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Get over it.  Republicans in office have dropped this.  I can't believe we're even still on this. | What do anti-vaxxers, 
flat earthers, 9/11 truthers, and election fraud claims have in common? No evidence! | image tagged in memes,leonardo dicaprio wolf of wall street | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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1 up, 4y,
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Plenty of evidence that’s why Dems are going crazy at requiring ids to vote, no cheat, no win.
0 ups, 4y,
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I guess it’s harder to prove voter fraud if you can’t identify the voter. As to election fraud there were quite a few cases with evidence and it is known that media, social media and the AFL CIO illegally interceded on behalf of Biden to control and censor facts and information.
0 ups, 4y,
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Not only that but the Governors, Lower Courts, State Supreme Courts, the Supreme Court, Congress, the Vice President... the President. They were all in on it!

Wait...
0 ups, 4y,
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We will never know since we don’t investigate it. We do know that the “cabal” boasted that they worked to “ensure the proper outcome” by controlling and censoring information. They were proud of it.
1 up, 4y,
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Why aren't Republicans investigating it?

Have they rolled over and showed their bellies to this so-called "cabal"?

Why even continue to vote for these cowardly Republicans that don't care that their representatives have been duped?

These questions only lead to one line of thinking.

Why vote at all?

Which will lead to an inevitable outcome.

Democrats gaining more seats in 2021, 2022, and 2023.

It's time to stop lying to each other.

The consequences could be politically disastrous.
0 ups, 4y,
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At some point you focus on the next one. Like a team that lost the big game you prepare for next season. You study what went wrong and fix it. That’s why Democrats don’t want to fix it.
0 ups, 4y,
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That is an apt analogy that to which I will concede. Nevertheless, it is not a guarantee either.
nor is it proof that voter fraud had occurred.
0 ups, 4y,
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It is what it is. You’ll never convince me there wasn’t. Nothing is guaranteed ever except death and taxes.
0 ups, 4y,
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That is a very poor way to judge facts. I'm relieved you're not part of our judicial or law enforcement system. In America, we believe in innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.
0 ups, 4y
That’s not how lefties see it. You’re guilty upon accusation. See Brett Kavanaugh, Donald Trump, Matt Garth and Derek Chauvin comes to mind right now. There is plenty of evidence of election tampering and potential outright fraud that went i investigated for whatever reasons. OJ wasn’t found guilty but he is. Sometimes justice is not served immediately. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
0 ups, 4y,
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You having your head up your ass does not mean there’s no evidence.
1 up, 4y,
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Please, provide it then.
0 ups, 4y,
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https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=charged+with+voter+fraud+2020
0 ups, 4y,
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That isn’t evidence of mass fraud in the 2020 general election.

That is results that contain numerous charges for the 2020 general election, primary election, and past elections. Not just the 2020 election despite your instruction of including 2020 because people were arrested in 2020 for past election frauds.

I’m not claiming there was no fraud. I would appreciate it if you not misinterpret my argument if you intend to prove your point.
0 ups, 4y,
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Nice goal post move. No evidence of fraud would mean no cases of fraud have been found.
0 ups, 4y,
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It’s not a goal post move.

I never claimed no evidence of fraud. I’m talking about the claims that specifically have no evidence.

Nice try tho!

I don’t see you overly correcting these people who continue to claim the election was stolen with debunked information. So let’s not split hairs over it.
0 ups, 4y,
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"no evidence" means no evidence. But thanks for making your argument circular and thus invalid.
0 ups, 4y,
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Yes, there was no evidence of massive voter fraud. And if you focused your efforts against those yahoos who are deserving of scrutinization instead people who are trying to have honest debates then we still wouldn’t be talking about this five months later.
0 ups, 4y,
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But you are not debating honestly, as per the goal post move and circular reasoning.
0 ups, 4y,
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We’re not debating at all.
0 ups, 4y
So you don't know the definition of debating then.
0 ups, 4y,
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Why has no contested state conducted an actual audit of the vote? A signature match, chain of custody audit? Why were the signature match rejections more than an order of magnitude lower in these states than usual?

There’s a lot more to talk about, but you’re dogmatically certain so it hardly seems worth it.
1 up, 4y,
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“Why has no contested state conducted an actual audit of the vote?”

They have? First state on my list was Arizona who has conducted several audits and none of the people calling for independent audits have been satisfied. Arizona’s Republican Senate President Karen Fenn has been trying to get an independent audit going but has been met with roadblocks which she stipulates is the state legislature, which is run by Republicans, is not cooperating with her. Likely because they see her actions as redundant and expensive to continue Pershing rather than hiding something.

“A signature match, chain of custody audit?”

This... I could not find but doesn’t mean they haven’t or that such an audit is reasonable. Likely due to what is related in my next answer to your next question.

“Why were the signature match rejections more than an order of magnitude lower in these states than usual?”

They weren’t. In Georgia; the November 2016, 580 absentee ballots were rejected for missing or non-matching signatures out of 246,621 absentee ballots cast. In 2018, 454 absentee ballots were rejected for missing or non-matching signatures out of 284,393 absentee ballots cast. 2,011 absentee ballots were rejected in the November 2020 election for missing or non-matching signatures out of 1,322,529 absentee ballots cast. The rejection rate for absentee ballots was lower in the general election than it was in the primary election; but not was lower in rate between past general elections.

https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/number_of_absentee_ballots_rejected_for_signature_issues_in_the_2020_election_increased_350_from_2018

I am not dogmatically certain. I am hugely skeptical of claims already debunked by experts and officials.
0 ups, 4y,
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"This... I could not find but doesn’t mean they haven’t or that such an audit is reasonable. "

Then it's not an audit, and shut the Hell up.
0 ups, 4y
But if I shut the Hell up, as you would say; you’d still be asking that:

“Why were the signature match rejections more than an order of magnitude lower in these states than usual?”

Which I did answer. Or are you so unsatisfied with that answer simply because I couldn’t find that the audits that have been conducted, and they have because every election is audited, but perhaps not audited with a chain of custody, signature match; as again I didn’t find evidence that they had been, had not been, or that audits such as these are even normally conducted with the amount of abnormalities, if any, that occur or have even been audited in this capacity in past elections enough to discourage you from listening to me? Which judging by your precious content it is reasonable for me to assume you have. Just because you didn’t like my answer.

Furthermore, your suspicions alone (or rather your shared suspicions with equally ignorant people) are not evidence that there was massive voter fraud in the 2020 election.

That is quite a response for someone who claims I have my head up my own ass with my dogmatic certainty. Obviously, I’m not dogmatically certain of every aspect of your questions. Maybe your suspicions are valid. Maybe they aren’t. The only thing I’m certain of, though not dogmatically, is they aren’t proof.
0 ups, 4y,
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"debunked by experts and officials."

Translation: "I am incapable of independent thought and blindly accept what is told me by authorities."
1 up, 4y,
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Should I then blindly accept your suspicions as proof?

Do you have a problem with authority?

Or do you only have a problem with authority when they tell you something you don’t like?
0 ups, 4y,
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No, you should try to find good answers to important & relevant questions. But you don’t. TV man tells you election good, you say “Election good.” That’s as far as your “thought” processes evidently go. What an NPC.
0 ups, 4y,
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Ad homenims do not make your argument more convincing.
0 ups, 4y
Perhaps not, but it's fun. And frankly, I don't expect to convince you anymore than I expect to persuade a rock . . . for much the same reason.
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