Yes, I know conservatives probably say things that baffle leftists but that because leftists are easy to baffle.

Most of us so called conservatives were liberal back in the bad days of Bush. Turns out control freaks are merely creations of being a part of a tribe instead of a product unique to either side.

I like the Libertarian party slogan, "We want to take over the world and then leave everyone alone." That is my kind of control freak. I want to control the people who want to control me and make them stop trying to control you, me and everyone else.

I blame it on my windmill cancer. I wanna buy Greenland!

You started off reasonable...but nah. The right is far crazier than the left. And if you didn't have us beat on content, you definitely beat us on numbers.

How many people on the right are inventing new genders when common sense and science say there are only 2?

How many people on the right have been rioting, burning down buildings and looting all across America almost non-stop for a year?

How many red states are suffering economically and are seeing the rates of COVID-19 cases as the blue states?

How many people on the right want to ban a type of firearm that is very rarely used in the commission of a crime?

How many people on the right believe that the best possible living condition is when the government controls the means of production and takes all private property rights away from individuals?

How many conservative governors sent COVID-19 patients to convalescent homes knowing full well that COVID-19 affected the elderly the most severely and in doing so murdered thousands of elderly people?

How many people on the right give rely heavily on 50 year old medical science that says an embryo is not a human being just so that child can be murdered for being an inconvenience to the parent or parents?

How many people on the right are telling people to be "less white" or "less" any race?

How many people on the right see skin color, and not training and skill, as the only reason to hire or not hire someone? How many people on the right care about skin color at all?

How many people on the right have come up with and force schools to teach white children that they are what's wrong with the world?

How many people on the right are saying that white people have some sort of "privilege" that blacks don't.

How many people on the right are saying that it is perfectly acceptable for a pedophiles to claim they identify as women so they can enter women's public restrooms? And you can't question them to find out if they are a pedophile because you might offend someone who really is suffering from gender dysphoria. Oh and by the way, all of those "bathroom" bills that allowed people with gender dysphoria to enter their preferred restroom rather than their biological restroom applies to public locker rooms and public showers. The left tries to hide that fact because they know that some high boys and pedophiles will say anything to get into the girls locker room.

And I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on but I just don't feel like typing until I run out of room in this reply and the next reply and then eventually run out of replies.

The difference between gender and sex is science. On sex and there only being 2; what are intersex? What category do they call in? non-human?

Rioting - people protesting for racial justice - yes there were riots that came out it. How many noon filled protests has the right had about the election? Out did you jump straight to treason? How many cops did BLM murder in an attempt to frame the boogaloo Bois? How many governors did they plot to kidnap?

COVID-19 - Looking deaths per 1 million population, there seems to be a spread across the political spectrum. It hit blue states first, but at this point it's evened out. Economic impact - cities rely on tourism and services. They have been hit harder by COVID-19. So I'll give you impact but dispute the cause.

Assault rifle ban - used in fewer crimes, but the incidents are more deadly when used. https://kdvr.com/news/boulder-grocery-store-shooting/assault-weapons-are-one-third-as-common-but-twice-as-deadly-as-handguns-in-mass-shootings/

Socialism - I don't know anyone who wants the government to own the means of production.

Nursing home - only Cuomo - that was a bad decision

Abortion - unlike wearing a mask, being pregnant can be deadly. I don't think you can force a woman to do that anymore than I would support forced vaccines. Science?

be less white - a dumb phrase, but the definition of what they said that meant in the sides was solid. Be less arrogant, listen, believe, break with white solidarity. Dumb way of saying it, but good advice.

Skin color - affirmative action doesn't mean hiring just for skin color. Right care about skin color. Nobody is fooled by the color blind thing. Had any president other than Obama been asked for his birth certificate?

White privilege is a thing. Teaching kids to recognize it isn't a problem.

Trans - is should be super easy to provide me with all those cases where it is happening then. Except is not. Why is that, do you think?

"Nursing home - only Cuomo - that was a bad decision"

Nope the governors of New Jersey and Massachusetts did the exact same thing. But to just brush it off like it was just Cuomo is disgusting. 10's of thousands of elderly were murdered by those governors.

"Abortion - unlike wearing a mask, being pregnant can be deadly. I don't think you can force a woman to do that anymore than I would support forced vaccines. Science?"

And thus the common myth argument the left always throws at those opposed to murdering babies. The facts are these. Endangerment to the mother's health as a reason for an abortion is extremely rare. The vast majority of abortions are performed because the baby is an inconvenience. Secondly, any doctor who worth anything will tell you that IF the baby it endangering the mother's life the best way to prevent any health risk to the mother is to deliver the baby. Killing the baby still requires that the baby is delivered which if that baby was a risk while it was alive than certainly it is just as much a risks being dead. Any doctor who recommends aborting a baby to save a mother is just cruel.

"Be less arrogant, listen, believe, break with white solidarity."

So white people are all arrogant? Are there no black people who are arrogant? What exactly is "white solidarity"? Where do you see white people forming "solidarity" groups? Your defense of this nonsense makes you just as loony as the rest of the leftists.

There is no "white solidarity". Arrogant people can be found within any race.

"Right care about skin color."

Nope. We do not. In a situation where a person is applying for a job the ONLY qualification is are the qualified. Skin color is utterly irrelevant. Why? Because skin color is just an external feature. Just like hair and eye color. None of which mean squat about a person's ability to perform a task.

The left is obsessed with a person's skin color. If they are white, just as you pointed out we are all arrogant. If they are black then they are oppressed by white arrogance. However, this is just a variation on a theme proposed by Marx. Instead of the bourgeoisie oppressing the proletariat, it is now the whites oppressing the blacks. The division must happen in order for Marxism to gain a foot hold.

"White privilege is a thing."

It is just part of the Marxist divide and conquer. There is no such thing as "white privilege". Teaching white kids that they are the root of all evil is NOT a good thing.

"New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Michigan required nursing homes to admit COVID-19 patients to their vulnerable populations, often without adequate testing. "

Massachusetts had republican governor... They apparently had dedicated nursing homes for COVID-19 patients.

Murdered... No. For that you'd have to establish intent. Most of these decisions were made early on, and at a time when many Red states weren't even thinking about shutting down.

I'll admit to ignorance on all the details here, but still think Cuomo stands out for trying to cover it up. I try not to judge people on the front lines for decisions they make, but covering it up is a violation of trust. And yes that applies to police. Mistakes can be made, but bodycams are often not available after those incidents. Things like that bother me more.

Most abortions happen before the child is viable. Most states (all?) have laws that prevent full term abortions except as medically necessary. Women sure during pregnancy and delivery. It's a fact. That risk, small though it might be, means it's the mother's decision in concert with a doctor. Same as the decision to pull the plug if a child was on life support or the decision of the parent to choose not to give her child a vaccine.

The fact that you see people of all colors marching with BLM and assume that it is anti-white is white solidarity. There are so many examples... How can you throw up stats on black crime and then claim color isn't seen?

Skin color = Marxism. 🤣 Sorry but no. Fantasy.

No race is the root of all evil. The majority have an advantage. The majority in the us is white. Stop trying to make that more than it is. Acknowledging that advantage and the related disadvantage others have is just reality.

I thought it was Massachusetts but I guess I was wrong. It was Pennsylvania and Michigan instead.

"Murdered... No. For that you'd have to establish intent." How about the intent was to reduce the state budget spent on keeping up the elderly so that that money could be spent on something the governors thought was more important. In Cuomo's case it could have been that plus the fact that he is a psychopath who got a thrill out of it.

"Most abortions happen before the child is viable." So human life has a value to it? That makes you an eugenicist.

"The fact that you see people of all colors marching with BLM" Maybe I should have been clearer but I am fully aware of that. Everyone knows that those riots were done from people of all races, including white people. Most conservatives have been saying all along that those riots were all planned by white leftists and not blacks.

"Skin color = Marxism. 🤣 Sorry but no. Fantasy. " You're right, it is a fantasy and I never said anything like that. Nor did I say race is the root of all evil but Critical Race Theory does. Leftists are teaching our children in public schools that the white race is the root of all evil.

You sure are comfortable assuming malice. I said viable not valuable - viable as in capable of surviving in their own.

As for the rest... you did say people were using race to replace social status on Marxism.

Nobody is teaching anyone that race is the root of evil. That isn’t what crt is.

So we can kill all humans who are not capable of surviving on their own. That is a whole lot more than just embryos and fetuses. So at what age is a human capable of surviving on their own? 5 years old? 10 years old? 18 years old?

"you did say people were using race to replace social status on Marxism" Yes I most certainly did. I said THE LEFT is using race to divide and conquer. Critical Theory used class but its new variation, Critical Race Theory, uses race. The right didn't create these theories, the left did. The left is all about divide and conquer.

What I said is a whole lot different than just trying to sum it up by saying, "Skin color = Marxism".

"Nobody is teaching anyone that race is the root of evil. That isn’t what crt is." Then explain to me what CRT means to you? Tell me how different it is from its source theory, i.e. Critical Theory. Because I think the only difference is the same difference between "Liberation Theology" that Che Guevara and others pushed into some Catholic churches in Central and South America and "Black Liberation Theology" that was pushed into black protestant churches in the US.

Pretending not to understand what words mean is getting to be a habit - viable means they would survive birth. Usually viability is considered to be 24 weeks.

CRT is a method of examining the law and how it interacts with race. It teaches you to look at laws that appear fair on the surface and to see if they affect others in unexpected or unfair ways.

It is the left and only the left that is obsessed with race. It is a part of every policy they impose on the people. If you oppose ANY policy the left imposes then you are automatically and irrationally called a racist. Because EVERYTHING on the left revolves around skin color. It is the most bizarre and insane approach to politics ever devised. To base your entire philosophy on one external feature of people.

Seriously, you could easily replace skin color with nose size and it would be no different because none of you are concerned with the "content" of ones "character". The only thing that matters as far as character is concerned to the left is are they also a leftist. Because if a person is black and a conservative then they do not exist to the left.

Nope. Only when you straw man the arguments. But I'll look at was big nose example if you have one.

Wikipedia says this:

"Critical race theory is loosely unified by two common themes: first, that white supremacy, with its societal or structural racism, exists and maintains power through the law; and second, that transforming the relationship between law and racial power, and also achieving racial emancipation and anti-subordination more broadly, is possible.

Critics of critical race theory argue that it relies on social constructionism, elevates storytelling over evidence and reason, rejects the concepts of truth and merit, and opposes liberalism"

The last sentences says it "opposes liberalism". They are talking about classical liberalism or what is today called conservatism. It is directly in opposition to "free markets, free trade, limited government and individual liberty" (also Wikipedia).

It and Critical Legal Studies are "rooted" on Critical Theory.

Wikipedia: "Critical theory is a Marxist approach to social philosophy that focuses on reflective assessment and critique of society and culture in order to reveal and challenge power structures."

Critical theory challenges the social class structure or in other words it pits the poor against the rich. Critical Race Theory changes that to make white supremacy the "rich" and blacks the "poor".

Like I said it thrives on division. Dividing the poor against the rich and blacks against whites. This is exactly why you and every other left leaning person on ImgFlip and anywhere else are convinced that white supremacy is a conservative construct. No matter how many times I or anyone else tells you (the generic you, not you specifically) that conservatism has nothing to do with white supremacy or even race the left will not accept that.

It is very simple. Just like Wikipedia's definition of liberalism said the core of what conservatives believe is free markets, free trade, limited government and individual liberty. All of that applies equally to everyone regardless of race, ethnicity, social standing, religion, lack of religion, etc.

I don't think that conservatives are white Supremacists. But I do think most white supremacists are conservative.

The rats fled to you because nationalism is compatible with supremacy in a way that internationalism and globalism aren't. It isn't the fault of conservatives they set up camp on your side. You don't get to pick whether someone is conservative it not. The pro blem is most seem to be in denial about it and aren't on guard. That's bad because they've gotten sneaky about how they package their bs. They don't say whites are better than Mexicans, instead they spread fears about them coming to take your country. They try to frame every attempt to stop racism as an attack on white people. They flipped the script and now it's like a virus that's mutated - all the defenses you have against old school racism aren't recognizing this new variant. You should look up some of the anti Jew tropes in WWII. The international Jew for instance. They have dusted off all the old tropes about an international cabal of Jews trying to destroy Germany/America and just either replaced Jew with liberal or Muslim, and you don't see it. Propoganda is effective, that's why it's used and it's spreading.

Do you deny that there is a history of laws that have suppressed minorities? Jim Crow for instance. Many of the worst of those laws have been removed, but you don't just stop oppressing someone and immediately assume that that makes things equal. For one thing, some people actively try to stop the changes for the better. As far as critical theory... Whatever. I lost your the minute they said Marxist. It still isn't what you say it is. You skipped the criticism that they don't have a plan to fix the issues they identify - they aren't pushing fit Marxism, they are analyzing society for class structures.

It is less scientific than I prefer, but it isn't the brain washing you seem to think it is.

Those born with both sets of genitalia are human. I am not sure why you would ask that question. Intersex people are not the same as people who invent their own gender. For one their condition is real and not a fantasy. The intersex generally choose the be the gender they most appear to be like.

"Rioting - people protesting for racial justice"

BLM (the people not the organization) were fighting against racial injustice but Antifa and BLM (the organization) were not. They were using racial justice to foment a weak an ineffectual communist revolution. Where did I mention treason? Fighting against the Constitution would be an act of treason and Marxism is in direct opposition to the Constitution. The Constitution created the freest nation to have ever existed and Marxism is responsible for 100 million murders.

"So I'll give you impact but dispute the cause."

How can you not see the cause. It is as clear a the light of day. Blue cities and/or states had the most draconian edicts against businesses and churches. Red cities and/or states had the most passive policies. Blue cities and/or states are suffering big time under their own economy downturn while red cities and/or states are not.

"Assault rifle ban - used in fewer crimes, but the incidents are more deadly when used."

That is just wrong for multiple reasons. The AR-15 fires either the .223 caliber bullet or the 5.56×45mm NATO round. Those two rounds are essentially the same bullet. The cartridge is slightly different in shape so that if you by an AR-15 you need to which round it fires. Some AR's are designed to fire either.

The 5.56×45mm NATO round was recommended for combat by NATO for one specific reason. Fewer soldiers would go home in body bags. Prior to that soldiers were firing .30, .30-06 rounds (in the M1 Garand) or 7.62×51mm NATO or .308 (in the M14) which are much, much deadlier.

The AR-15 was never used in the military but a similar rifle is, the M16, is used. The difference is that the M16 was designed specifically for combat and has select fire where it can be fired as a fully automatic or a semi-automatic. The AR-15 was never designed for combat. It is a recreational gun designed for either hunting small game or putting holes in paper targets.

So any claim that the AR-15 is more deadly than a .45 caliber handgun is absurd. The AR-15 fires a round that is only .003 of an inch bigger in diameter than a .22 caliber, a kids gun.

So intersex get to choose their sex and gender. Cool. Then conditionally, both are flexible.

BLM communism - of that was the plan it was a plan nobody was in on and I didn't work. Just more excuses not to listen. Also, calling people more effected by poverty of being Marxists because they think social programs are a good idea is a dividing tactic. It would be better to sell common ground and compromise.

Blue cities with more of the most impacted industries and with more population density. Cities trend blue, population density required more strict measures than areas where people are less crammed together. This is obvious.

I don't know the reason they are more deadly, just that the number of deaths is higher when they are used. I would assume it is a matter of magazine size and rate of fire more than caliber, but it could be something else.

"So intersex get to choose their sex and gender." I guess so. I have no experience with having ever knowing someone born with both reproductive organs. I imagine that even those people are predominately one gender or another and they would live their lives as that predominate gender. It would make it easier when buying clothes and participating in sports.

However, that is no justification for someone who has invented a new gender and then demands that everyone refer to them by that new made up gender. That is just a fantasy. I am not required to live in their fantasy world therefore I should not be made to refer to them by their made up gender.

"Blue cities with more of the most impacted industries and with more population density." I have always wondered why when more people are crammed into a smaller area causes people to vote Democrat. Perhaps mankind was never meant to live so densely packed because if they do they lose their will to live free. They want more and more from the government and are willing to give up their freedom to get it.

That explains why blue cities were very compliant to the strict pandemic rules that were imposed on them. Democrats love to be told what to do and how to live their lives.

"I don't know the reason they are more deadly, just that the number of deaths is higher when they are used." Rate of fire is one consideration but all semi-automatics essentially have the same rate of fire because they all use the same technology to make them semi-automatic. That includes handguns.

The .223 caliber and 5.56×45mm NATO round can kill people just like a .22 can kill a person but the person firing the weapon has to be precise and accurate to hit those targets on the body. When adrenaline is flowing in a person their accuracy goes way down, way down. Police train to overcome that but even so they only are about 25% accurate in hitting the kill spot. This is why cops fire center mass first rather than a head shot. Center mass is the largest part of the body and easier to hit.

I don't understand the mentality of a mass shooter so I don't know if adrenaline is being pumped through their bodies would affect their accuracy. But who knows. Perhaps they are calm when doing that.

Even so most mass shooters use handguns or shotguns. Rarely do they use a rifle, let alone an AR-15.

Regardless nothing justifies the banning of them unless you ban everything else with a higher kill rate, which would include hands & feet.

Population density - liberal - cities have more diversity. It’s hard to think about people as other when you know them. It’s the same reason college educated people trend liberal. It isn’t brainwashing by professors. It’s just exposue. Lines break down. It’s harder to see Muslims, gays, etc. as other when you know them. As far as wanting more from the government - the number of people who fall through the cracks becomes more apparent in a city. We want Stronger safety nets for that reason.

Do what you want with gender. It means what it means. You can pretend not to understand. It makes little difference.

Guns- an assault rifle ban isn’t one if my key issues. I don’t consider the blocking of assault rifles any more invasive than blocking rocket launchers or other arms.

Q anon - the democrats are pedophiles and cannibals using wayfare to sell children

Barack Obama is a Muslim and his birth certificate is fake

Climate science is 90+ percent liars

Medical science is 90+ percent liars

The election was stolen and despite having control of the DOJ and loyal followers throughout the country it couldn't be proven

Massive voter fraud is the norm, but no evidence has been found (there is some fraud, but not enough to change things). No expose showing how easy it is, or staking out polling places to prove it.

It was a perfect call

Public health = tyranny

The media is not just biased but actively lying to the American people

Cops kicked in Brionna Taylor's door and her boyfriend fired on them knowing they were the cops even though neither of them were wanted and nothing illegal was found in the apartment

George Soros is paying protesters but nobody has been able to go undercover and prove it and nobody who has been paid has defected

Boogaloo

each mass shooting is a false-flag attack

Jewish space lasers

Plots to kidnap governors

"Q anon - the democrats are pedophiles and cannibals using wayfare to sell children"

That is Q anon. That is not the conservatives. The only reason why I have ever heard of Q anon is because the left uses them as straw men for all conservatives.

I don't know if it was Democrats but there have been been actual cases where sex trafficking has happened through Amazon without Amazon knowing about it. Perhaps they use Wayfair as well. Who ever those sex traffickers are I really do not care what their political leanings are, they should all be burned at the stake.

"Climate science is 90+ percent liars"

Wrong. UN, and US Government paid "scientists" were told to find a specific set of results and not to use the scientific method. It was leaked in emails several years ago that the Climate Research Unit at Cambridge University faked data. This information was not leaked once but two different times.

But the most clear evidence is that the earth is just not cooperating with the Global Warm... oops Climate Change "scientists". We were told that the hottest year in recent times was in 1997 and that it was only going to get hotter from there. I was told that I would no longer have to shovel snow from my driveway 10 or 15 years ago. I am still waiting.

Every time a glacier recedes in one spot all of the climate change experts are there to film it and talk about it. Yet on other parts of Greenland, Iceland, the Antarctic or where ever that glacier receded there was another once expanding somewhere else.

Have you ever asked yourself why is the ONLY solution to climate change, Marxism? How is taking complete control over everyone's lives going to save the planet? Is living on your knees really that much better than dying on your feet?

"Medical science is 90+ percent liars"

Complete and utter nonsense.

"The election was stolen and despite having control of the DOJ and loyal followers throughout the country it couldn't be proven"

That means nothing. A whole lot of data came out AFTER Trump was no longer in office. It was not Trump's DOJ anymore when the most comprehensive proof came out. Biden may be senile but even though he doesn't know where he is half the time, he is not about to let any knew evidence jeopardize his fake presidency.

Tons and tons of evidence of voter fraud has been found if you weren't so afraid to look at it.

I didn’t say all conservatives - were you blaming all liberals for your list? While the majority of Q beliefs aren’t mainstream.l, you’ve got some proponents actually in congress - so they are either more prevalent or tolerated.

Amazon sex trafficking - never heard of that, but regardless, somebody using the marketplace to do something is not the same as thinking the company itself is doing something.

Climate change - wherever you think they were paid to lie or did it on their own, you think they lied. Marxism? Why would Marxism have anything to do with going green? Add that to my list of crazy. So it’s been leaked, the truth is out there, but scientists are still lying? Nope.

Medical science - marks don’t work and numbers are exaggerated - cause of death is determined locally, not by the CDC, so yes, to believe that you have to think doctors across the board are lying. Plus anti vaxxers

So Trump knew there was going to be fraud but didn’t do anything to stake out and get proof? There are certification deadlines. He had time. The az audit isn’t going to find anything.

Afraid to look - I’m not. I’m not scared of monsters under beds or a mask suffocating me, or many other things that aren’t real. I keep getting told I just want to ignore evidence, but I’ve looked into and easily debunked everything I’ve been shown. I’ll look at more because I don’t like the idea of being lied to.

I’ve been convinced of the China lab leak based on a written piece - I do accept new evidence. I don’t think it’s the kind of conspiracy I’m sure conservatives will think it is.

"I didn’t say all conservatives - were you blaming all liberals for your list?"

Not exactly. Refer to the meme. I realize that there is a difference between a liberal and a leftist. Liberals have some common sense and ability to reason even if they march lockstep with the leftists. Leftists lack common sense and reason. They follow like sheep, their socialist overlords. My meme was about how difficult it is for liberals to constantly be apologists for their leftist counterparts.

"Amazon sex trafficking - never heard of that"

I saw it on the news several months ago. It had nothing to do with politics or any party. It was all about sex traffickers who listed products on Amazon at insanely exorbitant prices. That was the signal that this product was not a toaster or whatever but a sex slave. I believe Amazon around this same time did their own investigations and shut them all down or at least I hope they did.

"Climate change - wherever you think they were paid to lie or did it on their own"

I do not trust any government and I never will. They have employed scientists, economists, statisticians, etc to fabricate whatever result they want. Climate science was invented by the UN and other world governments.

I told you how it ties in to Marxism. When you look at the only solutions they are proposing to save the planet it is always complete control over the lives of the people. That and cow farts.

This is what the Green New Deal, Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 are all about. Even the World Economic Forum's Great Reset is centered around climate change. Not really sure what collapsing the global economy has to do with saving the planet other than causing mass starvation around the world so that there will be fewer people exhaling CO2, fewer cars and fewer factories. Plus it is much easier to control a smaller number of people.

"Medical science - marks don’t work and numbers are exaggerated"

Masks don't work. That is a fact that even Fauci knew. Masks have been compared to putting up a chain link fence to keep mosquitos out. There were many places that had strict mask mandates and saw higher infection rates than similar populations without strict mask requirements. However, the reverse of that has also happened. I still wore a mask where ever it was required. And even though I have very little faith in the ability to produce a vaccine in this short amount of time, I still got the vaccination.

The difference between liberals and leftists - they are just labels. I believe what I believe. Apologizing for leftists - most everything you have called leftist is crazy stuff that isn’t actually happening.

Marxism isn’t the only solution that proposed. The free market can and should compete on green technology development. The free market is good for innovation. The green new deal does suggest putting money into providing training/education to people in industries that are going to be negatively affected. The idea being to move them to green jobs.

Most climate science that isn’t in agreement with climate change is funded by fossil fuels. Everything else whether it be from schools, grants, or the government is in agreement.

Crashing the economy - the economy can adapt. That’s the whole point of the market. Such distrust the whole world is involved... the simpler solution is more likely.

Fauci didn’t say masks didn’t work- he said they would do very little good if worn by healthy people. But that was in February. Before we realized how much transmission was from asymptotic people. He explained the change when the guidance was revised.

"The free market can and should compete on green technology development." You don't think they are trying?? I read a couple or more years ago about some people in the SF Bay Area who has genetically modified a bacteria that poops refined oil. It isn't gasoline but it is refined to the point that it wouldn't take much to turn it to gasoline. It was estimated that in order to meet the demand of the United States it would take enough bacteria to fill an area the size of Chicago.

Wind and solar energy was created by the free market but then became heavily subsidized by the government. Nuclear and hydroelectric energy are also green renewable forms of energy.

If you go to the UN's website and read up on Agenda 2030 you will see 17 proposals that were written in a way to make the left feel all warm and fuzzy inside. But then when you realize that the only way to accomplish those 17 goals it gets scary.

When the UN first built their Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 websites they explained that in order to save the planet they need to control how many families will live in 1 house. How far away from home you can work, where you will work. How far you can go on vacation and how often. But they took that down real fast. It all came back in AOC's Green New Deal.

"Most climate science that isn’t in agreement with climate change is funded by fossil fuels." The problem with that concept is that whenever any climatologist disagrees with the government they are labeled as being employed by big oil to discredit them. The problem is that of all of the scientists that I have read about who disagree with government "science" NONE of them got a dime from any oil company. It is just a smear tactic.

In addition, I used to work for Chevron (no, not pumping gas - although I did do that for Chevron when I was in my early 20's and in college). Chevron is spending billions of dollars to be the first oil company that creates a green renewable type of energy that is just as profitable for them as oil is and works just as efficiently as gasoline does for the consumer.

I cannot speak for all oil companies but I don't think they were wasting money on trying to influence scientists. Instead they are spending money so that they don't go the way of the buggy whip.

Buggy whip is a good example. Green is where things are going. Even if climate change is a lie (it isn't) enough people believe it. Belief can sometimes be as powerful as truth.

I agree. Or in other words perception is reality. I think climate change is a hoax specifically because the earth is not cooperating with the "science". Even climatologists had to address that issue and they are calling it a pause. So if the climate has paused then why is it such and extreme emergency that we enact such draconian controls over people's lives?

Why? Because we don't have spare planet. I'm not one who thinks the world will be destroyed or even that humans will be wiped out... But we are blessed. We have a country full of natural resources and we sit at the top. I don't think we want things to change dramatically. Even something as minor and b precedented as the dust bowl come again would be devastating.

The first time Fauci said anything about masks he said they are not effective. The very next day he changed his mind or someone changed it for him. I remember his saying this because right around this time I was believing all of the hype about this virus. I was pissed that all of the N95 masks sold out before I even had a chance to buy one. I had one in my garage that has been used a lot when sanding wood. It should have been thrown away.

My wife read an article that if you bought paper shop towels from a hardware store they had the almost the same effectiveness as an N95 mask. I bought some shop towels and my wife made us both masks made from shop towels. We were both very concerned because at first they said that people who were 60 and older were the most susceptible. I was just a couple of months away from my 62nd birthday when they said that. Then later they said 65 or older. My wife has diabetes so her immune system is compromised because of that and we were very concerned about her. She didn't leave the house for 2 or 3 months. I did all of the grocery shopping. Fortunately my employer let me work from home.

Then when all of the dust settled people started questioning everything. We all found out that the survivability rate is 99% and that is when the conservatives when on attack mode. So basically our local and state governments tried to destroy our economy, force people to stay away from everyone else and wear a stupid mask all because of a virus that 99% of the people were NOT going to die from?!?!?!?! It didn't matter how old or young you were the death rate is only 1% from this virus.

The left, who lives in fear anyway, didn't care about those facts and they pushed on and caused businesses, mostly small independent businesses, to fold. Over virtually NOTHING!!!

And still to this day blue states are still not letting up completely. My state still insists on social distancing but that is all. They recommend wearing a mask but they lifted any mandates on it. As a result only about 1% of the people I see when I go to the store are wearing a mask.

Overall case fatality rate is about 2%. It’s higher for older people. And it would have been higher still if our hospital capacity has been overwhelmed and people who needed them hadn’t had ventilators and the like.

Andrew Breitbart, when he was alive, proved that leftist protesters were paid by someone. It might have been Soros but who knows. The money came from somewhere.

Boogaloo what? The Boogaloo Bois are not representative any anyone but themselves.

Nearly every mass shooter held radical leftist ideas. Those who were not radical leftists were Muslims and apolitical psychopaths. Conservatives don't kill people.

"Jewish space lasers"

What???? What is that all about? I have never heard of that.

"Plots to kidnap governors"

Once again...What???? What is that all about? I have never heard of that.

Paid to protest - meh. They considered companies that allowed paid time off to participate in political rallies to be paid...and they are, I suppose.

Money was donated to organizations that then organized protests and made signs... so you could say they funded protests.

So there may be situations where you could argue the point, but it’s isn’t large numbers of people being paid to protest. And those you could argue are being paid are people who choose to be there. I don’t see the difference between the sorts of things brietbart identified and other political rallies and donations. Money was donated to causes and spent.

The boogaloo fall under right wing. Antifa falls left and they fall right.

Conservatives don’t kill people - seriously? So bombings of abortion clinics were left wing?

2019 El Paso Walmart
2018 Pittsburgh synagogue

Take those two and that’s more deaths than has been attributed to BLM protests. I can’t find any mass killings with a left wing leaning.

So I looked up those two shootings. I do remember the El Paso shooting now because that is when Walmart changed their store policy to prevent even conceal carry permitted people from bringing a gun into the store and they stopped selling firearms at that point.

It was the dumbest thing Walmart could have ever done. Walmart painted a huge target (no pun intended unless you found it funny then it was fully intended) on themselves and everyone who shops at a Walmart.

It is a known fact that mass shooters will go out of their way to do their shootings in a gun-free zone because no one will shoot back.

So basically you are following that idiotic line of thinking that says that all conservatives or all Republicans or whatever are white supremacists. That is complete and utter crap. White supremacists are found in every political party. Plus if you believe the crap the left puts out with their Critical Race Theory then every white Democrat is a white supremacist because all white people are white supremacists.

The guy that shot up the Walmart was a psychopath, a nut job but he was NOT a conservative.

The Pittsburgh shooter is also accused of being a Nazi. Nazis are NOT conservatives. They never were and they never will be. Nazis are socialists and have always had far more in common with the Democrat party than they ever did with the Republican party.

This is clearly evident in the antisemitic protests happening in NYC and LA. Those are leftists marching with Palestinians not conservatives. The left's antisemitism showed up during Occupy Wall Street when Jewish synagogues were defaced with antisemitic graffiti.

The Pittsburgh shooter, therefore, was not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination and if anything he was a leftist specifically because he was a Nazi. Not only that he accused Trump of being a "globalist".

El Paso - the guy was concerned democrats were going to gain control of the us by bringing in immigrants.

Nazis called themselves socialists but weren't.

As far as the synagogue shooter, "his posts included criticism of US President Donald Trump for being a "globalist, not a nationalist"[75] and for supposedly being surrounded by and controlled by Jews.[76] Bowers also denounced African Americans with racial slurs and images which are related to lynchings, and he also denounced white women who have relationships with black men.[77] He used his online accounts to post conspiracy theories regarding philanthropist George Soros."

You are still trying to tell me that all white supremacists are conservatives. I saw a Pew Research study several years ago that I can no longer find that rated the racism of the far left, the left the right and the far right. The left, right and far right percentage of racists were all about equal. Somewhere around 7%. However the far left was around 20%. So if you want to find out where the white supremacists are hanging out you won't find them on the right.

"Nazis called themselves socialists but weren't." Hitler was a socialist and was a member of the German Socialist party before leaving it and forming the National Socialist German Workers Party which was still a socialist party. After Hitler got power he didn't always follow his socialist roots because he was a megalomaniac and ruled by whatever whim crossed his mind. So, yes, Hitler didn't operate like a complete socialist but the party he founded was definitely socialist.

The idiot Neo-Nazis running around today are definitely socialists. Everything they believe in matches with socialism and also Marxism.

You can deny it all you want but that does not change the facts.

Your Wikipedia quote (which I also saw) does not make that guy any more conservative than saying Che Guevara was a conservative. Oh and BTW Guevara, Marx and Hitler all hated black people.

Hitler took over the party and then expelled or had people who actually believed in socialism killed. He ran on fear of "Jewish Marxists"
This is history.

And, since I'm not a Marxist, I don't care. It just hurts to see people sprout propoganda instead of actually reading about history and what happened.

Most white supremacists are on the right. It goes with the nationalist racial pride thing. The left is more globalist.

You won't find them on the right... So you think the white supremacists are out supporting BLM, supporting Obama, Kamala Harris, and electing the most racially diverse Congress ever?

Or are they hanging out with the people flying Confederate flags, who think Mexicans come here to take over? 🤔 🧐 Its a mystery.

Hitler killed anyone who got in his way. Hitler was a megalomaniac first and a Marxist socialist second. He killed a lot of his own people. He killed the brown shirts when he was finished with them.

To say that Hitler wasn't a socialist because he killed socialist is like saying Hitler wasn't a man because he killed men.

The platform that gave him that political power was Marxism. And because he made some alterations to what the German socialists believed in they became in opposition to him. Just like when Mussolini make changes to Italian socialism and called it Fascism. The Italian socialists killed Mussolini while Hitler killed the German socialists.

It is NOT propaganda. You essentially get the same results whenever Marxism is applied to a nation. It is a top heavy form of government that is just not sustainable. Eventually it will run out of money and collapse under its own weight. But before that happens the controls on the people have to be tightened. Production quotas are set and then reset. The people become more and more overworked. If they do not meet production quotas they are executed. This is when socialism always follows the path it was intended to follow from the start and becomes communist. Socialism is just the precursor to communism.

People just like Hitler are attracted to Marxism because of the power it gives them. Even if it were possible for a Marxist nation to start off with a benevolent dictator (which has never happened yet) then eventually that person will die or be overthrown by a megalomaniac. This happens in South and Central America almost on a daily basis.

You need to put down Das Kapital and look around because Marxism has never had the rosy history that the proponents promise it to be. It is NOT utopia, it is dystopia. It is 1984.

Talk to people who have lived in those hell holes before you raised your clinched fist in the air in solidarity with the struggling masses, whoever they are.

You just cannot concentrate that much power in the hands of so few people and ever expect anything different. Every government that has ever existed has corrupted. Some started off corrupt and some, like the US, got corrupted. This is exactly why government MUST be limited, powerless and in the control of the people.

That does not happen with Marxism. It promises that all political power is in the hands of the collective but who decides what is best for the collective? It is always the government.

No historian considers Hitler or Musolini to be on the left. They embraced nationalism which is just not what Marxism is about. They consider all workers to be in conflict with the upper class. To have Hitler and Musolini go nationalist and then to leave the upper class in place Ave call them Marxists is insane. Is North Korea a democracy? It's in the full name of the country after all.

I'm not a Marxist. I'm really not. The most you could accuse me of is being a democratic socialist, but I don't even consider myself that. I think it's a viable approaching- the idea that you can have socialism with a strong democracy. But I've said it a lot- no modern government is purely socialist or capitalist. And there aren't because a mix of the two is better.

My intent isn't to defend Marxism, but you are misrepresenting them. Its like when people accused antifa of starting the wildfires - it was just dumb. It isn't their MO. They are mostly anarchists and their focus is on fascists. They are actually for small government. You would find yourself in agreement with most of their philosophy. It's just where you think Marxism is the issue that leads to genocide abd as atrocities, they think it's fascism nationalism. That's why they wear masks: they don't want secret police hunting them down. They are extremists and are thus a concern, but thinking they are somehow part of a government plot or are the brown coats come again just ignores who they are.

"Paid to protest - meh. They considered companies that allowed paid time off to participate in political rallies to be paid...and they are, I suppose."

Breitbart went to several leftist protests and tried to ask some of the protestors at random what they were protesting. Every time could not answer why they were there or even basic questions about the protest. When their handlers saw what was happening they jumped in.

Brietbart has been dead for probably 10 or more years but I doubt anything has changed much. I don't think there were any paid protesters who were part of Antifa or BLM but maybe there were. I don't know and I am not making any claims that there were. I do know that BLM (the organization) has accumulated billions of dollars of wealth through donations and I have no doubt (and I think it has even been proved) that some of those donations came from Soros.

"The boogaloo fall under right wing" Maybe they do but no one on the right is apologizing for them. For the most part they are ignoring them. Just like the rest of the groups the left is focusing on. They can say or do whatever they want because this is a free country and it is none of my business.

"2019 El Paso Walmart
2018 Pittsburgh synagogue"

You're going to have to give me more information than just that. I don't remember either of those shootings.

I have actually stopped paying attention to mass shootings in the last few years but I used to do more research on all of them. The vast majority of them were committed by leftists. That negates your comparison between those two shootings and Antifa/BLM. Not to mention the lives that Antifa/BLM ruined.

Brietbart at protests - that is an old trope. They do out to both liberals and conservatives. You interview a bunch of people and keep the dumbest. The late show does it as do any number of others.

You can Google them if you want. They are two of the biggest mass killings in recent years. Point me to a few leftists shootings, because I don’t think there are any.