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Of course, the Owner *can* pull rank on his Mods, on this stream and anywhere. But when *should* he?

Of course, the Owner *can* pull rank on his Mods, on this stream and anywhere. But when *should* he? | The stream owner’s role here, as I see it, is to serve as a check on the worst mod abuses. For example: If WhiteNat were able to somehow get an alt elected President, appointed other alts of his as Congresspeople, and started using PRESIDENTS stream as a base for spreading anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial, that would be a clear case where owner intervention would be justified. However, in this instance there has been ample evidence presented to justify banning RichardChill for some period of time. Others here may disagree with the decision, but the decision was arrived at by deliberation among duly elected and appointed representatives, and is supported by more than a scintilla of evidence. In this case, an owner overruling a democratic decision is overstepping his authority. | image tagged in sloth thonks,meme stream,meanwhile on imgflip,imgflip mods,imgflip_presidents,richardchill | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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[deleted] M
2 ups, 3y,
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Kill yourself guy | LET ME STOP YOU RIGHT THERE | image tagged in kill yourself guy | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
It's his stream, his rules. He can do what he likes with his stream, same as you can with politicsTOO.
Omega_Void
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
I thought the point of this stream was a democratic role play and not a dictatorship with puppets pretending to have power.
[deleted] M
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
A functioning stream has to have a strong owner, otherwise it will go wrong. Every stream that has tried the whole democratic route has either fallen apart, got taken over by someone with more malicious intentions, or reformed their stream putting an emphasis on more effective moderation and ownership.
Omega_Void
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
The meme never says that there shouldn’t be a strong owner. It just says that the owner shouldn’t abuse their power.
[deleted] M
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Except he’s not
Omega_Void
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
Going against the will of the people is abusing his power
[deleted] M
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
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Like I said, his stream, his rules. As long as he’s not violating Imgflip ToS, he can do what he wants. If you don’t like how he runs his stream, then create your own.
[deleted]
0 ups, 3y,
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[deleted] M
0 ups, 3y
Wubbzymon M
2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Upvoted and true
[deleted]
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
I don't know what to do now. Envoy is ruining this stream for everyone. I have only one card left to play and I don't think you're going to like it.
Wubbzymon M
1 up, 3y
which is?
EnvoyOfTheDeep M
2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
we are skipping around the fact that the evidence used to prove Richard's guilt, was without a doubt, and 100% doctored. Do you think the results are gonna be accurate when the only evidence given is fake evidence? you cant possibly think that's a fair trial. the screenshots simultaneously claimed to be from 2 months, and 2 days ago. that's just not possible.
Slobama
1 up, 3y,
2 replies
COTW offered an explanation for that discrepancy.

But beyond the alleged assassination plot and the trial, we are talking about a pattern here. The IRA controversy is still fresh in everyone’s minds. The GreenieMeanie alt. The daily torrent of “u mad bro” and “cope”-style comments. Etc. Etc. Do we really need to litigate it all? We’d be here for days.

Chaos. Agent. He admits it himself.
EnvoyOfTheDeep M
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
what was it that he offered?

again, im not defending Richard or his actions, but the case was handled badly, and once again, rushed. if we want to take a closer look at the evidence and decide on a proper punishment I can and will not stop you.
[deleted]
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
"I can and will not stop you"?

Remember the impeachment last time? You said I could try doing it all over again, and when I did you just blocked it anyway no matter how much evidence I threw at you. You knew full well that you would just block my attempt to start the impeachment again and that you were only intentionally wasting my time, most likely in an attempt to wind me up so you could discredit me. You also only noticed this flaw at the last moment, after Congress already voted. It's the exact same thing here. So you will try to stop us like you did last time, you liar.
EnvoyOfTheDeep M
2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
I didn't stop you from doing a trial I stopped you from doing a wrongly-handled trial. besides, this is all irrelevant, this is a different situation. you want to prove Richard tried to assassinate wubbzy? you're free to do so, but please, next time, take a look at your evidence first.
[deleted]
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
We're only free to hold a trial before you shut it down because no amount of evidence will ever be good enough to please you. I'm starting to give up with trying to reason with you.
EnvoyOfTheDeep M
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
umm yeah, doctored evidence doesnt really count as evidence.
[deleted]
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
ummm yeah, doctored evidence is any evidence that results in a verdict you don't like, no matter how convincing it is.
EnvoyOfTheDeep M
1 up, 3y,
2 replies
you still deny it’s doctored? have you not been paying attention?
[deleted]
1 up, 3y
lol whatever you want to tell yourself 😂
[deleted]
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
I don’t think I’m the one who needs to pay attention here.
EnvoyOfTheDeep M
1 up, 3y
ig, i’ve been offline for most of this week but i seem to have a better understanding of what’s happened then you.
EnvoyOfTheDeep M
1 up, 3y
hello? cuz that's a pretty big deal. up to this point, I've not necessarily thought Richard was innocent but that the evidence provided was faulty, if he has an explanation that makes sense that changes everything.
EnvoyOfTheDeep M
2 ups, 3y
yeah, ample evidence if the evidence wasn't obviously doctored.
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The stream owner’s role here, as I see it, is to serve as a check on the worst mod abuses. For example: If WhiteNat were able to somehow get an alt elected President, appointed other alts of his as Congresspeople, and started using PRESIDENTS stream as a base for spreading anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial, that would be a clear case where owner intervention would be justified. However, in this instance there has been ample evidence presented to justify banning RichardChill for some period of time. Others here may disagree with the decision, but the decision was arrived at by deliberation among duly elected and appointed representatives, and is supported by more than a scintilla of evidence. In this case, an owner overruling a democratic decision is overstepping his authority.