And don't even get me started on the endless Ukrainian soldiers covered in swastikas and holding stormfront flags..

413 views • 6 upvotes • Made by soopadoopakoopatroopa 2 years ago in politics

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3 ups, 2y, 1 reply
This is not how people ask to switch their territory to a different country.
Borgifymycat
2 ups, 2y, 2 replies
They had an agreement for their right to sovereignty and they've been getting shelled and had thousands of citizens killed. They said to stop and then the military started closing in.

Then they asked Russia to help and make them part of Russia because they obviously can't be part of Ukraine.
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2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
The Russian-backed separatist militias that appeared out of nowhere after Crimea asked for help from Russia?



Oh, well, in that case, a full-scale invasion of the entire country makes complete sense, why didn't you lead with that since I was born yesterday
Borgifymycat
2 ups, 2y
Like I said, the people asked for Russia's help because they were being attacked. This isn't a secret.



Also you do realize Russia agreed to a peace treaty months ago

AND

They could have literally just levelled the entire country with their air force but haven't. 

They're not even attacking outside the region, so much so that ukrainans who left are often returning for visits.



None of this is new information
Swiggitygru
2 ups, 2y, 2 replies
Nobody likes to talk about this part of the story because it ruins that whole 'putins the aggressor and Ukraine's the innocent underdog' narrative.



Just think. If Ukraine just didn't keep killing Russian and pro-russian people in the Donbas region, Russia wouldn't have shown up
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2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
See, you say that, but the fact that the Ukrainian government took such a cautious approach in the four years running up to this and Russia showed up anyway is exactly what is causing such a rejection of this bullshit in even the parts of Ukraine that WERE quite pro-Russia.
Swiggitygru
2 ups, 2y, 2 replies
I don't think killing thousands with mortars, refusing them their rights and having the military occupy more and more of their space and closing in, is what I consider to be a cautious approach.



I think agreeing to the right to sovereignty that was previously agreed to is a little more cautious
[deleted]
1 up, 2y
Sorry, you were telling me that shelling civilians warrants the loss of sovereign autonomy and anyone who does it deserves a full scale invasion and annexation by the external military power of the target's choice?
magnusfred
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
'cautious approach'

And

'randomly bombing citizens and killing them'



Are apparently synonyms in liberal land

Who knew..
Swiggitygru
2 ups, 2y
The narrative says Ukraine are the good guys so he/she has to frame everything like that.
Modda
1 up, 2y
Borgifymycat
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Modda
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I STAND WITH THE PEOPLE OF THE DONBAS REGION. THE REGION OF PEOPLE WHO WON THE RIGHT TO AUTONOMY BUT WAS REFUSED BY A PUPPET LEADER WHO ALSO TOOK AWAY HIS NATIONS RIGHT TO OPPOSING POLITICAL PARTIES AND OPEN JOURNALISM; WHO SHELLED AND BOMBED THE PEOPLE OF THE REGION, KILLING THOUSANDS OVER SEVERAL YEARS AND WITH AN EVER ENCROACHING MILITARY PRESENCE, THAT THEY ASKED RUSSIA TO HELP THEM; I STAND WITH THE PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO BECOME A PART OF RUSSIA, AS WELL AS RUSSIA'S RESTRAINT IN FOCUSING ON THE REGIONS WHO ASKED FOR HELP, AND NOT SIMPLY BOMBING THE WHOLE NATION WITH AIRSTRIKES; WHO IS ONLY NOW WILLING TO ESCALATE AFTER THE U.K DEMANDED THAT UKRAINE REFUSE TO SIGN THE PEACE TREATY 6 WEEKS AGO AND AMERICA INTERFERED TO PROTECT CONGRESSIONAL MONEY LAUNDERING