George Washington trusted that Americans would follow the science. Don’t let him down.

I'm not anti vaccine, I'm anti forced experiment. A true vaccine doesn't need boosters every six months. The smallpox vaccine is a one and done. The only vaccine I know of that would need a booster is TDAP, which is every ten years.
"You expose yourself to a small, controlled amount of the virus to stimulate an immune response, and your immune system handles the rest." That is, or was, the definition of a vaccine. That is not the case with the covid Vax.

No, because these aren’t vaccines. They’re novel, insufficiently-tested gene therapies. And they’re killing people.

How many do you think have died from Covid vaccines?

"Covid is no different. You expose yourself to a small, controlled amount of the virus to stimulate an immune response, and your immune system handles the rest. That science didn’t change yesterday."

Ahhh, but that's not how these vaccines work. The "science" has changed. Please don't throw around the term "science" unless you're on solid ground subject matter-wise. The key point is that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are mRNA vaccines, that operate differently than you described.

Below is a brief description, taken from several different sources that follow:

- https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/therapy/mrnavaccines/
- https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html
- https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html

The mRNA vaccines do not contain any virus, live or dead. Instead, they work by teaching our healthy cells to make a piece of a spike protein which is also found on the surface of the covid virus. After making the protein spike, our healthy cells display it on their surface. Our immune system then recognizes the protein spike, and since it does not belong there, responds by producing anti-bodies to attack the virus.

That sounds a bit risky to me, but I never claimed to know how all this works in any great detail. Clearly though, to some who do know more about this, there is concern. Others who also know a lot about it, do not have that same concern.

Regardless, it would take a fairly convoluted effort to get back to what you said about introducing a controlled amount of the virus to stimulate an immune response.

The J&J vaccine is slightly different. It contains a piece of a modified virus, but not the covid virus. The modified virus is called a vector virus, which is supposedly harmless. It enters healthy cells and uses the cells’ machinery to produce a spike protein found on the surface of the covid virus. Our immune system recognizes that the protein doesn’t belong on the healthy cells, which triggers production of antibodies. To my under-educated eye, that looks like a very similar NET result to the mRNA vaccines.

I don't speak for the anti-vaxxers, but I can imagine their concern is related to the manipulation of healthy cells.

Here is the CDC link regarding vector viruses:

- https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/viralvector.html#:~:text=Viral%20vector%20vaccines%20use%20a,is%20called%20a%20vector%20virus

I misspoke. There are other ways of stimulating an immune response, other than living or dead viral particles. That's a traditional vaccine, but there are other kinds.

Those anti-vaxxers who you don't speak for - they may have their "concerns" grounded in bits and pieces of cherry-picked science that they've read, but overall, they're not following the science. If they followed the science, they'd take the vaccine, unless they have some specific medical reason why they can't.

It seems to me anti-vaxxers don't like newfangled things (otherwise known as scientific breakthroughs) and they don't like eggheads (otherwise known as scientists) telling them what to do. They imagine they are fit as a fiddle, and their God-given immune system will fight off anything. It's the whole jock-vs-nerd mentality we all remember from high school on steroids.

But public health authorities aren't trying to deceive. They're doing their jobs, really.

Masking up, and (now that vaccines exist) vaccination status have become markers of partisan identity. You're a cool kid if you don't do it; if you do, then you're with the sheeple.

You misspoke? How do you misspeak when you have all the time in the world to check what you wrote, before hitting the "Post Comment" button?

No offense intended, because you seem like you're a crazy / creative thinker, which I like, but I doubt you're in any position to be criticizing anti-vaxxers. Not for cherry picking science (there you go with the "science" again...) and definitely for not following the science. Saying the latter is the biggest mistake those who think they understand the scientific method make, because they literally have no idea what they're talking about.

And while I admire someone who starts a sentence of with "It seems to me...", I lose a bit of that admiration when it's followed up with total speculation, invoking: newfangled things, eggheads, God, jock-vs-nerd, etc., etc.

I will agree with you about public health officials in general. They are doing a great job during a difficult time. However, the higher ups (let's say, Fauci for instance) are so far out of touch with the average American, that they really shouldn't be speaking for us. Yes, just my $0.02 worth.

Masking up isn't quite as simplistic, imo, as you present it to be. I think the problem there can also be traced back to people like Fauci. That klown told us masks do no good, then they do good, then wear two. He also said the virus would be no problem. I think the omicron variant may be what convinces some to wear masks, assuming it's as easily transmitted as we're being told.

That's just it though, "as we're being told" The sheeple are the ones who do as they're told without question. Following the science, by definition, means asking questions. People could (and many have) learned a lot from true scientists like Sagan.

No, I’m not committing the ad hominem fallacy. An insult is not necessarily and ad hominem. Do yourself a favor and stop using words you don’t understand. In your case, that’s probably all of them.

You’re right — insults are even lower on the hierarchy of disagreement than true ad hominems.

You’re constantly doing some mixture of the two.

I tried offering you reasoning. You demonstrated you’re uninterested in it & would prefer to call names. So I respond in kind.

You’re not the pot calling the kettle black — you’re the pot calling the kettle a pot