I just had to make a joke, but seriously, get the vaccine if you haven’t already

My mom literally just gives me 500 different vitamins and calls it a day

Bruh moment

I would get it if I could

I know, a lot of us would get the vaccine, I understand the reasons like: their pregnant and they don’t know how it will affect the baby or they are currently sick with something else. If you won’t get it because of a fear of “the government is trying to track everyone with microchips” that’s what I think is stupid lmao.

My parents just think they're trying to control us and eventually send us to concentration camps

I hate them sometimes

I don’t think they’re trying to track everyone with microchips, although that may come one day. I don’t like the idea of vaccines because 1) my immune system sucks and I’m worried personally that vaccines would just give me a disease, 2) vaccines don’t always work for people with un-compromised immune systems, and 3) they can have vicious side effects; for example, there are vaccines that give children autism quickly.

Did you just say Vaccines give people autism?

some have had autistic side effects, whether it is full on autism i’m not sure, but what I do know is that parents get mad about it and the media does everything they can to keep it out of the public. i’m going to bed now tho

Side affects for vaccines don’t last more than 3 days, and usually not more than 2

What sort of “autistic” side affects are these? (When you come back, I’m genuinely confused by what you mean)

Hold on hold on a minute…I’m sorry I understood where you were coming from at first but you cannot be “given “ autism. You cannot become autistic, it’s something you are born with. However, autism won’t become obvious usually around age three I think it was, so that is often mistaken for “becoming” autistic.

That’s the thing. You’re not supposed to behave like you’re autistic unless you’re born with autism. But the flu vaccine has caused kids to behave like they have autism in less than 24 hours.
Also, if you want to believe the words of certain scientists, that’s fine. But just know, these are the companies funded by junk food restaurants to tell you that certain junk food is good for you. Some of these companies have had famous reporters fired in the 1950s just because they were talking about the health benefits of a diet that would derail their business. The left talks about not trusting big business; the biggest business that shouldn’t be trusted is in some of the branches of the science department.

nah, ik too many instances of the vaccines being harmful. my father knows someone who had a close relative die instantly from the vaccine. my mother’s friend knows two people who got disabled from it. someone i know of has temporarily quit working as a nurse bc she’s seen too many people suffer from the vaccine and she said “i’m not killing innocent people.” and finally, some of my cousins have taken the vaccine and gotten covid less than 10 days later. All this happening and the news media just throwing away people’s concerns about the vaccines and just calling those people stupid and anti-scientific is really bothersome to me, since those concerns are extremely real. The media doesn’t get to dictate what science is; reality does. And the media doesn’t get to reshape reality either. They’re too inconsiderate and heartless for that.

Explain exactly what happened

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Now I’m very sorry for your family but I do believe the vaccines don’t completely erase your chances of getting COVID. I understand this likely makes you skeptical of the vaccine, but many scientists have assured there are no harmful chemicals that cause this

that’s exactly what my problem is. We’ve been told masks were helpful when they weren’t. People at completely masked outings get Covid all the time, and there have been outings before the vaccine without masks where no one got Covid. It all depends on who has it. My own mother got Covid last year at a completely masked hospital when she went because of a fall and had nothing to do with sickness. Yet masks were supposed to be the saviors.
Also, some of the side effects of the Covid vaccine that I’ve heard of were so severe (like throwing up blood and stuff like that) that I’d rather get Covid than take the vaccine. I’ve had Covid before and it was nothing like that.
I’m not big on conspiracy theories very much because I want to believe the best about everyone because I want everyone to have a chance. But everything that is going on with Covid is definitely not right and seems extremely suspicious.

Masks do work, but they don’t protect you as much as they protect others if you have COVID from spreading it. Also, anything you’ve heard about “coughing up blood” from the vaccine is likely untrue or completely unrelated. I’m glad you aren’t buying into conspiracies, but I can assure you masks and being vaccinated has saved me from the high (for Hawaii) level of infection in my state

Germ particles are smaller than the holes in masks. Surgical masks work but cloth ones and plastic ones don’t. Some plastic ones will work, but they’ll kinda cost you your ability to breathe so that’s not gonna work.
also bruh I heard the coughing up blood thing directly from the person who dealt with it.

You’ve never had it?

I do wish I could go undercover in the political stuff now because I am starting to suspect something that the no news media, Republican or Democrat has ever suggested, and if that suspicion were true, it would be very horrible but it would need to get exposed. But I don’t want to make accusations without proof.

Actually I haven’t. It’s sad that medical facts are now political issues, but I do think that masks at least somewhat shield COVID particles from being released

yes, i agree, it means that people would rather adhere to what their political idols say than figure out what’s actually real. I do find it odd that one particular political party went from calling the other side racist and accusing them of infringing upon American rights for banning international travel, especially with China, but once Covid gets here, that party is the party that suddenly cares about the people not getting it. Something about that seems off.

they might, but only one or a very few particles need to touch someone for it to cause problems, so it won’t matter much.

“Correlation is not causation”, could apply to any of these. Meaning because someone got the vaccine a couple days ago, and than learned they had autism does not mean the vaccine definitely caused that. There is no substantial way to prove the vaccine caused those things, and respectfully it probably didn’t.

Also don’t know how the vaccine would cause disablement, or what disabled means specifically here.

Also someone instantly dying after taking a vaccine sounds outrageous, I know some media is biased but if someone dropped dead Immediately after taking a vaccine, you’d hear that somewhere. No idea how that would even happen, and if it did I’d guess it was due to improper treatment rather than the vaccine itself. Not an expert tho.

On the last case you mentioned with your cousins, getting the vaccine is not an 100% promise you’re not gonna get COVID, no one claimed that.

In conclusion: I don’t think this vaccine is any more dangerous than any other vaccine I would happily get. What it comes to is this, are the potential side effects of this vaccine (which, yes, all vaccines ever have had side effects), worse than the actual thing I’m getting vaccinated for? If the answer is yes, you *should* have the right to say no to the vaccine.

that wasn’t the covid vaccine that caused autism, that was an example i was giving about vaccines in general. also that has happened with one specific vaccine so commonly that it is much like a domino effect.

Disabled might mean unable to walk or use limbs in the same way. In the Covid vaccine case, people were stopped from controlling their limbs fully, and it was two people simultaneously right after taking the vaccine. that is not a coincidence.

Dropping dead is a little dramatic, especially since many americans are couch potatoes. However, I do not think it would make the news, because it doesn’t support their agenda. The news picks what they air based on what will promote their mission. I never heard of Tony Tempas until I heard a black preacher talking about how his situation was similar if not worse than George Floyd’s and that the media didn’t cover it at all because he was white. I remember when a shooting was prohibited in 2016 because one guy had a gun and shot the guy before he made a mess, but because the media was trying to advocate for taking people’s guns away, that was never going to make the news, and not I nor anybody else I knew expected it to.

If a vaccine has harsh side effects and doesn’t guarantee freedom from the disease it’s made for, what is the point? You’re putting yourself at even more risk than before. That’s been my entire point.

You are fully vaccinated a week after you get the vaccine, before then you don’t have as many antibodies
There is an incubation period for viruses, and if it happened 10 days after the vaccine that would imply they where exposed before 7 days

Yes, vaccines can cause that if your allergic to the ingredients. That’s why I’m saying it’s ok for you not to get the vaccine. If it’s genuinely harmful to you or you think it will affect your baby later, that’s fine, don’t take it, but if you are one of those people who are sitting there like: “THEIR PUTTING MICROCHIPS IN THE VACCINES TO TRACK YOU!” and you have no health issues or aren’t allergic to the vaccine, that’s what’s stupid af. Also the media is over politicizing shit like the vaccine and then not even writing or showing the correct data on said vaccine is annoying and dangerous. It’s possible they could have been allergic to some of the ingredients in the vaccine, and it’s not like a vaccine gives full immunity either, I had the vaccine (two shots) and I’m fine. My brother on the other hand got sick. It really depends on the person.

i never said anything about microchips. That is something I will worry about when we have our first communist in office, and not a second before. However, if I ever end up stuck in a country with a communist leader, it would mean I was a failure in life. I wouldn’t throw that idea out if there’s legitimate reason to be afraid of it, but if it’s fully from conspiracy theories there’s no reason to believe them.
also, that’s a lot of allergies for so many people that are known by a few people in a very small town I live in. I’ve only mentioned people connected to four people I know. So either way you put it, there’s a problem. Either there’s a problem with some vaccines, or a high percentage of people are allergic to them, which would be its own problem.
And I assure you I have no political bias in my opinion of vaccines, but the media sure does seem to. I’m just cautious. Isn’t it funny that the same media that urges caution with Covid doesn’t urge caution with vaccines? it’s almost as if both parties have their opinions flipped on covid vs vaccines. that bothers me.

I know you didn’t, I just hate people who make up these stupid conspiracy theories. It’s good to be cautious, I was cautious when it first came out too. I got my shots before the Delta Variant is announced, whether I’m getting another booster or not is a question I still have yet to answer, but I’m just gonna see how all of this plays out first. It would be great if the media was actually unbiased.

okay then
yes I agree, I wish we could just know truth instead of what people wanted us to know. Then people just divide based on total bias.