george washington

White europeans where not enslaved and forced to work, their families weren't separated, their home cultural identity wasn't wiped out, and they weren't treated like animals.

Be thankful you don't have a Juneteenth.

And the Irish were never enslaved in America. They were brought over as Indentured servants. Yes, this was crap but it came with legal protections and contracts. There was a finite time of service. There were specific monetary rewards at the end. and the VERY IMPORTANT PART that servitude wasn't passed on to their children.

I didn't say that their experience was equal in evil to the enslaved blacks, I'm saying that Indentured Servitude, is. And, if you read my writing I was careful in differentiating them.

Here is my source for it: http://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/feature/indentured-servants-in-the-us/#:~:text=Indentured%20servants%20first%20arrived%20in%20America%20in%20the,for%2C%20but%20no%20one%20to%20care%20for%20it.

Wow, the Europeans didn't capture their own and sell them to Arab or Jewish slavers? Sounds pretty smart of them.

Slavery hasn't been passed on to Black people for over 150 years. Except for in Africa. Go shame the descendents of the Africans that sold the slaves. Oh wait, you'd never do that. To you Black people are entirely innocent of any wrongdoing and have never done nothin'. Even high Black crime rates are a result of White racism to you, I'm sure.

Going deep for that What-About-ism, huh?

Sure you don't want to go back to Rome? You could go all the way back there. See if that helps your non-case.

Yep. Or, for that matter, ancient Egypt and Exodus.

Actually slavery continued in America well into the 20th century. There was a steady supply of poor black men wrongly arrested and wrongly convicted of trumped-up charges and sentenced to long terms on prison chain gangs. It was a standard practice in the South.

Right? Like what do they think happened after the war ended?

Things were...fine? Everyone went home and treated each other as equals?

This is so much bullshit.
Juneteenth is a holiday that has been celebrated for decades in Texas.
The DNC and the MEDIA just recently discovered it and have been trying to capitalize on it ever since. Virtue signaling by politicians and media w**res.

Is anyone else tired of the nonstop obsession with race?

OK...let's use "media bimbos", for f**k's sake

I definitely agree with you on that. Politicians like Joe Biden are simply Virtue Signaling, to keep the African American vote. And yes, I for one am tired with this obsession of race.

To me personally, the holiday is good but somewhat redundant if it only celebrates the riddance of Black slavery.

After all, we already have a Black History month in which we do learn about their past which certainly includes slavery. So, why this holiday? Why only the celebration of the cessation of slavery and not celebrate the other? That is, Indentured Servitude which practically enslaved Whites, mainly, the Irish people?

The Irish and other Europeans have first been enslaved since the beginning of American colonial period from the 1600's to the late 1700's. Some came voluntarily with the understanding that there will be lodging and food, but others were kidnapped. It lasted longer than Black slavery, and the conditions and life as were just as harsh and punishment very severe.

Obviously, there are clear differences between indentured Servitude and Black slavery as the latter had term limits of four to seven years and Black slavery was a lifetime.

Black slavery gradually replaced Indentured Servitude for a number of reasons:

1. It is easier to identify and find runaway Blacks than Whites who can easily blend into the populace
2. Freed Indentured Servants had rights, while denying rights to Blacks makes their labor cheaper
3. A lifetime of forced servitude is economically sensible as they can raise children into that state.

To be clear, I am not totally against the holiday, but since we have all other holidays for Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, and Women (Middle Eastern peoples are relatively new in comparison to those already mentioned). And, yes, it is only a day and not a month. Nevertheless, we're recognizing everyone... but Whites.

So, why not have one???

Because of the points you laid out; their cultural identity wasn't stripped from them, they weren't forced to labor for no pay, their families weren't forcibly serperated, they weren't sold, they weren't hunted and killed, and that status wasn't passed on to their children.

Be thankful you don't need a holiday to mark your release from Hell on Earth.

Again, I did not say that the experiences of both ethnic groups are the same. Please, re-read my post and you will see how careful I was there.

I did.

I read it several times.

I understand your parsing of the two.

But more importantly I understand your intent behind it.

Yes, the Irish and many other did suffer with indentured servitude.

But that suffering was short lived and did not economically disadvantage their descendants to this day. You said this as well.

And again, the Irish were not enslaved in America. At any time. An entire economy wasn't built on their forced labor. And a war wasn't fought over it.

Their freedom wasn't delayed to accommodate the cotton season. Yeah, that's right. The war ended, they were freed, but no one told them right away so the white dudes could get at least 1 more round of free work and all the profit out of them.

The scale and duration (from your source 1607 to 1661 when Virigina and Massacheusets passed their slave laws) are not the same. Anywhere near it.

As I said, and apparently you missed, From Your Own Points- there is no need for White People Day.

Oh, yes. The Irish suffered no discrimination AT ALL that may have hindered their ability to procure wealth.

Entire economy based off forced labor! XDXDXD

You are such a virtue signalling phony.

The Irish aren't bitching and moaning to this day either.

Arguably, the economy is build on Indentured Servitude as the South did not have the industrial capacity as the North does. The North did not have suitable lands for farming as the South, so either way, Southern economy is dependent on servants and slaves.

"Their freedom wasn't delayed to accommodate the cotton season. Yeah, that's right. The war ended, they were freed, but no one told them right away so the white dudes could get at least 1 more round of free work and all the profit out of them."

I think you are again arguing that I am equalizing the two. Let me repeat, I never said that they were the same in every way. I've already said that unlike Slaves the Indentured Servants had term limits did I not?

"The scale and duration (from your source 1607 to 1661 when Virigina and Massacheusets passed their slave laws) are not the same. Anywhere near it."

Again, I did not say that they were the same.

"As I said, and apparently you missed, From Your Own Points- there is no need for White People Day."

I agree, in fact, we should not have any... holidays and history months in relations to ethnicity. We are all Americans and that ought to be enough.

It is not to say that we should avoid history; just as we should continue to learn about the Holocaust, as well as Slavery, Jim Crow, etc, so that history would not repeat itself. But all these celebrations simply serves to divide us as Americans by creating perpetual distinctions rather than assimilation.

So if the politicians and their think-tanks insist on celebrating diversity... then they should allow for all to be celebrated... INCLUDING... White people.

So what if it is needed or not.

Now if they refuse to do that, then they are hypocrites, period.

But then again, it is a Maxist thing to do. Please watch the following video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZwli4WdZmI

I'm gonna lay this out so other people can understand what you're doing.

Here's how your BS works:

I'm not saying indentured servitude is the same as slavery buuuuuut....

I'm not saying that we shouldn't acknowledge our past buuuuut...

I'm not saying white people should have their own holiday buuuuut...

Wow....

Either that you are so hung up on my equating of Indentured Servitude with Slavery regardless of what measure, or, you're trying to shame and embarrass me into not making any similarity at all.

whistlelock, while I did say that that both were equal in harshness I was very clear in differentiating the two.

Now if you still disagree, then show me... how I equated the two beyond facts.

Look at my writing and show me where I said that the two are equal in terms of duration, legal rights, punishment, etc.

Show me that, and if you do not, then I know your true intent and so does everyone here.

Well, we already have July 4th, so why bother with all the other holidays? And I mean ALL of them - Memorial, Veterans, Presidents, Thanksgiving, Christmas - the whole kit, isn't that all celebrated in Independence anyway?

Hey, look! Another slimy lib attacking Christmas. What. An. Absolute. Shock.

So, you're saying that to spotlight one holiday and say that's enough is an attack on the other holidays?

K, take that up with the OP, that's the one you're arguing with.

No, I'm saying you hate religion. If it's Christianity.

Take it up with the OP.

Antithesis... those are a celebration of the European ethnicity simply because they were made by Europeans?

With respect, I don't think you're being intellectually honest unless you are so sick of White people, that anything that came from them, is.

What are you talking about? We have July 4th and that's all we need as Americans. Right? Our heritage is our freedom. We already have that day so the other days are unnecessary.

Don't just tell me that it is, tell me how... the 4th of July specifically celebrates the European ethnicity.

Is there some reason that's not obvious? It's literally the celebration of the war we had with our British colonizers.

Did you not know that or are you just trying to be difficult?

In other words, you don't have an answer, but merely complaining about my premise.

Yes, Sherlock Holmes, that was my intention. To highlight a major problem with your premise.

Friend, if you're going to continue doing this, I suggest you go out more. Have a life. There is no point in throwing any more fodder.

Out.

Not your friend, and there's still a major problem with your premise.

I think you will always have a major problem with my premise.

And I have you an answer. War against British colonizers. Do you not know what that means?