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Study math! It might save your life | MOST PEOPLE WHO GET COVID GET BETTER. IF YOU STAND ON YOUR HEAD WITH COVID, THEN GET BETTER, DID STANDING ON YOUR HEAD CURE YOU? WHAT DOES A PERSON WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND STATISTICS SAY? | image tagged in statistics,math,coronavirus,covid-19,medicine | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Maybe you would like to know about HCQ as well.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/

...Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. Favorable inhibition of virus spread was observed when the cells were either treated with chloroquine prior to or after SARS CoV infection.....

....The infectivity of coronaviruses other than SARS-CoV are also affected by chloroquine, as exemplified by the human CoV-229E [15]. The inhibitory effects observed on SARS-CoV infectivity and cell spread occurred in the presence of 1–10 μM chloroquine, which are plasma concentrations achievable during the prophylaxis and treatment of malaria (varying from 1.6–12.5 μM) [26] and hence are well tolerated by patients. ...
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Interesting. I want to see the results of the live RCTs, not in vitro.
1 up, 3y
I think we all do.
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Science, it might save your life.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/
1 up, 3y,
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So in other words (profilactic), take your daily dose of ivermectin....
0 ups, 3y,
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Perhaps. When I tested positive for Covid, I took HCQ, ivermectin, zinc, and antibiotic. Within three days I felt 100% better.
2 ups, 3y,
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Just as I said last time, lucky you.
1 up, 3y,
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I’m not the only one who could be lucky.
2 ups, 3y,
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Let us hope not, only the best for all.
1 up, 3y
All that is available.
0 ups, 3y,
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https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD015017.pub2/full

The science is still out. Your personal experience is valid, but statistically non-significant . . . it could be a classic case of regression to mean.

I really appreciate your sharing your citations.
1 up, 3y
Yes, the science is still out.
It is good to know that during the Civil War the concept of RCT did not exist, as many lives were saved by doctors performing amputations without the blessing of RCTs.
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This is true: but there's a reason that's the gold standard. Since most people who get Covid get better, an RCT is the best way of telling the difference of getting better with treatment as opposed to getting better because of the treatment.

The argument from Ben Goldacre:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/nov/22/health-bad-science-colds
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That must be similar to dying with Covid or dying of Covid!
0 ups, 3y
Indeed!
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I don’t lose any sleep not knowing how many people get better with treatment as opposed to getting better because of the treatment. I just don’t know how some people can sleep not knowing how many lives might’ve been saved by using an inexpensive relatively safe treatment because they told people not to use it.
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I'm going to disagree there: it's important to know. Because if they're getting better with instead of because, we're just giving them a placebo. Also, I always skip to the end of the mystery novel . . .
1 up, 3y,
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It might be true I will never know if I got better with or because of what I took. But it’s also true all the people who died will never know if they would’ve lived if they had taken the treatment.
0 ups, 3y
Hence the need for the science.
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Does anyone know what the mean for covid cases is at any given time?
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The recovery time I keep seeing cited is 1-2 weeks. However, with as many millions as have been infected, you'd think there'd be nice data to be found.
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Oh…. You are referring to recovery time. Got it.
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That would be the mean to which they are regressing, if regression to mean is what is happening (my best guess).
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