conservative gun hypocrisy

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I never said Switzerland had the lowest crime rate. I do say that Hitler never invaded Switzerland in WW2 because their citizens owned guns. And that is also why the Japs didn't try to invade us because as one of their commanders said, "they would be met with a gun behind every blade of grass". Tell me, if the Jews had guns, could they have been so easily rounded up and sent to the furnace? If a few hundred Jewish fighters in Warsaw could hold off the Wehrmacht for a month with a handful of weapons what could six million do?

Tell me, do you honestly believe the politicians pushing for gun control actually give a damn about you, me, or anyone else? Alcoholic beverages kills people and destroys families, yet town after town is becoming wet. If people are not capable of owning guns should they be allowed to drive vehicles? I would rather face a punk with a gun than a crazy driver. I can kill that individual or break him in a multitude of ways. A crazy person behind a steering wheel would be much harder to stop. Just look at the 2016 Nice Truck attack.
This is about the time Manhattan would tell me to f**k my whataboutism.
So much for discussions then. I guess everyone is supposed to blindly go along with the narrative.
Oh, and most of those political leaders pushing for gun control, they also support abortion. So please spare me the part that gun control is meant to "save lives". McDonalds is extremely unhealthy, it causes obesity and weakens one's immunity, nothing is said about that. Why? Health issues is profitable.

Your political party is confusing to me. On one hand you guys say police are the only ones who should own guns. Then after a few incidents you guys say the police have too much power. What do you think will happen if the police and the government have all the weapons? Do you think the police will have any less power at that point? Do you think social media will protect your ass from a totalitarian regime when you speak out against them and they send their police after you to throw you in the gulags or inject you with a bullet of their own? It's ok though, just remember the three ups, show up, keep up, and shut up. And you will be fine. You already seem to be on their side. I don't know why giving up freedoms gives people such a hard on and they support it with a religious fanaticism. But I don't like it. Better men and women have died and suffered grievous bodily injuries to preserve freedom. And you are throwing it away.

the meme implies that guns in switzerland are unregulated, mostly for hobbyists and self protection and wild west. they are anything but.

if you think we should be like switzerland, you'll have to also agree to the socialism that goes along with it. or else crime would REALLY be out of control like it is in free market murica.

Do I think we should be like Switzerland or do I think Switzerland should be like us? Or was I simply pointing out that an armed population is largely left alone in wars? Or is this some more questions that you are not going to answer?
You answered this really quick yesterday, I doubt you had time to read through all of it. If you did you would know I value freedom and therefore strongly oppose oppressive forms of government. The end goal of socialism is communism. I already mentioned gulags in my previous comment. Do I need to go into detail about the killing fields of Cambodia or the Holodomor? All of which was perpetrated against unarmed populations by armed troops. Communism is no good. It's predecessor socialism is no good.

I do not know if Switzerland is socialist or capitalist. Justin knows more about that, take it up with him. I asked you lots of questions in my first comment yet you have ignored them, why? Is it because the answer proves the importance of the Second Amendment? I admit the prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. Communism flourished by trampling the unarmed populaces. Every genocide and holocaust was carried out against unarmed people by the armed state. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those rare circumstances where all other rights have failed. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.

Read both. The US and Switzerland are very different. If you think arming EVERYBODY here is going to stop gun violence, especially considering the mental illness and lack of regulations, you're totally delusional.

We already have background checks. Before I got my CCDW license I had to fill papers out and they checked my records before I bought a gun. It was a little SR9c.
For someone who read my comment through you are doing a mighty good job at taking it wrong. Was I really that unclear? And why do you keep avoiding my questions?
Nowhere did I say everyone should be allowed to own guns. But to ban guns or even certain type of guns from law abiding citizens is wrong, unconstitutional, and oppressive. I support capital punishment, do you think that I believe rapists, for example, should own guns? Perish the thought! Allow me to reiterate a point in my first comment.
If people are not capable of owning guns should they be allowed to drive vehicles? I would rather face a punk with a gun than a crazy driver. I can kill that individual or break him in a multitude of ways. A crazy person behind a steering wheel would be much harder to stop. Just look at the 2016 Nice Truck attack.
YOU are the delusional one if you think people who are unfit to own guns should own or drive vehicles! My little Chevy Cruze Lt weighs over a ton and it is among the smaller of vehicles. Get one going 60-80 mph and you got a vicious murder weapon coming at you. There is a particular road in the the state where I live where the drivers are positively insane. They pass vehicles around corners, up hills, 5 plus vehicles at once. But it's okay because vehicles are not intended for weapon usage.
No but when they are used as a weapon they make for a damn good one. For America to be so overflowing with gun violence, I have never been in a shooting. I have been in a car wreck before. And to reiterate another point in my first comment. Drinking causes many car wrecks as well as some shootings. But I don't see alcohol coming under fire like the gun.

if guns were regulated as much as driving, roads and auto safety, gun violence wouldn't be nearly the problem in america that it is.

Hahaha! Tell that to 210 in Kentucky. And the Lincoln Parkway, they increased the speed on it 10mph because everyone was driving 65 instead of 55. Now they drive 75 instead of 65. I wonder if they will increase it again. They recently made the city wet too. Drinking and increased speed, I wonder what could go wrong.

psychedelics get people off addictive drugs.

Switzerland's socialist government programs controls the mental illness running rampant in many Americans who commit gun violence.

[image deleted] You can't respond to facts listed about your meme....yep, it is official, U R A DUMBASS!

I've inserted the '8 rules of dealing with dumb people' (that’s you) and since you negated rules 3&4 by ‘being’ rules 5&6 I'm moving on to rules 7&8 in dealing with you!
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THE 8 RULES OF DEALING WITH DUMB PEOPLE:
1. Understand that some people are mentally disabled – they don’t have a choice about being stupid so please treat them with kindness
2. Some dumb people are just dumbasses – they are capable of learning but refuse to, do NOT treat them with kindness it just makes them worse
3. Be knowledgeable – dumb people lack knowledge so have your facts together [see rule 5 exception]
4. Ask them for facts – dumb people have a lot of ridiculous ideas that they can't back up; you can sometimes get them to stop by demanding facts that support their bs [see rule 5 exception]
5. Understand that dumb people usually can’t learn – they are often closed minded and facts are their ‘kryptonite’; if you bring up facts they will just start yelling babble to escape
6. Stupid people can be very insecure - so they can’t listen to facts that can threaten their beliefs
7. Avoid controversial topics - If you have to be around dumb people avoid anything that can upset them and make them angry
8. Do not debate with dumbasses - There's absolutely no point in engaging in a debate with a dumb person because they don’t know how to debate/learn; just act like they aren’t there and do not respond to any of their comments

i guess gun violence isn't crime?

[image deleted] -- the meme you’re referencing was posted by 'cartoleo' and stated Switzerland has the lowest CRIME rate in the world, NOT the lowest HOMICIDE rate.
-- If you go to this site [https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/crime-rate-by-country ] it lists the crime rate by country for 2021, if you scroll down you’ll find a list of 131 countries/stats.
-- According to this chart Switzerland doesn’t have the lowest crime rate in the world, but is in the 10 lowest in the world, and is the lowest in western Europe.
--‘cartolea’ didn’t post a source for the meme’s claim; it is possible that in another year (not 2021) Switzerland did have the lowest rate….

Yeah, he's cherry picking. Switzerland doesn't have the lowest crime rate BECAUSE of guns, it's has the lowest crime rate DESPITE guns, because guns are highly REGULATED and ONLY used for national defense, not "self defense".

Switzerland gun laws
https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/switzerland.php
-- Switzerland’s gun laws are less restrictive than other European countries, and from what I read have only tightened up a bit around 2008 & 2011 when they agreed to some EU regs
-- Switzerland citizens can use guns for hunting, target shooting, collecting, militia (store at home or in armory), & home defense
-- To be able to ‘carry’ in public for defense requires a ‘carrying’ license
-- Semi automatic ok, fully automatic not
-- License required primarily for handguns; rifles and semiautomatic long arms exempt from licensing

is that because of high crime? or lack of military?

See chart above...switzerland has the 10th lowest crime rate of 131 countries...and it has a military

10th lowest crime isn't the lowest as the OP claims. And the military is compulsory and issues each person a gun they are required to keep at home, which disproves the OP's insinuation some more.

Read my post again, I stated 10th lowest in 2021, lowest in western europe, and that didn't list source so it is possible that another year was lowest...

the OP said lowest.

What year was he stating? Maybe one year they had the lowest...your meme is still dumb on your part. Sloth- didn't debunk the other meme, you then used it stating it did, so that makes your meme, sloth-, and you dumb!

round and round you go. debunked.

Are you retarded? Sloth listed gun homicide stats not crime stats ..sloth debunked nothing, you posted a meme that is false...delete your flawed lying dumb meme....or keep changing the topic and not taking responsibility for your own misdeeds (your false meme)

you allege it may have been lowest, it's your obligation to prove it.

Wrong again! You stated not lowest not me...so it is your obligation to prove it! Your meme is still a lie regardless! Sloth debunked nothing!

all crimes matter.

aren't gun homicides considered crimes?

Not debunked, your meme is a lie, and ura liar

show me which year LOL

You look it up, or contact who posted the orig meme...your meme is a lie regardless...sloth info didn't debunk

show evidence.

Are you retarded? Sloth listed gun homicide stats not crime stats ..sloth debunked nothing, you posted a meme that is false...delete your flawed lying dumb meme....or keep changing the topic and not taking responsibility for your own misdeeds (your false meme)

'cartolea' stated:
Switzerland
1 in 2 citizens has guns
lowest crime rate in world
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‘cartolea’ never stated that the low crime rate was because of gun ownership

so why does it have the lowest crime rate in the world?

I’d guess that these all play a part:
low unemployment / high income levels / high education levels / high living standard / law abiding citizens
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/switzerland

‘quality of life’ -- Switzerland ranked #5
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

Happiest Countries in the World 2021 - Switzerland ranked #3
https://themysteriousworld.com/10-happiest-countries-in-the-world/
-- Swiss’ average lifespan is around 83.4 years
-- Research has shown that chocolate can make the brain release dopamine. No country does chocolate like Switzerland.
-- Swiss work 35.2 hours per week, on average, according to the Organisation of Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).
-- It is also a country with fantastic landscapes
-- It is famous for its cheese, and people considered it as “king of cheese.”
-- Despite the cheese and chocolate, Switzerland is among the countries with the lowest obesity rate in Europe.

but not socialism?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Switzerland. Switzerland is a semi-direct democratic federal republic.

USA has a lot of mentally ill people with guns who get no treatment thanks to expensive free market insurance, unlike Switzerland.

with socialism :)

Just because they have a few 'socialist' programs doesn't change that it is a capitalist democratic federal republic

no need for such extremes, socialist northern european nations are just fine :)

if USA had those programs, conervatives would call it socialist. so which is it? can't have your cake and eat it to. we either be like switzerland or not.

Venezuela & cuba are socialist states...night and day to the usa & Switzerland...do you want to live in a socialist state???? If yes move to venezuela immediately...lots of people fleeing it so you should have no problem finding a place to live.....check venezuela' s inflation rate over the past few years!

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/capitalist-countries. According to the 2020 Economic Freedom of the World Index, the top 10 capitalist countries (ranked from highest score to lowest):

Hong Kong
Singapore
New Zealand
Switzerland
Australia
United States
Mauritius
Georgia
Canada
Ireland

then the USA should try to be more like Switzerland. Guns AND safety. Right?

Nope...take out some of the wacky leftist democrat states with their really high crime rates and then the usa crime rates overall would be much lower !

per capita, red states have more crime. https://www.google.com/search?q=red+vs+blue+state+crime+per+capita+by+state

he implied it.