Forced Medical Procedures

The important thing to understand is that vaccines in the 18th century were not loaded up with dangerous preservatives that cause neurological problems. Aluminum, formaldehyde, and mercury. That's the real danger. As far as the NEW Covid vaccines - they aren't even vaccines in the traditional use of the word. They are gene therapy that reprogram your genetic code to produce new proteins. So what Washington was purportedly talking about is not the same thing as what we deal with today in the modern vaccine environment.

You should probably read up on the history of vaccines because early vaccines were a lot more dangerous. Variolization (the procedure at the time) had a case fatality rate of 5 to 10 percent. And even if all went well, inoculated patients still needed a month to recover. The procedure was not only risky for the individual patient, but for the surrounding population.

The erhylmercury (currently only in flu vaccine), aluminum and formaldehyde in vaccines is a small amount.

As far as gene therapy - viruses reproduce by inserting themselves into the cell and using the cell to make copies of itself. How is that any better/different than the vaccines?

Because the original idea / use of the vaccines is that they stimulated the body's NATURAL response, and nature knows how to program the antibodies better than humans and computers. This is already proving true as boosters are needed because the new vaccines are crap and not even working, while those with natural immunity aren't getting reinfected.

Natural immunity is more effective in most studies, but you have to survive COVID to get it.

So getting the vaccine is the safer route as you can get vaccinated and if you get COVID your risks are much lower. Then you have natural immunity too. Win/win

Both the vaccinated and unvaccinated are getting reinfected because the initial antibodies produced don't make us permanently immune. They are very effective immediately after and that reduces pretty quickly. By 6 months out it is down to about 20% effective for vaccinated, and the time frame seems to vary far more for natural immunity depending on how severe the case was. But our bodies still retain the ability to immediately start producing those antibodies again when they encounter the virus/spike protein.

mRNA vaccines cause the body to produce the spike protein that is the same as the spike protein of the actual virus - it is how the virus infects cells. The spike protein is produced without the actual virus via mRNA messaging to the cells. It is still our immune system that identifies the spike protein and creates an immune response. However, it is only the initial vaccine that contains the mRNA to produce the spike proteins, as it breaks down in your system the production of spike proteins stop since those spike proteins produced don't actually have a payload to deliver to our cells. This is unlike COVID where each time it inserts itself into a cell it would be producing more virus that could/ would infect other cells and other people.

When/if exposed to COVID afterwards our bodies already have a defense based on that same spike protein. And if a variant comes along with a spike protein that is different, chances are it won't be as infectious as the current strains.

I'm going to be honest - I've been geeking out over just how brilliant an approach this is since I read up on it.

An inoculation is not what this MRNA vaccine is. It also has not been proven to be any threat to the armed forces and America is not currently at war.

J&J isn't mRNA based.

How many dead soldiers would we need before it's a problem?

More than a couple. Hasn’t been shown to be especially deadly to service age people in good physical Condition has it?

Not really my point - my point is that situationally, the founders had no issue with requiring vaccines.

The DOD COVID-19 mortality rate is just over 0.02 - which is about 100x better than the population as a whole. Combine that with the 90% vaccination rate and those numbers should go down further. That comes out to ~75 deaths. That's more than died in Afghanistan or Iraq for the last few years, though not have died by suicide.

https://www.defense.gov/Spotlights/Coronavirus-DOD-Response/

George Washington made a decision while at war with a fisentigrating army. That’s not the “founders” nor is this situation anything like that one. The virus was and is not a great threat to the functioning of the armed forces.

The extenuating circumstances aren't relevant - if the first Congress had issue, they could have added an amendment.

Noe your can argue that smallpox killed 30% of infected which is far more deadly than Covid, but the meme isn't about whether or is warranted - it implies that it's unconstitutional.

No, it implies that it is not a power granted by the constitution. Meaning one guy named Fauci can’t take away your livelihood or your ability to gather.

But, the bill of rights doesn't just address the powers of the people, it restricts the government. Thus, you could read as much from it's omission as a right of the people as you could it's omission as a power of the federal government.

The 10th amendment would seem to allow individual states to enforce vaccinations, limited of course by their own state constitutions.

Did I miss the memo where Fauci was given emergency powers? Because the executive orders came from Biden for federal employees and medical workers. And the 5th circuit court (I think) blocked the OSHA requirement. Which is our three branches balancing each other, as intended.

I guess next move of Biden: does he go at it differently? Does he push Congress to enact something, what?

Personally, I would have OSHA push the current standard as a non regulatory recommendation. That would give employer's flexibility to whether they are following this standard, or not.

No you are wrong, any rights not given specifically to the Federal Government are retained by the people and their states.

Fauci is a demagogue who has been the driver of policy that Biden and Trump followed. He was not elected and should not have the power to extinguish religious observance and close peoples businesses.

He doesn't have the power to do so. Nobody at the federal level has restricted religious gathering or any gatherings for that matter.

Elected officials blaming appointed officials for the decisions they've made is nonsense. Trump could have replaced him. States didn't have to listen, and many didn't.

So because they have plausible deniability it’s ok? They refused to continue that type of research here due to the danger. Fauci sent it to China so he could keep it going and made sure to have plausible deniability.

I mean even if he intentionally did it, he had plausible deniability. Which is intentionally modeled after actual deniability. It is this hard to prove whether he actually knew.

Gain of function was banned under Obama, but was allowed under Trump with certain oversight and approval. So it could have been approved, but it was judged that what we were funding wasn't GoF and it didn't go through that approval process.

If you can establish he knew, charge him.

Decisions were made based on Faucis poor advice. Biden is trying to impress a national mandate on the country based on what Faici tells him. Doesn’t matter if he has the power directly if he is the primary advisor on that subject to the man that does wield the power.

But it does matter. And one of the things I personally like about Fauci is his advice matches CDC, FDA, and WHO guidance. A few times when he hasn't matched WHO guidance, it has been explained. A few times we were ahead of WHO or other situations.

Their will always be experts and expert opinions. Fauci isn't saying anything that most medical others aren't also saying.

Biden wants everyone vaccinated because he needs a victory. It is inaccurate to blame that on Fauci.

Fauci covered up funding the research, and tried to deny it came from the Wuhan Lab his wife works at the FDA so there’s conflict of interest. He’s a beaurocrat and a liar. He should be brought up on Charges.

NIS funded a non profit that then funded COVID research in Wuhan. Something like $600,000 to profile certain viruses. 600k isn't much in the realm of medical research. And even if the money was spent on gain of function, the NIS has plausible deniability.

His wife works for the FDA. So? There is only a conflict if there are situations where his or her authority impacted the others. From a legal standpoint, they would just need to recuse themselves.

If someone has charges to bring him up on, they should feel free.

99.5+% survival rate without "vaccine"

is that a trumper?

Leftist. Obviously.

So you didn't have anything else on 99.5+% survival rate? Gotta change topics?

heavy casualties to get to "herd immunity" without a vax.

long term complications too.

https://www.google.com/search?q=long+term+covid+complications

So are you cool with forcing people to get a vaccination? How about their children?

are you ok with endless lockdowns because of political antivaxxing and antimasking?

by stubborn conservative adult children who are just butthurt trumpy lost?