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Alternative fan theories: Vladimir Putin is a liberal in disguise

Alternative fan theories: Vladimir Putin is a liberal in disguise | image tagged in funny,demotivationals,vladimir putin,putin,nobel prize,world peace | made w/ Imgflip demotivational maker
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3 ups, 2y,
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Personally, I fear backing an animal into a corner especially since the animal in question has weapons of mass destruction.
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Perhaps then we should let the crybully take whatever he wants because he uttered the magic words - also an option.
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The dissolution of the Russian or North Korean state would lead to a power vacuum and would most likely lead to generals of the state's army, warlords, or gangs controlling nuclear weapons. Not to mention each of these countries has hundreds of these weapons. Only one needs to fall into the hands of a mad or irrational man.
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Backing something into a corner is not the same as stopping its advance.
2 ups, 2y,
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Neither NATO nor Ukraine are going to be stomping onto Moscow, the way Hitler and Napoleon tried to do. I highly doubt Ukraine, even if maximally successful, will try to take even an inch of Russian land (pre-2014 borders). There's no international law justification for Ukraine invading Russia, any more than there was for Russia invading Ukraine. So if Ukraine were to try to do that, then it would lose all the moral high ground that it's acquired and the West/NATO would pull the plug.

Internal Russian politics is another matter. The future of the Russian state is obviously more in doubt than it was at the start of the year. Putin could fall, or he could cling on. If he falls, he could be replaced by someone better, or someone worse. There's no way for us to control it, really, nor should we try to. We're obviously not going to try to "nation-build" in Russia when we failed so abysmally at doing that in much smaller/less-populated countries (Afghanistan, Iraq).
[deleted] M
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You seem to press reset each argument or willfully ignore geopolitical facts learnt previously. After 3-4 yrs of seeing you do this, I’m not at all surprised

Biden has ripped a page from the late patton
1 up, 2y,
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There are deep philosophical and structural issues at play when it comes to secession and independence movements. However it seems reasonably clear to me that Putin’s neo-imperialist cleaving of neighboring nations while issuing nuclear blackmail threats to the rest of the world isn’t something we should be endorsing or normalizing.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/borders-secession-independence-negotiation/671791/
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Moon.Axe has been here 3-4 yrs?
0 ups, 2y
That's what I heard. You'll have to ask NumbNutBagTag though. He knows way more than I do about this site.
[deleted] M
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And you’re forgetting about urk shelling those areas for 8 years, where azov had made statements years ago wanting to genocide the Ukr russians living in the east. Seems more like them forcing his hand aside for the 2004 and 14 coup.

Please do go on and justify genocide for me lol, f**king neo libs
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Rhetoric gets heated in times of war, but the Ukrainian government has made it clear that they're not out to kill Russians for the sake of killing Russians.

Russian Lives Matter, the Russian language matters, Russian culture and literature and artistic achievement matter. As much as I hate Putin, all that is obvious and self-evident to any Western observer, especially in a country like Ukraine with a huge population of Russian-speakers, and that includes the President of Ukraine himself.

Russian has been a lingua franca in Ukraine for centuries. Russian influence is never going away from Ukraine, nor should it, though that also has no bearing on Ukrainian independence.

Should large chunks of the American Southwest be given over to Mexico simply because this region of the U.S. has a lot of Spanish speakers and Hispanic heritage? Obviously not.

Back on the topic of Russian Lives Mattering, Ukraine treats Russian POWs better than the Russian state treats its own conscripts - who are being press-ganged into Putin's vanity war without prior experience, with a week of boot camp or less, without being provided proper equipment, and while being served expired and maggoty food (or no food at all). Some Russian conscripts were told to take their girlfriends' feminine hygiene products with them as a rudimentary first aid kit - lending a whole new meaning to the phrase "tampon gun."

What is genocide, anyway?

I would say that the indiscriminate bombing of civilian infrastructure (including hospitals, schools, playgrounds, and power plants, etc.), capturing civilians and forcing them into "filtration camps," all while pumping out state propaganda that denies that "Ukrainians" constitute a legitimate people, and that explicitly seeks the dissolution of the Ukrainian state all amounts to genocide.

Guess who's been behind that?
[deleted] M
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Once again, those statements were issued in 2016-19 before all this, you really love to ignore those years when everyone on the left complained about urk pro nazi problem. That flower bloomed into the mess we see now
[deleted] M
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I previously sent you links to two documentary’s and am confident you didn’t watch any lol
1 up, 2y
Who would all be looking for international recognition plus the usual allowance and trade assurances, etc, from Uncle Sam, as the Taliban blowing up ancient giant Buddha statues in Afghanistan were seeking.

They might not want to make the same mistake Ukraine did by giving up theirs, but then again nukes make for an expensive toy set, requiring maintanance and know-how in the very least, which yapping yahoos trying to do wheelies in jeeps spraying machine gun fire into the air can't so easily provide. They'd also need a nuclear science industry to keep pace with the rest of the nuclear world, and Putin's reliance on Iran to supply them drones shows how easy it is for even the once so-called mighty to fall behind in a laughable heap of rust.

Great tool to keep in your pocket, but you can't feed citizens fallout, and the risk to themselves is a lot more than it is to others. India and Pakistan verged on nuclear war with each other upon acquiring them, and the losses India might have suffered would have been exceeded by the blank zone on the map that used to be Pakistan should that have played out, which is why it didn't.

Nukes may seem impressive, but becoming a target who has to back it up can become a tiresome hobby after a while, with quite an expensive price tag too.

3 ups, 2y,
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was the glasses sticker really necessary?
3 ups, 2y
More necessary than you could know
[deleted] M
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0 ups, 2y,
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●Red Army KGB chief who supported Soviet genocide as a "necessary evil for the greater good."
●Personally made billions off Joe Biden's love letter "sanctions" on Russian natural gas [Russia sells the exact same gas for twice as much money & Europe buys the exact same gas for 4 times as much through middle men like Lithuania or India...]
●Promises environmental destruction on any who don't pretend to agree with his lies.
●Uses the media to censor anyone with differing political opinions
Yeah, he does sound like the "new left."
So what's the difference? Putin is only interested in destroying OTHER countries and cultures. Not destroying his OWN country and culture.
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Oh, Putin has surely done his best to ruin his own country as well. Making him, indisputably, a Leftist.

And just this morning we found additional evidence that yet another world leader masquerading as a Conservative was, in fact, a Leftist. Who other than a Leftist could crash their own country’s economy and lose all political support in a mere 6 weeks on the job?

More closeted Leftists in recent history:

—George W. Bush (neo-con, expanded entitlements, dummy, all-around failure) was in many ways a Leftist.
—Some are even saying that Ronald Reagan (immigration reformer, supporter of gun control and abortion rights) was a Leftist.
—And in a few years, what will people be saying about Trump? People are already saying he screwed up by supporting the globalist pro-vaxx campaign. What else will we learn about his legacy as time goes on?
0 ups, 2y
We can tell who's actually in the new left by who the new left hates. Since you hated Trump, Bush and Reagan while they were in office? Well... you got your answer.
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ngl there are probably some people in Russia that unironically believe this, some literally think Moscow was nuked in 1812 and that there was no cancer before that, and then there’s Anatoly Fomenko’s “New Chronology”, which sounds like something straight of a trollge schizoposting meme.
Not all that surprising really since we have QAnon over here.
[deleted] M
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https://i.imgflip.com/6xkcqm.gif
[deleted] M
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Here’s all four alt chronology with another 2
https://archive.org/details/AnatolyFomenkoBooks/DatingPtolemysAlmagestByAnatolyFomenko/

Alt history from that crazy mathematician
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You really love that guy's work.
[deleted] M
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Reminds me of when Michael Jackson was ranting about how all the history books are wrong and they teach false history lol

The guys work is a total mind f**k
1 up, 2y
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