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Corona Virus...IT's the FLU....

Corona Virus...IT's the FLU.... | image tagged in the flu,corona virus,vaccine,evil,democrats | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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NPC Meme | THE FLU IS GONE BECAUSE EVERYONE IS WEARING A MASK WHY IS COVID SPREADING? BECAUSE NO ONE IS WEARING A MAS- | image tagged in npc meme | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Buff Doge vs. Cheems Meme | COVID THE FLU School Lockdowns | image tagged in memes,buff doge vs cheems | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
Covid ≠ The Flu.
Shocking information I know.
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Missing the point | image tagged in missing the point | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Your point is to try and portray whichever unknown people as hypocrites and the premise equates covid and the flu. My point is that masks would only be 1 part of the equation and despite what you and the OP's meme might have people believe.............covid is not the flu. I mean to be fair I can't even read that tiny text around their maps. Can anyone??

I would also question where are the alleged NPCs saying covid is spreading because no one wore a mask. People obviously wore/wear masks however some people did/do not. I would also point out that many people who are anti mask are often also anti many other preventative measures including vaccines and considering that covid is clearly killing anti-vaxxers more than anyone else, that would also indicate that it's spreading amongst them.
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Again, you missed the point. Reread my comment.
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I don't think I did. Feel free to explain how I'm wrong.
Or not.
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You really should reread that meme.
But you won't.
And even if you did, you still wouldn't understand it, so what's the point?
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You do realize who that is, right?
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I read some ridiculous article from him years ago which I was going to post here but I failed to find it... He might have deleted it idk.
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Yep

You should watch one of his videos
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Is he the guy who's photo will prove I missed your point? Lol
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*it was at this moment darko_yolo realized that the change my mind man was Steven Crowder*
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Who said I haven't watched one of his videos?
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No one. You should watch some more.
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And anyway, yes you did.
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Lol
That moment when literally any discussion is portrayed as crying.
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ah yes, the classic make them into a wojak meme counterattack.
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https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
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Watch the simpletons jump on to tell you that the masks eradicated the flu. Nothing to see move along.
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https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
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OMG the flu is coming back! Kinda defeats the “flu disappeared because of masking and social distancing” narrative. If it was defeated how is it coming back?
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???
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That is essentially a strawman... You created the false narrative repeatedly trying to say that I was saying it "disappeared" and now you're asking how can something that disappeared come back.

If the current measures America is taking were equal to the measures taken in 2020, it shouldn't be coming back. Theoretically, it should yield more or less the same results.

However...we are clearly not anywhere near as paranoid/ careful as a society as we were in 2020. School, restaurants, and virtually everything else is open, masks are optional in many places, social distancing is lax af, and people who got vaccinated for covid with their families are probably not as careful these days because they're less worried about covid hospitalization and death. "Covid prevention fatigue" if you will, has long set in at a time when covid cases nationally are skyrocketing. In the next couple months, it will most likely top out and crash again and then we'll be even more lax with covid restrictions.
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You may not have said it disappeared but you infer it. Equating the drastically lower numbers being due to masking and social distancing and not being misdiagnosed as Covid you in effect believe the flu essentially disappeared. Now it’s coming back because we aren’t social distancing and masking. Except we are.
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If I had thought it disappeared, I would've said it disappeared. And you appear to be strawmanning me yet again. Masking and social distancing were only 2 of many preventative measures America took that I think affected the flu numbers. I would say that it is possible that part of what happened was people with the flu (and anything else) avoided the hospital to try and prevent catching covid (and thus lowered the number of reported flu cases)... But technically avoiding the hospital would still kind of be a "preventative measure"...and in any case it is still much different than trying to claim the flu is covid.

If you think the preventative measures/ conditions are the same now as they were in 2020 I mean idk what to say. That is delusional. I mean even driving down the street in 2020 you could tell something was clearly going on. There were noticeably less cars even on the road and many parking lots to pretty major stores were totally empty. To try and claim it is the same now as it was then is to play yourself. Even I have been slacking compared to 2020 as far as some preventative stuff....sanitizing my hands for one.
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I worked through the entire year of 2020 and there was a short period of time the California freeways were empty. Less than a month. After that people were in lines and stores etc. I don’t believe the flu was nearly eradicated and totally separate from the Covid. You do.
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Masks, vaccines, social distancing, schools being shut down, washing/sanitizing hands more frequently than normal, etc all probably played a role in less flu 2020-2021. However masks are the easiest thing to portray visually so ya. I stole that image of the multi-masker from someone else and used it here.
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Bullshit, the flu didn’t go away. It’s been here every year forever. It, as well as Covid, is resident in animals like dogs and cats. You can’t eradicate it with masks and it didn’t disappear.
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The point is some, if not most, of the regular flu cases must be being counted as Covid because there is no way it dropped that much. What does that say? We can’t tell the difference? Dishonesty in reporting? It says something because it didn’t disappear nor reduce by tens of millions of cases. Deaths from the flu disappeared as well after millennias of plagueing humans? Yeah right.
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Bullshit, the flu didn’t disappear. Mostly it’s being reported as Covid. As to the other I think you are referring to someone else. Covid is a real disease. People have died from it I have never claimed anything else. Are the left fear mongering and hyping it as naseum to Control The Population? Yes, absolutely. Is it known that people who die in a car accident that test positive for Covid are counted as Covid deaths. Absolutely, they are. Are people still dying of the regular flu? absolutely they are, despite calling every flu death Covid.
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So to be clear.... your position on this is:
"They" (unknown people on the left(?)) are and have been counting the vast majority of flu cases and all flu deaths as covid in order to create fear surrounding covid?
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I don’t know the reason, I am saying that it isn’t possible that the regular flu disappeared so the cases must be being ignored or counted as Covid. Would that further the lefts fear mongering and narrative? Sounds like it would.
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Well there is a bit of a difference between what you're saying

"covid cases were embellished with regular flu cases....maybe not everyone who got sick reported it.."

and the OP

"Coronavirus is the flu"
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"You say the flu miraculously disappeared."

Again.. no. Never said that. My claim is that the spread of the flu was most likely reduced severely by the never before taken precautions that were aimed at covid ( and maybe flu vaccination as well). Covid is more contagious than the flu so the same precautions that severely reduced the flu were/are less effective against covid..... The flu did not disappear and it was not a miracle.

"It’s possible the flu numbers inflated the number of Covid cases but didn’t produce any more deaths than it usually does. Somewhere between 12 and 50K per year. Those deaths were likely counted as Covid as well."..

Ok looking at your range, lets say there were 30k actual flu deaths per year during flu season 2020 and this season 2021. That would be 60k total deaths from the flu... allegedly counted as covid. 800k deaths counted as covid- 60k would leave 740,000+ actual deaths from covid. Which at least that is mathematically feasible on some level.

But on the other hand... if the OP meme is accurate, ~35 million flu cases typically happen per year... For 2020 and 2021 that would be~70 million cases allegedly counted as covid. According to our world in data & the NYT there has only been 57.7 million cases of covid in America..... 57.7m - 70m = negative 12.3million.

To combine these allegations (assuming you think both the number of cases and deaths of the flu were attributed to covid numbers), mathematically would mean somehow more than 100% of all covid cases on record were actually the flu. And somehow those negative 12.3 million covid cases caused 740,000 covid deaths.

I mean mathematically that makes no sense. At least my claim is theoretically possible.
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The final national data on flu season is released annually in April by the CDC .

Between October 1, 2019 and April 4, 2020, the flu resulted in:

39 to 56 million illnesses
410,000 to 740,000 hospitalizations
24,000 to 62,000 deaths
195 pediatric deaths
Between October 1, 2020 and April 1, 2021, the flu resulted in:

1,675 illnesses
224 hospitalizations
Unknown number of deaths
One pediatric death
The CDC outlines possible reasons for the lower numbers and unavailable data in its 2020-2021 flu season summary.

Still Not buying it. Covid cases were most certainly embellished with regular flu cases. However maybe not everyone who got sick reported it for fear of it being labeled Covid. There are many reasons why cases would go unreported when people have nutty reactions to the sick.
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If what you're saying is true, that would mean covid is wayyyyy more deadly than anyone thought.

Let's say 50million of the 53 million covid cases since the pandemic began were actually the flu... That would mean there were only about 3 million actual covid cases.

Average annual flu deaths on the high side are 50k per year. So if 100k of the 800,000+ who they claim died of covid actually died from the flu.......... That leaves 700,000+ deaths from only 3 million covid cases.
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I’m just saying where did the flu go? You draw your own conclusions. You say the flu miraculously disappeared. How Convenient. It’s possible the flu numbers inflated the number of Covid cases but didn’t produce any more deaths than it usually does. Somewhere between 12 and 50K per year. Those deaths were likely counted as Covid as well. The flu did not disappear.
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There are plenty of examples of people dying in car accidents - but are classified as covid deaths. Doctors and hospitals are scrambling to classify everything as covid because they get federal money for every reported case.....gunshot victims - COVID, construction accidents - COVID, heck - the elderly are being classified as COVID cases, even when they've outlived the national life expectancy age.

It's going to be interesting to see revised numbers as the hoax unravels.
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So to be clear... You are claiming many (?) doctors are committing fraud just to get a few thousand dollars more than they would otherwise for non-covid related deaths?
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non-covid diagnosis federal payout: $0
covid diagnosis federal payout: $13,000
ventilator bonus federal payout: $26,000

No - not a few thousand dollars, $39,000 dollars - per patient. It's in black and white - in the CARES act. And the patient doesn't have to die for them to get the payout, but it's convenient to slap a covid diagnosis on any old death, because it's free money. All they have to do is come up with a positive test, or sometimes even a with a presumed covid diagnosis. In the middle of a pandemic, who's going to question the doctors diagnosis? This concern was raised by Senator (Dr.) Scott Jensen of Minnesota.

https://www.aha.org/special-bulletin/2020-03-26-senate-passes-coronavirus-aid-relief-and-economic-security-cares-act

It doesn't surprise me that you don't know about this. So few people bother reading these days.....probably because so few have the attention span necessary to do so.
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you don't drop from 38,000,000 to less than 2,000 with masks vaccines social distancing schools shut down, washing hands... Etc. You might reduce that by 20 percent tops with all of the precautions.

Weird too - if you take the COVID delta and regular covid and add up their cases over the year.... It's almost as if the flu was being marked as strictly covid.
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"you don't drop from 38,000,000 to less than 2,000 with masks vaccines social distancing schools shut down, washing hands... Etc. You might reduce that by 20 percent tops with all of the precautions."

Let me guess.. no source?

"It's almost as if the flu was being marked as strictly covid."

Why's that? How many of the 53 million cases that they say is covid are you saying was not actually covid?
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Do your own research
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You only looked in the fiction section 👍👍
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Ah yes... when all else fails, make more claims you can't prove.
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You can't prove that I can't prove it... Other than making the claim, which I am under no obligation to oblige and provide said proof. Check mate.
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Unless you're pretty adept at hacking there's literally no way you could know I looked anywhere let alone the "fiction section" of the internet.
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This has been more fun than normal politics: change my mind
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;P
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Problem?
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If you are confused about what I said feel free to ask questions.
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Oh I'm not confused, It doesn't make logical sense.
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Ah I see now that you as well as that other person were both sending me vague memes with no text.
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Mkay.
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Emptiest.. conversation.. ever.
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