McCarthy has fired a warning shot.

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Red, as in Communist? Or, Red as in Republican? It is so hard to tell them apart these days.

Did you delete your original comment?

moderator i guess

So, you want to criticize me for my response to your comment that was so bad the moderator deleted it?

That same child knows the difference between spreading Putin's hollow threats and a real possibility of nuclear war.

Tommy Lee Jones was Al Gore's college roommate and is a lifelong Democrat.

I have chosen the side that NATO supports, against the party that NATO was established to resist. Russia is not America's Friend. Putin Tried to get China to cash in all its Treasury Bonds during the crash of 2008. That would have destroyed our economy. If McCarthy and the Trolls of the Tangerine Traitor want to help Putin realize his goals, they should be brave enough to say so. I will never sell America short. I certainly will never side with our primary enemy.

Yep. Odd the number of American Righties rallying around Putin. 😐

"I will never sell America short. I certainly will never side with our primary enemy."

And of course, neither would Trump. Please don't tell me you're still a true believer in the now 100% debunked Russian conspiracy narrative, are you Larry?

Not as it is presented. Putin wanted Trump to win and put together a massive propaganda package to that end. The Senate, under McConnell's leadership, concluded that. The evidence was laid out by the government and the social media companies, etc. Trump has no moral compass to speak of and responded positively to that support. I think he thinks he "owes one," to Putin. Again, with no moral compass, he is willing to let Putin have his way in Ukraine, to even the score.

I think you give Trump too much credit. He has no sense of patriotism, like you and I do. He has lived almost 8-decades being loyal to one person and one person only. He is a great con man. He knows that people with low self-esteem are easy to con. The extreme right has been told for decades by society through politicians, mews media and "Hollywood," that their racism, sexism and antisemitism make them "bad people." Michael Steele pointed out that while he was Chair of the Republican National Committee, the party accepted their votes, but did nothing to cater to them. Trump did, and now has a fanatical following among them. People like you are at a crossroads. You are, and should be, loyal to a vision of the Republican Pary as a socially liberal, but fiscally conservative alternative to the "Radic-lib" Democrats of the late 1960s who, with the exception of Bernie Sanders and a few upstarts, no longer hold sway in the party. That party no longer exists. Follow your heart.

Does that mean we'll get all those BILLIONS repaid?

It's an ethnic conflict half way around the world. Why do you care so much and why have you chosen the side that you support?

Hi BR-Yang, I'm not Larry (not even close!) and I find myself often agreeing with what you post, but I support Ukraine, and I can tell you why. (this is the brief version)

- it's quite a bit more than an ethnic conflict, imo
- the outcome could threaten NATO, which I believe to be as relevant now as when it was first formed
- Putin (as Russian leader) is our geopolitical adversary, and as such we can't let him walk into whatever country he wants (at a minimum Moldova would likely be next, with Bulgaria, Romania, and Slovakia likely feeling very much in Putin's cross-hairs)
- Allowing Putin to freely do so would likely embolden Xi to strongly consider actually moving on Taiwan instead of just talking about it, and that's where a substantial number of American lives could be lost
- battlefield testing of our weapons systems against one of our two main foes (before they become obsolete) is valuable, and yes there's a reason this was was last on my list...

All that having been said, I would like to see more Ukrainian accountability for the money and arms we send; otherwise we are likely giving both to parties we wouldn't ordinarily.

We'll put, but my two main goals for this conflict would be;
Saving lives and money, and,
Preventing nuclear war.
To do this, the best course of action would be for the Ukrainians to surrender 9 months ago and the second best course of action would be for them to surrender today.
If we wanted to prevent this we should have accepted The Ukraine into NATO in 2014 or given them much more lethal aid before the conflict to try and deter Putin from attacking in the first place. Now that he has attacked there is no -and I mean 0%- chance that he will lose this war; the only question is how long it will take and how much of our money and our lives he will take with him. The longer this war goes on the closer we get to Armageddon.

Apologies for my slow reply. I was banned for a few days after posting my reply for disrespecting a certain user whose login rhymes with DanFailin. (these bans are getting longer and longer...) and was on vacation right after that, so I'm just now getting caught up on imgflip. (of course I do not look at imgflip when I'm on vacation!)

I think we're going to disagree on your two best courses of action, because were we in the situation the Ukrainians find themselves in, I doubt anyone would want to surrender their sovereignty and their liberty to a psychotic despot like Putin. For us, sitting on the outside, we can look at it dispassionately and take an objective view like that, because potential repercussions for us would have far less impact. I think I get it though, because if I could look at the situation entirely objectively, I might agree with what you've suggested.

I am not sure accepting Ukraine into NATO back in 2014 would have been a good idea. You're talking about *before* Putin took Crimea, right? While I support Ukrainian sovereignty, I'm not sure I want to see our soldiers (or NATO's) sacrificing their lives to preserve it. My perspective does have its limits. If that had happened, I doubt president Obama would have the moose nuts to stand up to Putin when he moved on Crimea.

I think there's a far greater chance than 0% that Putin will lose the war. I have to admit that I'm surprised at Ukraine's ability to fight. They supply meat for the grinder, and we supply the weapons and all the benefits that go along with that, and voila, bad Vlad seems to be a hurting unit. I will say that if he wanted to win this war regardless of military cost or any other negative outcomes geopolitically, I think he could. Just like we could have won Vietnam. But so far at least, he seems unwilling to pay the price that it now appears it would take for him to do so. I think how this plays out will be very telling about how Russia conducts itself in the future, and of course the impact it will have on other nations with like-minded psychotics at the helm.

I started writing this yesterday and got sidetracked, but I see in the news this morning that Putin is pulling out of Kherson. Does this have any influence over your opinion that Russia can't lose this war? Perhaps there's strategic advantage to this, and I'm certainly no expert on the military situation as a whole, but doesn't this open the possibility of Ukraine retaking Crimea?