people's input, and I'm sure there are, or may in the future be, other changes people may want to make.
0 ups, 1y
Yeah. Keep this in it though
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If IncognitoGuy came back as another alt (not BritishMormon), he might change the constitution around, so I feel like we still need Article 16: Security of the Common Sense Constitution
0 ups, 1y,
1 reply
we could just not let him
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But we did let IncognitoGuy in before, and we knew he was an alt since x amount of time but we didn't banish him until far too late. Surly knew BritishMormon was IncognitoGuy pretty much the whole time, at least when I first joined this stream (which was about three months after IncognitoGuy made his Mormon edition account)
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I think you're giving IG too much credit. He isn't an owner on the stream, so ultimately, it doesn't really matter. OP banned him, I don't think he'd let him change the constitution.
0 ups, 1y
"I think you're giving IG too much credit."

Who else would have been bullying and abusing this stream?

"He isn't an owner on the stream, so ultimately, it doesn't really matter."

He owned and reclaimed ImgflipGovernment...

imgflip.com/m/ImgflipGovernment

"OP banned him, I don't think he'd let him change the constitution."

He admitted that "for the sake of the survival, [BritishMormon's violating of the mudslinging rules] must be stopped" which means that OP knew the problem and left it until half way his first term, which I think as soon as BritishMormon joined, he should have been permabanned as quick as me being banned from Real_Politics as soon as I betrayed BritishMormon
2 ups, 1y
Yeah, it's time to open up the constitution a little. No one listens to it anyway.
1 up, 1y,
2 replies
I agree that the Constitution doesn't need to be rewritten, but reinstate the DMV. Any.
1 up, 1y
Nay
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1 up, 1y
I agree. That is all.
1 up, 1y,
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“Our umbrella kept us so dry when it was raining. And now that it’s sunny, we should just toss it!”

The security of the Constitution is to guard against any potential dictator, not just a “certain someone.” I’m not agreeing to a wholesale rewrite of the Constitution without at least a clear idea of where the process is heading.

You haven’t quite said where you’re head’s at here, but based on Christian Theocracy Party’s campaign pledges to date, I’m afraid rewriting the Constitution will merely be used as pretext to cater to the hurt feelings of those who might think Marilyn Monroe here is showing too much arm.

Governments aren’t as shackled as you suggest. No Constitutional rewrites are necessary to carry out any of the following: Meme contests, theme days/weeks, polls, campaigning, alliance-making and -breaking. appointments, the (re-)establishment of new Cabinet roles and institutions like the DMV and the IMGFLIP_BANK, even meme wars.

For the foregoing reasons, I respectfully dissent.

NAY
2 ups, 1y
You're correct
NAY
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1 up, 1y
you carry an umbrella with you everywhere?

notice, I didn't say we needed to rewrite the constitution, so if that's your fear, you really aren't understanding me. I just think that given the changes already occurring, and the lack of a real danger, it would be good to remove the obstacle. This would allow people to better discuss changes that may need to be made, whatever those changes may be be. I have none to suggest at the moment.
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    I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on Article 16: Security of the Common Sense Constitution; At the time it was written, the constitution was constantly being changed by *certain people* to cement power and to enshrine laws into a constitution (laws themselves do not belong in a constitution); It has been well over a year since then, and those people are no longer in the stream. There remains no threat that people will try and weaponize the constitution. IDs to vote has already been abolished (Article 11 Section 2) and the election process for vice president has been changed (Article 2 Section 1); My point, is that Article 16 no longer seems necessary, and it is already being disregarded. Abolishing it would foster a more democratic process in a time when most lawmaking in this stream has gone stagnant.