If you believe that the NWO exists, please look at this meme. Does this look familiar? NWO Conspiracy & the like, is Yellow Jo

When it comes to Divine Punishment, God takes direct control, not man. If Jew or Gentile is going to be punished by God, then God will directly do it without anyone else's input.

Amen, Graeystone.

Nope, ancient Hebrews shit the bed by breaking their Covenant and got theirs in 70AD. The "jews" of modern day Israel have zero genetic relation to them. They are Eastern Europeans who speak Yiddish and follow the racist Talmud in their apartheid State, waiting for the anti-Christ.

i’ve heard this argument used by holocaust deniers, are you a holocaust denier? just wondering

Hi JeffreyRyan.

1st - I've actually written om that for the meme above imgflip.com/i/5ap1y4 in the comment section.

Here is what I've written:

ON THE JEWS (PART II): ARE THE ASHKENAZI, KHAZARS?

The controversy began with Shlomo Sand with his book, "Inventing the Jewish People" (2009) in which he claimed, through DNA research, that the Ashkenazi which the majority of the worlds Jewry are really descendents of the Khazars, a Turkic people who've converted to Judaism and moved from the kingdom of Khazaria to Eastern and Central Europe.

This presented a number of problems, not only because it contradicted common understanding that the Jews from the maternal standpoint were from Europe, but also brought an excuse for anti-semites to hate the Jews without... being rightly called, "Antisemitic".

While there is some credence to the narrative (after all, there were such a people of Khazaria), in my mind there are a host problems with the conclusion.

First of all, why were most of the Ashkenazi look more European than Khazarian?

Second, if they were Khazarian then there must be visible, cultural traits that wouldn't be original to Jews such as dress, practices, and customs, but nothing was noticed even by the proponents of of the narrative.

Third, according to the critics of the narrative, there were no records of the Khazarian conversion to Judaism.

The Truth: new DNA findings published in Nature Magazine (Oct. 8 2013), proved otherwise. Thus, the Ashkenazim retained their Jewishness.

SOURCES
1. "Are the Ashkennazi Jews Descended from Khazars?" By Sara Ivry
July 3, 2014 • 12:30 PM The Tablet Magazine https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/178152/are-ashkenazi-jews-descended-from-khazars
2. "Genetic Roots of the Ashkenazi Jews" By Kate Vandell form The Scientists published October 8 2013 the-scientist.com/daily-news/genetic-roots-of-the-ashkenazi-jews-38580

3rd - The Talmud is not a predominately racist book. The Talmud, for which there are at least three or four, are commentaries of the Bible by Jewish scholars. It also includes their opinions on how rites are to be done, what to wear, legal questions, etc.

The Talmud, such as the Babylonian Talmud, are compilations of their writings increased over time, spanning for centuries. It remains the most popular as it is the most comprehensive.

The Babylonian Talmud itself was written in the 5th century after the Jews were expelled from their homeland because of antisemitic persecution.

Furthermore, since it is a compilation of writings made by different scholars, not all agree with each other in how they view other people.

Since the Babylonian Talmud is made in the Middle East, I doubt your claim that it is racist.

2nd - Yes, the Jews were punished for killing Christ. Even so, they remained the chosen people of God.

In Zechariah 2:8 it says:

8 For thus saith the Lord of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.

Furthermore in Romans 11:1-2

1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew (a)....

As of now, they are in a state of unbelief; they remain unwilling to believe. However, there is another reason for it:

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
- Romans 11:11-12

This shows that:
- God pre-ordained their fall so that the Gentiles will believe
- That despite their state of unbelief, He is still reaching out to them
- And that one day, the Jews will return to Him (Zechariah 12:10)

Too late in the game for that. If you read a book like Who Wrote the Bible it's clear enough the text is a major work of editing, done be people of rival tribes. They hid the parts they didn't like and embellished the parts they wanted to play up. The work of these nameless editors wasn't even preserved properly and can hardly be taken as proof of any sort of promise from God. They blew their Covenant. It's over.

Your "this shows that" is contrived nonsense.

Before I answer that: do you believe in God? Are you a Christian?

Oh my. You've lost before you've begun.

"Nutjob. Learn English and Critical Thinking."

If the only rebuttal you have is an insult then I've won this debate.

Now you have a decision to make. Are you going to continue hating the Jews in which, whoever hates someone in their hearts is guilty of murder:

21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
- Matthew 5:21-22

Or, will you end that hatred and see them as sinful as everyone else; including you?

Now, may I ask, do you think you're a good person?

ON THE JEWS (PART I): THE CHOSEN PEOPLE OF GOD

What I mean is, if the Bible was biased towards the Jews, then it wouldn't include marring and scandalous details that can easily be used against them, but would have been taken as a work of propaganda.

This isn't the case.

You read the bible, and it presents a far more negative image of the Jews than any would be comfortable with.

While there's an obvious benefit to being called the chosen people of God, which places them above all people in anyone's mind, there is also a negative aspect of it as well. Why, because unlike the un-elected nations, they bear the heavy responsibility of representing God's righteousness (Isaiah 42:6). It is through them that God used
to demonstrate His goodness before the world.

For that responsibility, they are blessed materialistically, as a show of how God can bless nations who trust and obey Him. However, they are more severely punished if they disobey Him (Deuteronomy 28).

Now recall how unflattering their history is in scripture.... they've failed in that responsibility far more than they did in bearing it faithfully (Psalms 106 & Romans 2:17-24).

The Jews were never chosen because they were better in terms of numbers or worth, in fact, He had said they're a "Stiff-necked people", but God simply chose them to affect His will (Deuteronomy 7:7-9, 9:6-18, & Romans 9:16).

Arguably, God chose the least of the people-group to demonstrate His grace, meaning: undeserved kindness.

SCRIPTURE REFERENCE LINK (Excluding Deuteronomy 28 as it is too long):
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+42%3A6%2C+Psalms+106++Romans+2%3A17-24%2C+Deuteronomy+7%3A7-9%2C+9%3A6-18%2C+Romans+9%3A16&version=ESV

Hardly, it is a simple question, JeffreyRyan. Care to answer it? There before you is the rebuttal to your claim which, also have already been written by me.

Your major mistake is to think God calling a people a "chosen people" is eternal and immutable. This is not a promise from God to them but conditional on the program GOD is running. A chosen people if they keep their Covenant. They didn't. So it's over and they were routed in 70AD. There are no more Hebrews of the 12 tribes. Just some Judeans who have all intermarried with other groups. Now there are only Europeans claiming to be Jews who follow the wicked Talmud, not the Torah.

Your argument that they are still the chosen people is ludicrous and offensive. They are the worst of people, then and now, always closer to idolatry and magic than faith. They rejected all of God's REAL chosen and select, Moses, Jesus and others, until today. They claim they are waiting for their prophet and messiah, but the truth is readily apparent from their own flag and racist Zionist beliefs. It is literally a pure Satanic symbol, and has nothing to do with David. It represents the occult belief in man and woman uniting physically to become godlike, in defiance of God. They are in fact preparing for the anti-Christ, and want to established this Satanic kingdom between the two rivers, also shown on their flag.

My argument is backed by scripture, and yet I have not seen even one scripture from you.

"Your major mistake is to think God calling a people a "chosen people" is eternal and immutable."

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
- Genesis 17:7-8

"Your argument that they are still the chosen people is ludicrous and offensive. They are the worst of people, then and now, always closer to idolatry and magic than faith. "

9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
- Romans 3:9-18

Their sins are that they are as Gentiles worshipping their gods and practicing their abominations. This, despite God's goodness towards them and the miracles He wrought. But isn't that the thing the Gentiles are guilty of as well?

Please see the following link: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A18-28&version=KJV

So, out of all the people guilty of the aforementioned sins in both Romans 1 and 3 He has chosen Israel to be His. He had done so not because they're better, but because He is gracious (Jews: Deuteronomy 7:7-9; & Gentiles: 1 Corinthians 1:27)

Seems you don't understand the basic meaning of the word COVENANT. You're not smart enough to do this.

An everlasting covenant can be broken

God’s covenant has shown to be broken through rebellion – contrary to God’s will.

Genesis 17:14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

Leviticus 26:15 And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant:—44 And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the Lord their God.

Psalm 55:20 He hath put forth his hands against such as be at peace with him: he hath broken his covenant.

Deuteronomy 31:16 And the Lord said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.—20 For when I shall have brought them into the land which I sware unto their fathers, that floweth with milk and honey; and they shall have eaten and filled themselves, and waxen fat; then will they turn unto other gods, and serve them, and provoke me, and break my covenant.

Isaiah 33:8 The highways lie waste, the wayfaring man ceaseth: he hath broken the covenant, he hath despised the cities, he regardeth no man.

Jeremiah 11:10 They are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers, which refused to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them: the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers.

Jeremiah 33:20 Thus saith the Lord; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers

Ezekiel 16:59 For thus saith the Lord God; I will even deal with thee as thou hast done, which hast despised the oath in breaking the covenant.

Ezekiel 17:15 But he rebelled against him in sending his ambassadors into Egypt, that they might give him horses and much people. Shall he prosper? shall he escape that doeth such things? or shall he break the covenant, and be delivered?—18Seeing he despised the oath by breaking the covenant, when, lo, he had given his hand, and hath done all these things, he shall not escape.19 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; As I live, surely mine oath that he hath despised, and my covenant that he hath broken, even it will I recompense upon his own head.

Ezekiel 44:7 In that ye have brought into my sanctuary strangers, uncircumcised in heart, and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in my sanctuary, to pollute it, even my house, when ye offer my bread, the fat and the blood, and they have broken my covenant because of all your abominations.

Judges 2:1 And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.

The KJV doesn’t describe God’s covenants as ”eternal” covenants, but rather as ”everlasting” covenants (16 times in KJV), and this is a translation from the Hebrew word ”olam”, which apart from ”eternal” can mean ”forever”, and many compound this with the phrase ”throughout their generations”.

Olam doesn’t mean ”continually in force throughout infinite time, no matter what happens to the world” and nor is it irreversible or something God cannot put to an end, should conditions change as to warrant such a change.

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The KJV doesn’t describe God’s covenants as ”eternal” covenants, but rather as ”everlasting” covenants (16 times in KJV), and this is a translation from the Hebrew word ”olam”, which apart from ”eternal” can mean ”forever”, and many compound this with the phrase ”throughout their generations”."

Which Genesis 17:7-8 uses which you did not read it now did you? Otherwise, you wouldn't be telling me what I already know, what the KJV says.

Now suppose you're correct, that "Everlasting" doesn't always mean "forever" or "... continually in force no matter what happens"; does that mean damnation is not forever, either?

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:"
- Matthew 25:41

Nor is, eternal life?

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
- John 3:16

You are trying to play a game of semantics when you know that the word "Forever" and "Everlasting" means the same thing. If the two are really different then you ought to show me examples of how the words are used differently as words are defined by the context used.

And you know what? The word "Forever", is also the Hebrew word: Olam:

"Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated, so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations."
- Isaiah 60:15

See the following interlinear:
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/isa/60/15/p0/t_conc_739015

"Seems you don't understand the basic meaning of the word COVENANT. You're not smart enough to do this."

You say that, but have not even defined that is for me; - nor - have you showed HOW I've had no understanding what the covenant is.

Now below you're showing me that the Jews have broken their covenant with God. Well done, you've finally presented scripture. However, you haven't shown me that God will break His covenant with them... for ever.

Now if you deny that, then you haven't read the entire Old Testament (Psalm 106 being the taste of it),and also ignoring Romans 11:1-4 & 11-12:

1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
...
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

Now in case you would claim that they'll never return:

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
- Romans 11:25-28

Finally, if you think we should hate and treat them as enemies for their continued unbelief and sin:

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
- Matthew 5:44

32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
- 1 Corinthians 10:32

Nutjob. Learn English and Critical Thinking.

WHAT IS CONSPIRACY THEORIES?

Conspiracy theories of this kind, whether it be Vatican Conspiracy, Jewish/Khazarian/Zionist Conspiracy, and New World Order/Illuminati, NASA/Flat Earth, UFO, etc., etc., etc., are the original Fake News in history.

Conspiracy theory is a narrative founded on speculation supported/re-enforced by more speculation, rooted in hearsays.

For example, the JFK assassination

1. An unlikely rapidity of impeccably accurate shots
2. Magic bullet
3. Sound said to have come from the grassy knoll
4. Unknown figures behind fences

When

1. It is possible to shoot that well even with a Carcano bolt action rifle
2. Yes, it could mean that there were multiple shooters, but it can also mean that the lone assassin fired multiple shots. The first round hits Pres. Kennedy, and the second through President's neck and into Gov. Connelly.
3. Sounds do bounce from buildings which is why we call it an "Echo"
4. There are people everywhere, of course you see someone in the shadows. Witnesses and eye witnesses are not always reliable

Unanswered questions are often exploited by peddlers of, as "The government is covering it up" when the government may not have the answers to itself.

And when someone doubts the story "Well, you know, we can never trust government". Governments should, of course, not always be trusted but that is an argumentative fallacy called Ad Hominem Circumstantial.

And people, believe this irrationality.

THE MODEL OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

The first conspiracy theory as you already know, if you've read the meme, is Jewish/Zionist Conspiracy. In it, the Jews are alleged to be the source and cause of suffering as they secretly caused famine, wars, diseases, etc. At the same time, has infiltrated the media, governmental agencies, and banks - everywhere - as they aspire to take over the world.

This is the narrative that has been the model for every other conspiracy theories

The tragic thing of all this is that millions of Jews have been horribly mistreated because of it. They were made to wear identifying symbols, heavily taxed and discriminated against, and herded into ghettoes.

At times, they've experienced what's called Pogroms - mass murder - by the host people. The Holocaust is hardly the first instances of homicidal ethnic cleansing in history. For example, when the Black Death hit Europe the Jews were blamed for it, and many were murdered because it as retribution for what they've allegedly have done.